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Turkey barring Turkish Cypriots from travelling with Cyprus

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Postby halil » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:37 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
halil wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Does this mean that TCs could still (if they wished) enter Turkey by showing a RoC passport, but may not exit Turkey again on this passport to travel to a third country? That is pretty weird.


No Tim ,

TC's used to travel Turkey by İD (TRNC) or TRNC passports .From now on only we can travel to Turkey by TRNC passports .

İf you want to travel rest of the world . First u can get TRNC passport than you can apply to get Turkish Passport from the Turkish embassy in Nicosia .
With this Turkish Passport you can apply to get visa from other countries embassies .

What the TC's were doing . They were travelling to Turkey by their own TRNC İD's without problem . where they were landing end they were showing the ROC İD's or passports . This was saving them money for visas and all the formalities .

İ am agree with İceman , this one of the Soyer's government tricks to get money from us .

As long as Cyprus problem goes on we can have these kind of things .
Tim we had worse days than this before .


Yes, but if the following statement from the original article is true:

"Greek Cypriots have been free to travel to and from Turkey without restriction since 2003."

This means that the Republic of Turkey now accepts RoC passports. So in theory (even if they are unlikely to do so) could TCs enter Turkey on their RoC passports?


Tim ,

While ago i got the truth ,

To travel abroad TC's can use Passports only . Not İdentifacation cards are allowed .

TC's have to travel abroad by passports .

These passports can be ROC , TRNC or Republic of Turkey .
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Postby iceman » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:12 pm

Tim Drayton wrote: if the following statement from the original article is true:

"Greek Cypriots have been free to travel to and from Turkey without restriction since 2003."

This means that the Republic of Turkey now accepts RoC passports. So in theory (even if they are unlikely to do so) could TCs enter Turkey on their RoC passports?


Yes Tim...Republic of Turkey now accepts RoC passports as long as the passport holder has a christian name.. :wink:
Turkish Cypriots are not allowed to travel to/from Turkey with a ROC passport unless they have a TRNC passport...ROC passport is accepted by airlines and Turkish immigration for satisfying visa requirements of the destination countries.
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:23 pm

So much for non recognition!
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:41 pm

Yes Tim...Republic of Turkey now accepts RoC passports as long as the passport holder has a christian name..


So that probably means that TCs that live in the free areas and have nothing to do with the "trnc" will now not be allowed to travel to Turkey. Also is it always clear when a name is Turkish, or other Muslim citizens of Republic of Cyprus could be affected by this as well?

Personally I doubt this move has anything to do with collecting money. For Turkey of 70 million people collecting some Euros from 100 thousand people every 5 years is really a drop in the ocean. I think the move is political because they see that more and more TCs use RoC passports and they are trying to "balance" this with forcing them to have "trnc" passports as well.
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Postby halil » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:55 pm

Pirates ,
Every TC has got TRNC passport also most of the TC's has got Republic of Turkey's passports .

How the TC's were travelling to other countries after 74 .?.... BY getting Republic of Turkey's Passports .

Since 2003 TC's are obtained ROC passport . Why they gets them to get free travelling benefits for EU countries .

Rest of the countries ROC passports needs Visa as well also visa money .

For TC's to travel USA ,TC's does not have to have Turkey's passport by Showing TRNC passport they give you Visa. than you can travel to USA very lately i travelled to USA .
visa fee is 100 US dollar .
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:16 pm

Agios Ionas wrote:So TC's are effectively being held as POWs by the Turks and the 'TRNC' unless they 'pay up'? What's next? Penalties for those who choose to visit the RoC? Nice 'government' you have up there... and nice 'brothers' you got in Turkey as well.

Maybe now you'll see that you're victims of the Pan-Turkism and nothing but pawns in a bigger game? Your safety back in 1974 was just an excuse for Turkey to do something they had planned for a long time.

Maybe it's time to make a choice whether you want to be secondary citizens being dominated by mainland Turks and their cronies or choose to be free Cypriots being embraced by the EU.

Seriously... I can't understand why someone would keep supporting a 'government' who seem to have no other goal than to rip you off and leave you high and dry.

You'd be better off betting your money on EU and the GC's because most of us definitely want you to kick out the Turks, join us, settle the differences and property issues and get on with our lives hand in hand.



And we still prefer this to living with GCs, says more about you than us me thinks. :wink:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:24 pm

iceman wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote: if the following statement from the original article is true:

"Greek Cypriots have been free to travel to and from Turkey without restriction since 2003."

This means that the Republic of Turkey now accepts RoC passports. So in theory (even if they are unlikely to do so) could TCs enter Turkey on their RoC passports?


Yes Tim...Republic of Turkey now accepts RoC passports as long as the passport holder has a christian name.. :wink:
Turkish Cypriots are not allowed to travel to/from Turkey with a ROC passport unless they have a TRNC passport...ROC passport is accepted by airlines and Turkish immigration for satisfying visa requirements of the destination countries.


I suppose on RoC passports it must also state whether the holder is a Greek Cypriot or a Turkish Cypriot. RoC identity cards provide this information, don't they? On mine it reads "Alien".
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:45 pm

It is unconstitutional for Greek Cypriots to be granted entry to Turkey with RoC passports and for Turkish Cypriots to be denied entry with the same passports. This affair has probably opened a huge can of worms.

Article 10 of the Turkish constitution reads:

"All individuals are equal without any discrimination before the law, irrespective of language, race, colour, sex, political opinion, philosophical belief, religion and sect, or any such considerations.

No privilege shall be granted to any individual, family, group or class.

State organs and administrative authorities shall act in compliance with the principle of equality before the law in all their proceedings."
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Postby pantheman » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:01 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:It is unconstitutional for Greek Cypriots to be granted entry to Turkey with RoC passports and for Turkish Cypriots to be denied entry with the same passports. This affair has probably opened a huge can of worms.

Article 10 of the Turkish constitution reads:

"All individuals are equal without any discrimination before the law, irrespective of language, race, colour, sex, political opinion, philosophical belief, religion and sect, or any such considerations.

No privilege shall be granted to any individual, family, group or class.

State organs and administrative authorities shall act in compliance with the principle of equality before the law in all their proceedings."



:lol: :lol: :lol: Welcome to modern Turkey Tim, really. are you that surprised??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

You, I and everyone else knows Turkey does not give a hoot about any law, least of all its own, so don't let this worry you, it is standard barbarian practice. After all in Kiks own words, "If you can't fuck a friend , who can you fuck..."

Have a nice day, thank you.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:25 pm

pantheman wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:It is unconstitutional for Greek Cypriots to be granted entry to Turkey with RoC passports and for Turkish Cypriots to be denied entry with the same passports. This affair has probably opened a huge can of worms.

Article 10 of the Turkish constitution reads:

"All individuals are equal without any discrimination before the law, irrespective of language, race, colour, sex, political opinion, philosophical belief, religion and sect, or any such considerations.

No privilege shall be granted to any individual, family, group or class.

State organs and administrative authorities shall act in compliance with the principle of equality before the law in all their proceedings."



:lol: :lol: :lol: Welcome to modern Turkey Tim, really. are you that surprised??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

You, I and everyone else knows Turkey does not give a hoot about any law, least of all its own, so don't let this worry you, it is standard barbarian practice. After all in Kiks own words, "If you can't fuck a friend , who can you fuck..."

Have a nice day, thank you.


Sorry, I will have to beg to differ with you there. I lived in Turkey for 12 years, and ran a business there for some time. I translate Turkish legal documents for a living these days. In my opinion, the rule of law works as well in Turkey as it does elsewhere.
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