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Postby Maynard23 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:45 pm

Young men who believe in packs of lies and are ready to kill on account of them.
When they come out, or are thrown out, they try to buy houses and sell them for a profit before they have paid for them. Then they start whingeing when somebody gives them a right hander for being saucy and so on.
They usually end up sleeping rough, at least they are in the gutters, where they belong. IMHO (Well I'll be dogged !) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:48 pm

Well that is mighty big of you Richard dear :wink: ... so let's see if we can't turn this into a profitable, learning-from, kind-of-thread :D ....

There is a lot of evidence to suggest career-Soldiers are more likely to rape and abuse ... discuss!
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Postby RichardB » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:00 am

Oracle wrote:Well that is mighty big of you Richard dear :wink: ... so let's see if we can't turn this into a profitable, learning-from, kind-of-thread :D ....

There is a lot of evidence to suggest career-Soldiers are more likely to rape and abuse ... discuss!


If you mean the sexual rape of another person

In all honesty O never came across this situation in my time in the forces

It certainly wasn't a factor in any unit I served with

Now

I am sure for that you are speaking metaphorically and are not insinuating the rape of an individual but more the rape and abuse of a nation or culture well IMHO that is another matter which again in all honesty I would rather answer when I havn't had the 1 over the 8 so to speak... but I will when I have had a think by tommorrow :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:05 am

RichardB wrote:
Oracle wrote:Well that is mighty big of you Richard dear :wink: ... so let's see if we can't turn this into a profitable, learning-from, kind-of-thread :D ....

There is a lot of evidence to suggest career-Soldiers are more likely to rape and abuse ... discuss!


If you mean the sexual rape of another person

In all honesty O never came across this situation in my time in the forces

It certainly wasn't a factor in any unit I served with

Now

I am sure for that you are speaking metaphorically and are not insinuating the rape of an individual but more the rape and abuse of a nation or culture well IMHO that is another matter which again in all honesty I would rather answer when I havn't had the 1 over the 8 so to speak... but I will when I have had a think by tommorrow :wink:


OK ... in order to avoid nightmares .. I will tackle the details of the above statement (who wrote that :roll: ) ... tomorrow too ..

Kalinhta from us .. I mean me! :wink:
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Postby RichardB » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:07 am

Kalinixtasas ..Speak avrio :wink:
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Re: What Kind of People Become Soldiers? ....

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:37 am

Oracle wrote:Sick, deranged killers or genuine do-gooders :roll:

What kind of person would volunteer and make a career of being a killing-machine :shock: ..... I mean soldier? :D


I volunteered.

I did not noticed any individual that is a deranged psycho. Australian Armed Forces have a tendency to weed out any unstable persons.

But as Richard said, you may be talking metaphorically. Australian soldiers are not deranged killers. But I guess you may wish to debate that since our involvement in numerous conflicts in the last few years.

In Australia, defence is considered an extremely excellent and fulfilling career. There is a sense of pride in serving the military. It is not always about fighting a war, the military is also responsible for many things, including UN peace keeping roles, and humanitarian relief. The bottom line is, you are trained to serve your country, defend it and it's interests, no matter what this may entail. The politicians make the decisions, so your argument may be more applicable to them.

I guess the thing that made me join more than anything else, was my life time interest in aircraft and aviation. Why drive a normal car when you can drive a Ferrari (I hope you can understand the analogy here)!

OH and BTW, out of 11 years of service, I think I collectively only spent about 4 or so weeks in a sleeping bag. Grunts spend a lot more time in a sleeping bag.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:04 am

I will be away for the next 48 hours, and will be offline.

I will be back on Friday, so I will speak to you all then.

Bye for now.

And a special farwell to my fellow deranged killers and psychopaths (Richard and Purdey). :D
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:45 am

Oracle obviously does not know much about how modern armies function. It takes a LOT of science and engineering to get things done, so armies are major employers of graduates and conversely military technology and research affects civilian life. Logistics is good example, it is all the rage among capitalists now.

As for killing, it is not the primary objective, breaking things is a more probable ojective.
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Postby murf62 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:52 am

Oracle wrote:There is a lot of evidence to suggest career-Soldiers are more likely to rape and abuse ... discuss!

If you are going to make a statement like that, then back it up with your source. I would like to know how likely I am to rape and abuse someone when I've finished my 22yrs service.

Soldiers, no matter what the nationality, only do what the governments (that you people elect) tell them to do. If you civvies can't stand behind us, then come and stand in front of us for our measly wage.
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Postby BOF » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:48 am

8) All military forces in the UK are volunteers..all levels, all arms, regular, TA, nato reserves.
I dont think most of those you enquire about are too interested in prolonging this thead because they know what they joined for,
it is those that never did any military service who are curious.
but whatever you served in there was one thing you got. comradeship.
you can see it every sunday after 11 november in whitehall.
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