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Postby purdey » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:53 pm

Long time no chat, still down under ?
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Postby Feisty » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:59 pm

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Conor wrote:IMPORTANT NOTE: NOTHING CONCERNING THE NORTH WILL BE ALLOWED ON MY WEBSITE. WE BOUGHT WITHIN THE EU. YOU START YOUR OWN WEBSITE FOR THAT ISSUE.

Goodnight


Yes, but why did you feel the need to say you were taking refuge in an illegally occupied unrecognized (for legal reasons) pseudo state in one of your above posts, Conor?

Are you perhaps being offered any incentives by them for these seemingly anti-Cypriot actions?


I'd imagine he feels safer in the north Oracle having been attacked on two occasion in the south and not in a random attack.


Well Feisty, this is an opinions forum and Connor has come here inviting opinions based on what he is prepared to present to us.

But he can't stop people reading between the lines and putting two and two together with the snippets that we can manage to view. I understand we do not have the whole story.

But i believe Connor also should understand that some people are more curious than others and do not just swallow what he wants us to.

Some of us may think about these pieces of the jigsaw puzzle, and move them round our heads to see how best they fit and not necessarily how we are told they should fit.

To me this is like some giant riddle, and I am trying to make sense of it.

I do not like the picture that emerges.

My concerns are now that Connor may be receiving incentives from the north to damage the image of Cyprus. It's just my view based on the incomplete picture that we are presented with. I have asked direct questions before and I am fed up with being lambasted and realise I will not get any answers other than what Connor is prepared to tell us and that is fine so long as he then also does not expect us to believe his conclusions as final, on the matter IMHO.

I hope whoever is dealing with the potential damage that in my opinion Connor seems intent on causing Cyprus, looks into this possibility of possible encouragement from the north and real justice can be served ....


If Conorr were able to get his case in court then all the facts would be there to see. As it is, he is being thwarted by the authorities so why you think he should not be teeling the truth I don't know.

I specifically ordered this same lawyer not to withdraw my entry at the land registry for a property I paid CYP£140k for. They went ahead and did so anyway then I find my property is for sale for CYP£250k.
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Postby Feisty » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:00 pm

boomerang wrote:I for one I am not condoning the seriousnes of the case...But there is the correct way and the wrong way to go about it...

What Conner and others are doing are harming the case...blind freddie can see this...

The best thing is to stop encouraging such a behaviour, feisty, coz if the case turns a turn for the worse, Conner will be left holding his balls in his hands while you have nothing to lose...Now you get it?

You ain't helping him...try and think about it...


I support his fight for justice and any legal avenues he takes to achieve it. I am a victim too and have already lost a considerable amount of money.
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Postby Feisty » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:01 pm

Maynard23 wrote:I think Conor might be better off sleeping rough down around the back streets of Kings Cross, the punters are not so fussy in that location and judging by the trash we have attracted here, they might do a little better in that area. :lol:


Looks like wherever he was he'd be in danger of treading on your mind that is clearly entrenched in the gutter.
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Postby Feisty » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:05 pm

And to those of you who keep saying that a forum is no place to express your real grievances - Perhaps if you got off your lazy arses and stopped preaching hatred against Turks on the forums and did something constructive like camping outside Turkish embassies and fighting for what you believe in you'd be a bit less consumed by hatred and may have achieved more.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:09 pm

Feisty wrote:
boomerang wrote:I for one I am not condoning the seriousnes of the case...But there is the correct way and the wrong way to go about it...

What Conner and others are doing are harming the case...blind freddie can see this...

The best thing is to stop encouraging such a behaviour, feisty, coz if the case turns a turn for the worse, Conner will be left holding his balls in his hands while you have nothing to lose...Now you get it?

You ain't helping him...try and think about it...


I support his fight for justice and any legal avenues he takes to achieve it. I am a victim too and have already lost a considerable amount of money.


Its all about winning Feisty...don't lose sight and stay focus...
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Postby boomerang » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:12 pm

purdey wrote:Long time no chat, still down under ?


yeap the lucky country to you all :lol:
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Postby perdike » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:15 pm

boomerang wrote:
Feisty wrote:
boomerang wrote:I for one I am not condoning the seriousnes of the case...But there is the correct way and the wrong way to go about it...

What Conner and others are doing are harming the case...blind freddie can see this...

The best thing is to stop encouraging such a behaviour, feisty, coz if the case turns a turn for the worse, Conner will be left holding his balls in his hands while you have nothing to lose...Now you get it?

You ain't helping him...try and think about it...


I support his fight for justice and any legal avenues he takes to achieve it. I am a victim too and have already lost a considerable amount of money.[/quote

Its all about winning Feisty...don't lose sight and stay focus...


GOD, VICTIMS . . . they make me sick . . (especially the self-proclaimed ones who become 'somebodies' through their "victimhood" . . and there are legions of the species these days!).
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Postby Magnus » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:17 pm

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To a large extent Magnus we place our trust in 'our' lawyers who we only find out are often acting for the developer as well when a problem arises so at the very time we need to be able to rely on the law we find we are a victim of it by an unscrupulous lawyer who has never heard of the concept of conflict of interest, or indeed who has decided to totally disregard it as he knows the system is suspect (to say the least).


I honestly feel sorry for Conor and anyone else in a similar situation, but I still think that perhaps he didn't do enough to ensure he was dealing with someone reputable. I'm not trying to excuse the developer of any bad practices, but there is such a thing as 'caveat emptor'.

On his website, Conor writes:

Conor wrote: May 2005 we were introduced to Karayiannas & Son Ltd by a buying agent in Cyprus. We made an offer on the house (CYP 163,000 including pool) and left a small deposit (CYP 1,000) to secure the price.


Despite the introduction, surely the first thing to do is check out the firm's credentials. If they claim membership of any professional bodies then contact them to make sure. Conor should have done this before making an offer and handing over his deposit. As it turns out, the response he has from the FIABCI is dated earlier this year. Far too late in my opinion.


Conor wrote: June 2005 I return to Cyprus to check out the company, their build quality, site plan, and propose interior changes etc. I also found an independent solicitor that they have never dealt with to draw up the contract.


Conor doesn't state what he did to 'check out the company', neither does he explain why he didn't take these steps before making an offer and handing over his CYP£1,000 deposit. Wouldn't the most logical thing to do be to contact the professional associations the builder claims membership of and also talk to people that had bought property from the developer previously and see what their experiences were? Even at this point, he could have pulled out and only lost the deposit.


Conor wrote: August 2005 The contract is signed and deposited at the land registry for specific purpose. Our first installment of CYP 39,000 is paid.


At this point it's too late, the contract is signed and the payment has been made.

While the developer and lawyer may be crooks, it's not really fair to implicate the family that bought the property after him. What exactly are they supposed to do? They have already handed over their cash and taken posession. His website is full of statements accusing them of 'being friends' with the developer. How exactly is friendship a crime?

I hope Conor gets his money back but I think some of his comments are unfair to the island and people of Cyprus and I don't think he is doing himself any favours in the way he is making his case. At times it all sounds like a conspiracy theory, with the developer, lawyers, other buyer, police, courts and politicians all out to screw him over.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:18 pm

perdike wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Feisty wrote:
boomerang wrote:I for one I am not condoning the seriousnes of the case...But there is the correct way and the wrong way to go about it...

What Conner and others are doing are harming the case...blind freddie can see this...

The best thing is to stop encouraging such a behaviour, feisty, coz if the case turns a turn for the worse, Conner will be left holding his balls in his hands while you have nothing to lose...Now you get it?

You ain't helping him...try and think about it...


I support his fight for justice and any legal avenues he takes to achieve it. I am a victim too and have already lost a considerable amount of money.[/quote

Its all about winning Feisty...don't lose sight and stay focus...


GOD, VICTIMS . . . they make me sick . . (especially the self-proclaimed ones who become 'somebodies' through their "victimhood" . . and there are legions of the species these days!).


Yeap and the 15 min of fame is just about over...I can seriously see the case collapsing due to unwarranted publicity...
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