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Postby Feisty » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:16 pm

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craigbeck wrote:Conor I think you may have lost the plot a little, fueled by your anger. Personally I think you are legally in the right (from what I have read and heard) but getting increasingly insulting towards the whole nation of Cyprus is not going to help you. I work in a public serving role and let me tell you direct selling to the general public is a thankless task, despite your best efforts people complain and insult you. I am sure you are painting a very one sided view of things, your developers are big on the east coast and must have many happy clients. If they were out to profit from defrauding people on a grand scale why would they just pick on you, why not everyone who bought a house from them. I think you were a little green in assuming the buying process would be the same as in the UK, this is Cyprus and things work the Cypriot way (love it or hate it). I think you will win in the end BUT you could damage your chances with the broad sword approach.


Having seen a little of the other side now, I think maybe Conor may have been told his case is not as cut and dry as he may have wished to have portrayed it ...

There is an affidavit on this site that someone posted:
http://www.karayiannas.com.cy/page.php

Maybe this apparent dig at Cyprus might be a last ditch, further attempt at gaining some money perhaps through pester power IMHO .... Who knows?

But I am still waiting to hear who Conor's MP might be ....


And why on earth do you think the developer beat him up and put him in hospital Oracle?
Conor maintains that this affadavit is full of lies and he can prove it to be so. Many of you seem to want to try and convict Conor when he has not committed any crime at all.
All he wants to do is get his case heard in a court of law so that the rights and wrongs can be decided by the people qualifed to do so, after hearing and seeing all the evidence.
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Postby Feisty » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Feisty wrote:
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Magnus wrote:These are the actions of governments. What does Joe Public actually do when he hears of things like this? Nothing. It's the same for any case you can think of. When people lose their homes from typhoons or earthquakes, we see the disaster and feel sorry for the people, but not many of us give to a charity or go and help the victims. Again, it's not a lack of awareness, it's a lack of willpower to do anything because it's not 'our problem'.

The world knows about the Cyprus Problem. It's just that the world doesn't want to help because it has it's own problems.


You'll have to speak for yourself there Magnus. Personally I do a lot of charity work and give £100 to an African charity.
Then again I'd have to say I haven't seen much in the way of charity work in Cyprus. Perhaps I just wasn't looking.


I'm sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I wasn't saying 'we' as in 'you or me personally'. I meant that people in general, your average person in the street, do very little if anything at all when they see all the disasters or political problems in the world. Obviously some people are different but the vast majority are too tied up with their own lives and problems.

I've been on lots of the marches and protests for the Cyprus Problem and I can tell you that the vast majority of people that were there or interested in supporting the cause were Cypriots and people related to Cypriots. Average Joe just stared, but that's fair enough, while others were more than happy to shout abuse and mock the crying mothers carrying pictures of their missing loved ones.

Again, it's not lack of awareness, it's lack of will or interest.

Conor is fortunate because he is taking his protest to the streets of England where he can get the support of the other Brits who have suffered the same. If he does a good enough job, he can even convince other Brits that all Cypriots are evil fraudsters. Emphasising the racial divide is always good for stirring up support.

Try doing that in a country where you're the foreigner, like the Cypriots protesting in the UK, and it's a totally different thing. Let's see him take his protests to the streets of Cyprus.


My personal opinion would be that if Cypriots were to protest PEACEFULLY at the Turkish embassy they would not encounter any hatred from the authorities, would bring more publicity to their cause, which I still maintain is a total mystery to a majority of people, and am sure they would not have to endure threats against them by faceless strangers on a forum.


I do not believe many Cypriots can or will place themselves at the mercy of the "pseudo police" and "trnc" authorities. Nationalistic forces such as "Grey Wolves" are rampant, and will only endeavor to inflame the situation. Anything can happen from there.

Protesting in front of the Turkish Army on the right side of the green line is a different matter, as everything is under the watchful eye of the UN. You are effectively not at the illegal regimes mercy unless you cross the line.


Sorry I did not make myself clear. Sometimes when you are thinking something you automatically assume others to know what you mean.
I meant Cypriots protesting at the Turkish embassy in London and other 'safe' places.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:18 pm

IF he wants to get into a court of law, why didn't he turn up to the trial of the developer here?
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Postby Feisty » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:20 pm

CBBB wrote:IF he wants to get into a court of law, why didn't he turn up to the trial of the developer here?


As far as I am aware no trial has taken place.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:23 pm

According to the avidavit of karayiannis it went to court 4 or 5 times and no sign of conor. So it was dismissed

It is to easy to check on that for it to be a lie.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:24 pm

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Postby Feisty » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:26 pm

CBBB wrote:According to the avidavit of karayiannis it went to court 4 or 5 times and no sign of conor. So it was dismissed

It is to easy to check on that for it to be a lie.


According to Conor the affadavit is full of lies.

If it's easy to check why don't you do so?
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:29 pm

I don't need to, but if it is lie karayiannis lays himself open to perjury charges. I am sure his lawyer checked it over first and he would not let his client be caught out by sonething like that.
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Postby Feisty » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:31 pm

Well I believe Conor wrote that he is now pressing for perjury charges to be laid against them on top of the existing charges.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:34 pm

So we still don't know why conor never went to court.
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