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[Paphitis]

So then I see you have put yourselves in the same sack as "The Republic of Hatay", which was a step before being given to Turkey by the French. Just the same with you guys I suppose who liked to see the RoC as a step to ENOSIS.

No wonder you could not pass your exams as you fail to recognize your inherent hypocrisy.

How are your celebrations going? Do you enjoy celebrating on the graves of 6000 victims and with such disregard to 200,000 who have been ethnically cleansed from their homes?

[umit07]

Well people aren't exactly running around the streets in joy. To you the 20 th of July only means what you stated above. For us it is a symbol of being reborn after the failed bogus Republic.

[umit07]

What I meant with the Hatay thing is that they were both "banana republics" .

[GreekForumer]

So then I see you have put yourselves in the same sack as "The Republic of Hatay", which was a step before being given to Turkey by the French. Just the same with you guys I suppose who liked to see the RoC as a step to ENOSIS.

That's not the response I expected umit07. You asked the question, you got an answer. It's appears you have no problem with a 50% Turkish ENOSIS. I thought you would be horrified.

[Paphitis]

Well people aren't exactly running around the streets in joy. To you the 20 th of July only means what you stated above. For us it is a symbol of being reborn after the failed bogus Republic.

Now why do you consider Cyprus a bogus republic?

[GreekForumer]

What I meant with the Hatay thing is that they were both "banana republics" .

Banana Republic or not, the future of this territory should have been the legitimate decision of the inhabitants.

[umit07]

So then I see you have put yourselves in the same sack as "The Republic of Hatay", which was a step before being given to Turkey by the French. Just the same with you guys I suppose who liked to see the RoC as a step to ENOSIS.

That's not the response I expected umit07. You asked the question, you got an answer. It's appears you have no problem with a 50% Turkish ENOSIS. I thought you would be horrified.

Well GF the Republic you talk about only lasted a year like you stated. I find it comical that you compare yourselves with the Republic of Hatay.

[GreekForumer]

Well GF the Republic you talk about only lasted a year like you stated. I find it comical that you compare yourselves with the Republic of Hatay.

And what was that territory before that year ?
It was part of the Mandate of Syria (1923). It was "detached" from the Mandate and made into a republic, dodgy electoral tricks ensured a Turkish "majority" and a government composed only of Turks "gifted" it to Turkey.

The only comparison made was this...
It is ACCEPTABLE for a territory comprising of 50% Turks ( 1 to 1 ) to have ENOSIS with the Motherland.
It is UNACCEPTABLE. for a territory comprising of 80% Greeks ( 4 to 1 ) to have ENOSIS with the Motherland.

How is that comparison comical for you? You do or don't believe the political direction of a territory should be decided by democratic means, ie "by the people" ? How should these things be decided ?

[umit07]

Well GF the Republic you talk about only lasted a year like you stated. I find it comical that you compare yourselves with the Republic of Hatay.

And what was that territory before that year ?
It was part of the Mandate of Syria (1923). It was "detached" from the Mandate and made into a republic, dodgy electoral tricks ensured a Turkish "majority" and a government composed only of Turks "gifted" it to Turkey.

The only comparison made was this...
It is ACCEPTABLE for a territory comprising of 50% Turks ( 1 to 1 ) to have ENOSIS with the Motherland.
It is UNACCEPTABLE. for a territory comprising of 80% Greeks ( 4 to 1 ) to have ENOSIS with the Motherland.

How is that comparison comical for you? You do or don't believe the political direction of a territory should be decided by democratic means, ie "by the people" ? How should these things be decided ?

I have never said that the GC's wanting ENOSIS was illegitimate! Neither do I concider the TC struggle to counter ENOSIS illegitimate. You chose to gamble and roled the dice . After your failed attempt we used force to establish a new country up North. It's that simple.

[umit07]

Well people aren't exactly running around the streets in joy. To you the 20 th of July only means what you stated above. For us it is a symbol of being reborn after the failed bogus Republic.

Now why do you consider Cyprus a bogus republic?

As I said before you sing the Greek national anthem and can't even stop flying the Greek flag infront of official buildings .