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Postby boomerang » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:03 am

cyprusgeoff wrote:Ignorant pillock boomerang said: -

Now watch Geoff piss and shit his pants as he disappears from the forum...what a moron...

Did you have to explain that to your Daughter as well?

I won't be going anywhere, I'm 100% behind anybody who can change the corrupt system that seems to be the norm in this country where the developers, builders and lawyers take peoples money and dishonestyrules seemingly without any punishment.


when I require your opinion on anything I will let you rattle my zip....deal?

in the meantime choke on this moron to which is what I have benn saying all along...I can see litigation coming on...

http://www.karayiannas.com.cy/page.php

you thoughts on this grease monkey are?
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:11 am

That definitely puts a different twist on the story.

I was rather sceptical that some of conor's claims were probably exagerations, but it now appears they are lies.

OK, I don't accept the avadavit as 100% gospel, but the fact that O'Dwey didn't turn up in court 4 times seems to indicate something.
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Postby roseandchan » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:42 am

we purchased in cyprus and have no complaints,my advice is don't leave your brain behind in the uk when buying abroad.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:21 am

May I ask Mr.Conor to comment on the claims by Mr.Karayianas in his affidavit that on Feb 13th 2006 , you visited the offices of Mr Karayianas and presented them with an ultimatum , that is , provide you with a property in the value of £300,000 , with no adjoining properties , or compensate you to the tune of £300,000 , failing which you would proceed with the launch of your website . Did you or did you not make those demands Sir.
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Postby roseandchan » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:39 am

conor did anywhere in your contract it state that they would not build more houses close to your? my friend is a barrister in the uk. he has always told me to give a contract to him to look over before signing it. as contracts are designed to f--k you. not just in cyprus but in the uk also. did you get a uk lawyer to look over your contract?
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original drawings

Postby annaka » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:54 am

From Conor's original posting I seem to remember seeing three bungalows marked on the drawing presented to him by his developer and subsequently these bungalows became two-storey houses overlooking his garden and pool area which was one of the main reasons he went ahead and signed the contract. Were the drawings officially recognised and permission granted by the Land Registry, or were they always two-storeyed houses from the start.

It is possible that the developers realised they had sold the property at too low a price which would possibly suit them to reimburse the purchaser and sell to somebody else, but that's another story.

Regards, Annaka.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:57 am

Annaka,

Read the avidavit at http://www.karayiannas.com.cy/page.php
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Marios Karayiannas

Postby Conor » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:09 am

Keep up bigots.
You haven't just found a goldmine. I even devote an entire page to the oppositions accusation.
http://www.lyingbuilder.com/response.html
and I was first to break the news of the affidavit back in May.
I don’t have time to go over the same ground so as they say in the House of Commons.
“I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago.”
Conor wrote:
Eliko wrote:Conor, not wishing to appear as a prophet of doom (although your complaint does have all the hallmarks of misfortune) I cannot but help thinking that your case took a serious down-turn when you resorted to insult and abuse in the early stages of negotiations..

Cypriot people do not take kindly to such behaviour, particularly when their families become the target of such affront, nor do the courts (whether in Cyprus or elsewhere).

Your web-site may also prove to be something of a liability in your quest for justice since it would appear to be something of an overall condemnation of ALL speculators and developers, notwithstanding the fact that you also make disparaging remarks about the Legal profession and the Judiciary.

You may well see your campaign as a means to save others from experiencing similar difficulties to your own (and that is commendable) but do not assume that because of the support you are receiving you are strengthening your case, in fact, you may even be weakening it.

Street protests and rallies have failed miserably in dealing with greater issues than you have highlighted, I would urge caution rather than such degrees of optimism you have and are displaying.

The actual case of GBH will be dealt with as a seperate issue and you may well have the satisfaction of seeing the perpetrators punished for their actions, I doubt if the outcome of that case will significantly influence judgement on the major issue.

Realizing that you will not receive my views with much favour, I would like to conclude by saying that I do wish you well in your quest for justice, although I do feel that you may well have compromised the strength of your action by resorting to insult in the first instance, I do wonder if, at this late stage, abject apologies might be a surer route in ensuring satisfaction than a contest in court.


Hi Eliko,

Thanks for your comment. I don't have time for a full response at the moment but I think you are reading the document as a statement of FACTS...its not.

There were no insults from my side in the early stages of negotiation... That didn't come from me until a Year after the FIRST assault. Within that year they had RESOLD my house. Lied to the court. and refused to simply give us back our money.

Its all up on my website in minute detail where I have a comprehensive timeline backed up by evidence (and on YouTube) They have nothing because it's all lies. If you need me to point to specific documents then I will at a later time.

I will just quote these words from another forum. I'm busy preparing for the weekends events so may not have time to respond today. Cheers.

a wise man in another forum wrote:
The court is not saying that this is a true version of events, merely that someone has gone to the court and sworn on oath that this is a true version of events, and the court has witnessed them making this statement.

If the person making the affidavit is later shown to have knowingly said something that is not true in the statement, they can then be charged with perjury (as if they had made such a false statement during court proceedings).

The SBA court administers the SBA area which is much larger than the actual bases see the map at: http://www.sba.mod.uk/admin.htm (click on maps)

There is also a description of the courts activities at this site.

Conor wrote:
miltiades wrote:I have stayed out of this "debate " thus far, I do however have a question for Mr Conor , he doesn't of course have to answer it but it would be interesting to know if what Karayianas stated in their statement ie that a full refund was offered to Mr Conor but Mr Conor demanded a new villa worth 400 thousand pounds plus £100000.00
is in fact a blatant distortion of the truth . I'm not suggesting that such an offer was made , ie a full refund of monies paid , or that Mr Conor declined and demanded the above mentioned settlement.


Thank you Miltiades for your question.

Its very easy to answer and prove with correspondence. All this correspondence was copied to my lawyers at the time it was sent. It was discussed in meetings or phone calls I had with the opposition which I have on audio. (slam dunk!) There is only one way to deal with liars and that is to record what they say and play it back to them. It's actually all been on my website but as my story has grown it may be hard for new viewers to filter through.

http://www.lyingbuilder.com/lies/files/13thfeb2006zip.zip


http://www.lyingbuilder.com/may18/toFPittadjis17092007.doc


Thanks for taking an interest in our case.
When reading Marios Karayiannas' affidavit keep in mind the title of my website. For that affidavit born out of desperation I will be pushing for a charge of perjury.

Goodnight
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JoJo wrote:If I were Conor, I would have taken my money and run when the developer offered him a refund.


JoJo
When did he offer a refund?
Please direct that question to the source of that statement Marios Karayiannas. (it's a lie)

Eliko,
Thanks for your comments
However its fine.We are in great shape with all the facts and evidence..As for Marios Karayiannas' statement the clue is in the title of my website.

Their was no foul language used from me for over 2 years. I wont even list the suffering for my family during the two years. That call from their lawyer who unlawfully sold my house came out of the blue and was full of lies. I couldn't take any more by then. Its unethical for the opposing lawyer to phone me and the court will see that. I won't be intimidated. Give some thought as to why these British educated lawyers aren't taking me on in the UK.

Let me just point you to 3 things to show you the early days.
On the trip when I'm hit with the problems to my house and the changes to the development I end with this meeting.
http://www.lyingbuilder.com/trans2.html
Could not be more polite and am told to go away and discuss with my wife their changes and a solution.

Back in England (next working day) they have our very important letter
http://www.lyingbuilder.com/lies/files/13thfeb2006zip.zip

They don't respond as promised. I get them on the phone 9 days later.
http://www.lyingbuilder.com/trans3.html

Eliko - I'm whiter than white and have all the evidence including my phone bills. Their story dosn't fit in any time line to correspondence or evidence. They say during this period they are chasing me for money. Its madness, ridiculous, laughable. The only thing they have going for them is the inept legal system but I welcome Cyprus to the EU.

Once I knew they were Lying Builders I recorded everything. There is only one way to deal with liars and that is to play back to them their lies.

What is it with the lying? Is it epidemic? I've done business all round the world I've never known anything like it.

Cheers for your best wishes.
Conor

Conor wrote:
DT. wrote:Conor why didn't you just get your money back and call the whole thing quits? You could have been relaxing in a villa on the beach now instead of all this aggro.



Here is the history of negotiations I had to send to their own lawyer. Its also now back on my website at the bottom of front page. Our money back was NEVER on the table. Remember where I got the title for my website from I have proof for everything. Thanks for taking an interest in my case.

http://www.lyingbuilder.com/may18/toFPittadjis17092007.doc

I'll reply to the other points after tomorrows event :arrow:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:14 am

Conor ... who is your MP?
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Postby boomerang » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:17 am

Why didn't you finish the house and put it on the market?...But stopping payment is breach of contract...even if you stood to lose a few quid it would have been a better outcome....or maybe you could have made a bit of profit by selling it...

Mistakes happen, but you had ample time to correct them...
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