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Postby CBBB » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:22 pm

Ask Dopey about the dwarf nun he knows.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:37 pm

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74LB wrote:Don't quote me on this, but a few ühhülğ searches leads me to believe the answer to your question resides in.........wait for it......TÜRKİYE

......After the conquest of Cyprus by the Arabs, 632-647, the Christian population with its bishops emigrated to the mainland. Justinian II built for them, near the Hellespont, a city which he called Nea Justinianopolis; their archbishop enjoyed there the rights he had in Cyprus, besides exercising jurisdiction over the surrounding country (Quinisext Council, can. xxxix, 692). After the death of Justinian II the Cypriotes returned to their island with their hierarchy.......


http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04589a.htm


It wasn't Turkiye at that time plonker! :twisted:


You are of course correct....but that doesn't stop everything that took place before TÜRKİYE was founded being blamed on her !

I do hope all others take note of this :wink:


Is the blame you are referring to regarding the Ottomans? :roll:

Then please understand prior to the Ottomans was thousands of years of Hellenic history which has nothing to do with either ...

When Turkey-Ottoman times are discussed it only spans for a few Centuries ....
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Postby Filitsa » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:15 pm

tessintrnc wrote:Does the Greek Orthodox church have Nuns/convents? ı have visited a few monastaries but never seen a Nunnery.


Indeed it does. The following link is about a cloister right here in the U.S.A.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:22 pm

Agios Ionas wrote:I Googled some and found the following information:

Sivrihisar is a small town in Turkey located at main route leading from central Anatolia to the Aegean and the Mediterranean. Sivrihisar was known as Justinianapolis under the Byzantines.

If Justianapolis is 'Old Justiniana'... is Sivrihisar 'New Justiniana'? I also found a French wikipedia entry mentioning Sousse in Tunisia as being the Byzantine Justinianapolis. Confusing to say the least... :/



A number of cities were founded after great Emperors and leaders. There are a number named after Alexander the Great, Hadrian and Justinian. Dont be surprised if we come accross an 'Oracopolis'. :lol:
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Postby tessintrnc » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:26 pm

Filitsa wrote:
tessintrnc wrote:Does the Greek Orthodox church have Nuns/convents? ı have visited a few monastaries but never seen a Nunnery.


Indeed it does. The following link is about a cloister right here in the U.S.A.



Thank you Filitsa, but theres no link? I am interested because my Aunty was a Nun (RIP), and I wanted to be one as well because she had a lovely pale blue habit and a long veil. That changed eventually to a knee length dress and short veil - which I didn't like so much!!! Never mind the vocation, just gimee the dress!!!!!!!
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Postby Filitsa » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:27 pm

Oracle wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Beautified - what he has visited a beauty salon?

Shouldn't that be beatified?


It was precisely that very word which alerted me and then made me wonder why Justiniana instead of Justinian ....

MOSCOW, July 15 (Itar-Tass) - The head of the Cyprus Orthodox Church, Beautified Archbishop of New Justiniana and All Cyprus Chrysostomus II begins his visit to the Russian Orthodox Church on Tuesday. The visit will continue through July 20.

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.htm ... &PageNum=0


My guess is that "Beautified" is a typographical error. The reason for Justiniana as opposed to Justinian is because geographical areas, whether they were cities, states, or regions, were named in the feminine gender.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:33 pm

Filitsa wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Beautified - what he has visited a beauty salon?

Shouldn't that be beatified?


It was precisely that very word which alerted me and then made me wonder why Justiniana instead of Justinian ....

MOSCOW, July 15 (Itar-Tass) - The head of the Cyprus Orthodox Church, Beautified Archbishop of New Justiniana and All Cyprus Chrysostomus II begins his visit to the Russian Orthodox Church on Tuesday. The visit will continue through July 20.

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.htm ... &PageNum=0


My guess is that "Beautified" is a typographical error. The reason for Justiniana as opposed to Justinian is because geographical areas, whether they were cities, states, or regions, were named in the feminine gender.



Hmmm......Indeed an expert on genders. :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:33 pm

Filitsa wrote:
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Tim Drayton wrote:Beautified - what he has visited a beauty salon?

Shouldn't that be beatified?


It was precisely that very word which alerted me and then made me wonder why Justiniana instead of Justinian ....

MOSCOW, July 15 (Itar-Tass) - The head of the Cyprus Orthodox Church, Beautified Archbishop of New Justiniana and All Cyprus Chrysostomus II begins his visit to the Russian Orthodox Church on Tuesday. The visit will continue through July 20.

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.htm ... &PageNum=0


My guess is that "Beautified" is a typographical error. The reason for Justiniana as opposed to Justinian is because geographical areas, whether they were cities, states, or regions, were named in the feminine gender.


I agree, a typo ... but it caught my attention and after I stopped laughing I wondered about New Justiniana .... Which I rather like :D

.... reminds me of Narnia :lol:

Anyway I have not found anything satisfactory so far, about this Neo-legendary if not mythical place ....
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Postby Filitsa » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:40 pm

Oracle wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Beautified - what he has visited a beauty salon?

Shouldn't that be beatified?


It was precisely that very word which alerted me and then made me wonder why Justiniana instead of Justinian ....

MOSCOW, July 15 (Itar-Tass) - The head of the Cyprus Orthodox Church, Beautified Archbishop of New Justiniana and All Cyprus Chrysostomus II begins his visit to the Russian Orthodox Church on Tuesday. The visit will continue through July 20.

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.htm ... &PageNum=0


My guess is that "Beautified" is a typographical error. The reason for Justiniana as opposed to Justinian is because geographical areas, whether they were cities, states, or regions, were named in the feminine gender.


I agree, a typo ... but it caught my attention and after I stopped laughing I wondered about New Justiniana .... Which I rather like :D

.... reminds me of Narnia :lol:

Anyway I have not found anything satisfactory so far, about this Neo-legendary if not mythical place ....


Probably because the Church named the place. My guess: it was an archdiocesan seed that was named for Justinian perhaps peri-Byzantium.
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Postby Filitsa » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:42 pm

tessintrnc wrote:
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tessintrnc wrote:Does the Greek Orthodox church have Nuns/convents? ı have visited a few monastaries but never seen a Nunnery.


Indeed it does. The following link is about a cloister right here in the U.S.A.



Thank you Filitsa, but theres no link? I am interested because my Aunty was a Nun (RIP), and I wanted to be one as well because she had a lovely pale blue habit and a long veil. That changed eventually to a knee length dress and short veil - which I didn't like so much!!! Never mind the vocation, just gimee the dress!!!!!!!


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http://www.nwpr.org/07/HomepageArticles ... spx?n=4014
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