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ANNIVERSARY OF TURKISH INTERVENTION - 20TH JULY

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Postby EPSILON » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:37 pm

Jerry wrote:It will be interesting to see if, with the forthcoming talks, the military celebrations are toned down this year so as not offend the Greek Cypriots. It could be a good indication of whether or not Turkey is sincere in its support of a settlement.


Exempt if military people shoot the Turkish government's representative in celebrations.!!!!!
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Re: ANNIVERSARY OF TURKISH INTERVENTION - 20TH JULY

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:02 pm

EPSILON wrote:
soyer wrote:The Greek Cypriots claim that the Cyprus problem was caused by the landing of Turkish troops in 1974 and that if only they would withdraw, the problem would be solved. This is a serious misconception, for the modern Cyprus question began in 1960 and the landing of Turkish troops was the consequence, not the cause, of the problem.
The Greek Cypriot journalist Aleccos Constantinides, writing in Alithia on 14.12.85 said that Greek Cypriot political parties "are acting as if the Cyprus problem began and ended in 1974. They refrain from talking about the previous coups. The first coup was not in 1974, but only a few years after we had attained our independence in 1960. Had it not been for the first coup there would not have been the 1974 coup." Moreover, there were two military actions in 1974; the first was by Greece on 15th July, which caused the second by Turkey on 20th July.


Mistake A-Cyprus problem (at least the modern one) started on the night of May 1956 when British started to use heavily T/cs policemen against the fighters of EOKA.

Mistake B. -The real base of Cyprus problem was the British insistance to deny the human rights (avtodiathesis) to the majority of citizens of Cyprus (G/cs).

All we can see today as Cyprus problem are results of above two points.

Victims G/cs and T/cs , lost their lifes just because of the above two points.

EOKA B, TMT, INVASION, All are results of above two points.



:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: ANNIVERSARY OF TURKISH INTERVENTION - 20TH JULY

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:15 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
soyer wrote:The Greek Cypriots claim that the Cyprus problem was caused by the landing of Turkish troops in 1974 and that if only they would withdraw, the problem would be solved. This is a serious misconception, for the modern Cyprus question began in 1960 and the landing of Turkish troops was the consequence, not the cause, of the problem.
The Greek Cypriot journalist Aleccos Constantinides, writing in Alithia on 14.12.85 said that Greek Cypriot political parties "are acting as if the Cyprus problem began and ended in 1974. They refrain from talking about the previous coups. The first coup was not in 1974, but only a few years after we had attained our independence in 1960. Had it not been for the first coup there would not have been the 1974 coup." Moreover, there were two military actions in 1974; the first was by Greece on 15th July, which caused the second by Turkey on 20th July.


Mistake A-Cyprus problem (at least the modern one) started on the night of May 1956 when British started to use heavily T/cs policemen against the fighters of EOKA.

Mistake B. -The real base of Cyprus problem was the British insistance to deny the human rights (avtodiathesis) to the majority of citizens of Cyprus (G/cs).

All we can see today as Cyprus problem are results of above two points.

Victims G/cs and T/cs , lost their lifes just because of the above two points.

EOKA B, TMT, INVASION, All are results of above two points.



:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Methinks you are not convinced D :lol:
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Postby pantheman » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:20 pm

ttoli wrote:
pantheman wrote:
roseandchan wrote:are the turkish airforce doing their red arrows show again in girne?


The question you should be asking, do that have permission to do this from the RoC or are they just violating our airspace again?

They are constant offenders and these are all the goodwill gestures that people keep taliokg about. And then they want to talk, My backside.

Turkey is not qualified to be in the EU or anywhere else, they are a 4th world country and need to evolve a few hundred years to modern times before they can understand International law, human rights, court judgements and any other legal mechanism you care to throw at them.

They are a danger to civil avaiation by flying without permission, what a farce.
Compared to Ercan, how many flights from LCA/PFO have crashed? fcukwit


Hey arsewipe, I said a danger. Illegal operation of aircraft can pose a danger danger danger, did you get thet TosserToli????
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Re: ANNIVERSARY OF TURKISH INTERVENTION - 20TH JULY

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:21 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
soyer wrote:The Greek Cypriots claim that the Cyprus problem was caused by the landing of Turkish troops in 1974 and that if only they would withdraw, the problem would be solved. This is a serious misconception, for the modern Cyprus question began in 1960 and the landing of Turkish troops was the consequence, not the cause, of the problem.
The Greek Cypriot journalist Aleccos Constantinides, writing in Alithia on 14.12.85 said that Greek Cypriot political parties "are acting as if the Cyprus problem began and ended in 1974. They refrain from talking about the previous coups. The first coup was not in 1974, but only a few years after we had attained our independence in 1960. Had it not been for the first coup there would not have been the 1974 coup." Moreover, there were two military actions in 1974; the first was by Greece on 15th July, which caused the second by Turkey on 20th July.


Mistake A-Cyprus problem (at least the modern one) started on the night of May 1956 when British started to use heavily T/cs policemen against the fighters of EOKA.

Mistake B. -The real base of Cyprus problem was the British insistance to deny the human rights (avtodiathesis) to the majority of citizens of Cyprus (G/cs).

All we can see today as Cyprus problem are results of above two points.

Victims G/cs and T/cs , lost their lifes just because of the above two points.

EOKA B, TMT, INVASION, All are results of above two points.



:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Methinks you are not convinced D :lol:



Are you? :?
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Postby RichardB » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:31 pm

DT. wrote:
roseandchan wrote:are the turkish airforce doing their red arrows show again in girne?


Hope one burns and crashes down on Denktash's island. You might even hear some festivities on this dark anniversary from our side as well then.


roseandchan wrote:how could any decent person wish for anyone to crash and burn? shame on you .


Possibly the same persons whose villages were 'greased' with Napalm by the aforementioned airforce!
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Re: ANNIVERSARY OF TURKISH INTERVENTION - 20TH JULY

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:49 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
soyer wrote:The Greek Cypriots claim that the Cyprus problem was caused by the landing of Turkish troops in 1974 and that if only they would withdraw, the problem would be solved. This is a serious misconception, for the modern Cyprus question began in 1960 and the landing of Turkish troops was the consequence, not the cause, of the problem.
The Greek Cypriot journalist Aleccos Constantinides, writing in Alithia on 14.12.85 said that Greek Cypriot political parties "are acting as if the Cyprus problem began and ended in 1974. They refrain from talking about the previous coups. The first coup was not in 1974, but only a few years after we had attained our independence in 1960. Had it not been for the first coup there would not have been the 1974 coup." Moreover, there were two military actions in 1974; the first was by Greece on 15th July, which caused the second by Turkey on 20th July.


Mistake A-Cyprus problem (at least the modern one) started on the night of May 1956 when British started to use heavily T/cs policemen against the fighters of EOKA.

Mistake B. -The real base of Cyprus problem was the British insistance to deny the human rights (avtodiathesis) to the majority of citizens of Cyprus (G/cs).

All we can see today as Cyprus problem are results of above two points.

Victims G/cs and T/cs , lost their lifes just because of the above two points.

EOKA B, TMT, INVASION, All are results of above two points.



:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Methinks you are not convinced D :lol:



Are you? :?


Erm - I was hoping someone like your good self D, a respected senior member and one who may well have a first hand account of this period might contribute a little more.
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Re: ANNIVERSARY OF TURKISH INTERVENTION - 20TH JULY

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:01 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
soyer wrote:The Greek Cypriots claim that the Cyprus problem was caused by the landing of Turkish troops in 1974 and that if only they would withdraw, the problem would be solved. This is a serious misconception, for the modern Cyprus question began in 1960 and the landing of Turkish troops was the consequence, not the cause, of the problem.
The Greek Cypriot journalist Aleccos Constantinides, writing in Alithia on 14.12.85 said that Greek Cypriot political parties "are acting as if the Cyprus problem began and ended in 1974. They refrain from talking about the previous coups. The first coup was not in 1974, but only a few years after we had attained our independence in 1960. Had it not been for the first coup there would not have been the 1974 coup." Moreover, there were two military actions in 1974; the first was by Greece on 15th July, which caused the second by Turkey on 20th July.


Mistake A-Cyprus problem (at least the modern one) started on the night of May 1956 when British started to use heavily T/cs policemen against the fighters of EOKA.

Mistake B. -The real base of Cyprus problem was the British insistance to deny the human rights (avtodiathesis) to the majority of citizens of Cyprus (G/cs).

All we can see today as Cyprus problem are results of above two points.

Victims G/cs and T/cs , lost their lifes just because of the above two points.

EOKA B, TMT, INVASION, All are results of above two points.



:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Methinks you are not convinced D :lol:



Are you? :?


Erm - I was hoping someone like your good self D, a respected senior member and one who may well have a first hand account of this period might contribute a little more.



As GR would say, I am only a 'one liner'. Lets improve on that hen.

I was surprised at Epsilons remarks which I thought was a deviation from normal GC responses. A bit nearer to the truth as we know it. :lol:
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Re: ANNIVERSARY OF TURKISH INTERVENTION - 20TH JULY

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:06 am

denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
soyer wrote:The Greek Cypriots claim that the Cyprus problem was caused by the landing of Turkish troops in 1974 and that if only they would withdraw, the problem would be solved. This is a serious misconception, for the modern Cyprus question began in 1960 and the landing of Turkish troops was the consequence, not the cause, of the problem.
The Greek Cypriot journalist Aleccos Constantinides, writing in Alithia on 14.12.85 said that Greek Cypriot political parties "are acting as if the Cyprus problem began and ended in 1974. They refrain from talking about the previous coups. The first coup was not in 1974, but only a few years after we had attained our independence in 1960. Had it not been for the first coup there would not have been the 1974 coup." Moreover, there were two military actions in 1974; the first was by Greece on 15th July, which caused the second by Turkey on 20th July.


Mistake A-Cyprus problem (at least the modern one) started on the night of May 1956 when British started to use heavily T/cs policemen against the fighters of EOKA.

Mistake B. -The real base of Cyprus problem was the British insistance to deny the human rights (avtodiathesis) to the majority of citizens of Cyprus (G/cs).

All we can see today as Cyprus problem are results of above two points.

Victims G/cs and T/cs , lost their lifes just because of the above two points.

EOKA B, TMT, INVASION, All are results of above two points.



:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Methinks you are not convinced D :lol:



Are you? :?


Erm - I was hoping someone like your good self D, a respected senior member and one who may well have a first hand account of this period might contribute a little more.



As GR would say, I am only a 'one liner'. Lets improve on that hen.

I was surprised at Epsilons remarks which I thought was a deviation from normal GC responses. A bit nearer to the truth as we know it. :lol:


I am enlightened. Can you remind us if "The Great plonkeR" had any views on spelling? 8) :)
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Postby RichardB » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:10 am

Lets improve on that hen.


Thats just the Geordie in him coming out :lol: :lol:
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