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Where is New Justiniana? ....

Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:24 pm

The full title of the head of the Cyprus Orthodox Church is:

The Beautified Archbishop of New Justiniana and All Cyprus Chrysostomus II ....

Where is New Justiniana?

Are we New Justinianans or just Cypriots? Why not just Justinians, why Justinianans? :? ... and New? ... where is Old Justiniana? :?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:45 pm

Beautified - what he has visited a beauty salon?

Shouldn't that be beatified?
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Postby Agios Ionas » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:53 pm

I Googled some and found the following information:

Sivrihisar is a small town in Turkey located at main route leading from central Anatolia to the Aegean and the Mediterranean. Sivrihisar was known as Justinianapolis under the Byzantines.

If Justianapolis is 'Old Justiniana'... is Sivrihisar 'New Justiniana'? I also found a French wikipedia entry mentioning Sousse in Tunisia as being the Byzantine Justinianapolis. Confusing to say the least... :/
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Postby 74LB » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:53 pm

Don't quote me on this, but a few ühhülğ searches leads me to believe the answer to your question resides in.........wait for it......TÜRKİYE

......After the conquest of Cyprus by the Arabs, 632-647, the Christian population with its bishops emigrated to the mainland. Justinian II built for them, near the Hellespont, a city which he called Nea Justinianopolis; their archbishop enjoyed there the rights he had in Cyprus, besides exercising jurisdiction over the surrounding country (Quinisext Council, can. xxxix, 692). After the death of Justinian II the Cypriotes returned to their island with their hierarchy.......


http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04589a.htm
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:09 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Beautified - what he has visited a beauty salon?

Shouldn't that be beatified?


It was precisely that very word which alerted me and then made me wonder why Justiniana instead of Justinian ....

MOSCOW, July 15 (Itar-Tass) - The head of the Cyprus Orthodox Church, Beautified Archbishop of New Justiniana and All Cyprus Chrysostomus II begins his visit to the Russian Orthodox Church on Tuesday. The visit will continue through July 20.

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.htm ... &PageNum=0
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Postby kurupetos » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:09 pm

74LB wrote:Don't quote me on this, but a few ühhülğ searches leads me to believe the answer to your question resides in.........wait for it......TÜRKİYE

......After the conquest of Cyprus by the Arabs, 632-647, the Christian population with its bishops emigrated to the mainland. Justinian II built for them, near the Hellespont, a city which he called Nea Justinianopolis; their archbishop enjoyed there the rights he had in Cyprus, besides exercising jurisdiction over the surrounding country (Quinisext Council, can. xxxix, 692). After the death of Justinian II the Cypriotes returned to their island with their hierarchy.......


http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04589a.htm


It wasn't Turkiye at that time plonker! :twisted:
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Postby CBBB » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:12 pm

Ah, so we invaded them first!
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:17 pm

74LB wrote:Don't quote me on this, but a few ühhülğ searches leads me to believe the answer to your question resides in.........wait for it......TÜRKİYE

......After the conquest of Cyprus by the Arabs, 632-647, the Christian population with its bishops emigrated to the mainland. Justinian II built for them, near the Hellespont, a city which he called Nea Justinianopolis; their archbishop enjoyed there the rights he had in Cyprus, besides exercising jurisdiction over the surrounding country (Quinisext Council, can. xxxix, 692). After the death of Justinian II the Cypriotes returned to their island with their hierarchy.......


http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04589a.htm


Yes that is in the Hellespont area I think :? But why Justiniana now?

But don't look so horrified .. did you not know that the area presently labelled Turkey originally belonged to Ellada ... and may I say roll on the day ... :wink:
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Postby 74LB » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:20 pm

kurupetos wrote:
74LB wrote:Don't quote me on this, but a few ühhülğ searches leads me to believe the answer to your question resides in.........wait for it......TÜRKİYE

......After the conquest of Cyprus by the Arabs, 632-647, the Christian population with its bishops emigrated to the mainland. Justinian II built for them, near the Hellespont, a city which he called Nea Justinianopolis; their archbishop enjoyed there the rights he had in Cyprus, besides exercising jurisdiction over the surrounding country (Quinisext Council, can. xxxix, 692). After the death of Justinian II the Cypriotes returned to their island with their hierarchy.......


http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04589a.htm


It wasn't Turkiye at that time plonker! :twisted:


You are of course correct....but that doesn't stop everything that took place before TÜRKİYE was founded being blamed on her !

I do hope all others take note of this :wink:
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Postby tessintrnc » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:20 pm

Does the Greek Orthodox church have Nuns/convents? ı have visited a few monastaries but never seen a Nunnery.
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