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The north is under occupation! By Basaran Duzgun

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby metecyp » Fri May 06, 2005 12:30 am

salonica wrote:but that has nothing to do with the fact that they are not willing to accept anything less than their political rights in full

Do they understand what these are though? Do they know what bicommunal bizonal federation means? Or political equality? Or do they simply yell what they hear from others: "Return of all refugees, return of Turkish troops, return of settlers!"? Well, it would be nice to see them cooperate with their fellow TCs for a better future for Cyprus.
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Postby salonica » Fri May 06, 2005 12:39 am

I tend to agree with them so let me say that they would co-operate if they would see signs of co-operation. they are not many so don't expect them to go along with anything that just suits Ankara and not the TC

As said before, the GC cannot accept anything that degrades their votes.
I am afraid that you don't want a solution that unifies Cyprus. your aim is to legitimaze your pseudo-state as it was done with the A plan.

There is only one country where its people can live and prosper together.

You are playing Ankaras game, otherwise I cannot explain how s/e could reject living in its own country free with no restrictions in a much healthier and wealthier environment where every political right will apply.

I am repeating myself, you are tottally manipulated by Turkey.
I trust the TC that they don't want that
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Postby uzan » Fri May 06, 2005 12:42 am

garbitsch wrote:Nah, they are not occupationists. A person who just enter to another country is not necessarily an occupationist. These are usually Kurds from East Anatolia, who go to Mersin and then take a ferry to N.Cyprus. I wonder if you still adore them mic :D




I would like to know why this killing stard since gates open and is it true some kurdish people live in south and organize this killings in north.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 06, 2005 12:44 am

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I cannot explain how s/e could reject living in its own country free with no restrictions in a much healthier and wealthier environment where every political right will apply.


Simple to say but how do you overcome our concerns of trust, protection and not becoming a minority in greek cypriot dominated state????
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Postby salonica » Fri May 06, 2005 12:52 am

Hi Viewpoint

well these are your fears and in my opinion they cannot justify a division of a country. I have said before that if you beleive that GC are not to be trusted (I really want to know in what respect?) there is always EU, where it can protects NUMERICAL MINORITIES, that is of course if the GC go crazy and start shooting every TC they see on the street.


Nevertheless, simply because of your <fears> I know that GC are not willing to abandon not even a single thing from their rights, and as aforementioned not willing to accept division of their country.

You will have EVERY political right like the GC, but don't expect anything else. it is not democratic and it is not just
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 06, 2005 12:54 am

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Nevertheless, simply because of your <fears>


This answers my question.
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Postby salonica » Fri May 06, 2005 12:56 am

glad I could help
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Postby uzan » Fri May 06, 2005 1:02 am

[quote="salonica"]Hi Viewpoint

well these are your fears and in my opinion they cannot justify a division of a country. I have said before that if you beleive that GC are not to be trusted (I really want to know in what respect?) there is always EU, where it can protects NUMERICAL MINORITIES, that is of course if the GC go crazy and start shooting every TC they see on the street.

Where is EU,Why cant protects Turkish in selanik and there going to protects us.We are not same TC you left 31 years ago you must know that.WE cant trust gc.You want to know in what respect, I can tell you They can start to shoot us again,and they can broke their promise again like they did 1963
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Postby salonica » Fri May 06, 2005 1:06 am

chill man

I am from Salonica and let me tell you that there is no Turkish community there. There are probably a few Turks, yet I have never met one.

It is because of your beleives and <fears> that a solution is not going to come htrough that door. But you should know that the GC laugh with your beleives.
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Postby uzan » Fri May 06, 2005 1:15 am

salonica wrote:chill man

I am from Salonica and let me tell you that there is no Turkish community there. There are probably a few Turks, yet I have never met one.

It is because of your beleives and <fears> that a solution is not going to come htrough that door. But you should know that the GC laugh with your beleives.


Because you forced them to change their name,and there is Turkish community there I know because my next door neigbourne in hobart from there.What solution?
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