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by **purdey** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:05 am

I think you have hit the nail on the head CC. They seemed to think it was all a game, a bit of rough and tumble. Unfortunately the bullied never forget....

by **Cheshire Cat** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:07 am

purdey wrote:I think you have hit the nail on the head CC. They seemed to think it was all a game, a bit of rough and tumble. Unfortunately the bullied never forget....

Sounds Like you are a fully paid up member of my club, I wonder how many others there are on this forum.

by **BOF** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:10 am

along with a player in the ENGLAND world cup squad of 66 i was at school with a lad called John Binden. he was THE school bully - ignorant arrogant and his attacks on kids were random. whatever way he was punished, and the cane was still around then, made no difference.
As he grew up he never changed - he even played some crook/villain parts in films and t.v. and was known as a hellraiser off screen...as he got older he moved in different circles - island holidays with the princss margaret in crowd etc . but he never changed. He was implicated in a murder and got involved in drugs which i think eventually killed him. from the day he was born to the day he died he never changed. i have no idea how you think you would have dealt with him or his kind
BOF

by **Cheshire Cat** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:14 am

BOF wrote:8) along with a player in the ENGLAND world cup squad of 66 i was at school with a lad called John Binden. he was THE school bully - ignorant arrogant and his attacks on kids were random. whatever way he was punished, and the cane was still around then, made no difference.
As he grew up he never changed - he even played some crook/villain parts in films and t.v. and was known as a hellraiser off screen...as he got older he moved in different circles - island holidays with the princss margaret in crowd etc . but he never changed. He was implicated in a murder and got involved in drugs which i think eventually killed him. from the day he was born to the day he died he never changed. i have no idea how you think you would have dealt with him or his kind
BOF

Good Morning BOF,
The question is how did he manage to stay out of prison. Sounds a horrible person, I wonder how he became like that.

by **perdike** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:15 am

BOF wrote:8) along with a player in the ENGLAND world cup squad of 66 i was at school with a lad called John Binden. he was THE school bully - ignorant arrogant and his attacks on kids were random. whatever way he was punished, and the cane was still around then, made no difference.
As he grew up he never changed - he even played some crook/villain parts in films and t.v. and was known as a hellraiser off screen...as he got older he moved in different circles - island holidays with the princss margaret in crowd etc . but he never changed. He was implicated in a murder and got involved in drugs which i think eventually killed him. from the day he was born to the day he died he never changed. i have no idea how you think you would have dealt with him or his kind
BOF

The unanswerable: are some people inherently 'bad' ?; born evil? Huge unknown, still today.

by **Cheshire Cat** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:19 am

I am beginning to think that maybe a bad Gene exists, if you think of all of the nasty dictators in the world they all seem to have one thing in common, a total lack of empathy for others.

by **perdike** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:52 am

Cheshire Cat wrote:I am beginning to think that maybe a bad Gene exists, if you think of all of the nasty dictators in the world they all seem to have one thing in common, a total lack of empathy for others.

Then the moral question arises: if they are born with a "bad gene" should they be punished?
Is it fair to be punished for your inherent, genetic make-up?

No doubt , kept securely away from wreaking mayheam on society, but if one is born with "bad genes" one would only be behaving as one is 'programmed"" to behave.

I find this stuff absolutely fascinating!

by **Cheshire Cat** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:03 am

Me Too,

Maybe some kind of re-programming ??

by **roseandchan** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:03 am

my son was bullied at primary school. it was by a family of gypsy children, 13 in the family, about 4 at one time. trouble was that in a small rural school numbers of pupils make teachers. they didn't want to risk loosing 4 kids because this would mean they would loose a teacher, so they wouldn't act on it and risk loosing a teacher. shame on the suffolk education authority! my son had to move school or face being beaten up twice a day. we changed his school! later on when paths crossed again he did black both eyes of one of the boys.

by **Cheshire Cat** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:07 am

roseandchan wrote:my son was bullied at primary school. it was by a family of gypsy children, 13 in the family, about 4 at one time. trouble was that in a small rural school numbers of pupils make teachers. they didn't want to risk loosing 4 kids because this would mean they would loose a teacher, so they wouldn't act on it and risk loosing a teacher. shame on the suffolk education authority! my son had to move school or face being beaten up twice a day. we changed his school! later on when paths crossed again he did black both eyes of one of the boys.

That is shocking, and shame on the school !!!

Well done for your son though,

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