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Postby Piratis » Sun May 08, 2005 12:10 am

yes you have openly accepted the acts of the sixties regime, which completely shocked me- thanx for your honesty. You ask what about the Ottoman acts? Fair question. I don’t ask about Roman empire, British Empire, nor Alexander’s Empire, Every empire is built on bloodshed.


I didn't say to you anything about the acts of the Ottoman empire in Greece or Romania or other parts of the world. I was talking about Cyprus. But even if you take it worldwide, again its the same. The Turks in general have cause much more suffering to the Greeks than the other way around.

You say every empire is built on bloodshed like it was ok for the Turks to kill, but it was not ok for the GCs? Crimes are crimes and there are no excuses.

Also, don't forget the invasion and the 30 years of occupation.

All in all, TCs can not pretent to be the victims that now have to be reworded on the expense of GCs. This is not the case.


Ottomans clearly had the resources they never attempted to exterminate you, but as soon as gc took control of Cyprus you tried to exterminate us.


Where do you base this claim? The Ottomans killed and opressed the GCs in a 100 times worst way and for way longer period of time. Not to mention the ethnic cleansing that Turkey performed in northern Cyprus (which is a fact, and not a theory).

Personally I want legality to return and I don't want to blame anybody for the past. The only reason I am forced to do so is when some TCs try to excuse their actions of today based on only a tiny part of the history.

If what is just for today is not only what is legal and what is based on human rights but you want to bring in history as a factor, then brinng in the whole hisotry (of the 2 communities), not just the tiny part that suits you.
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Postby gabaston » Sun May 08, 2005 12:25 am

piratis

You are the living proof that they did not exterminate you, or your fathers.
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Postby uzan » Sun May 08, 2005 12:38 am

MicAtCyp wrote:
Uzan wrote: Iam Turkish Cpriot from Baf.Iam not Cpriot,I am Turkish Cpriot.


Last time you said you were dating GC girls outside the cinemas of Famagusta......[/quote
Yes I did say that and its true because I went to Namik Kemal Lise in Gazi Magosa.My time only 2 lise they have one in Lefkosa and another in Gazi Magosa,we used to stay in shcool.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Sun May 08, 2005 5:01 pm

gabaston wrote: piratis

You are the living proof that they did not exterminate you, or your fathers.


Ha,ha,ha. What an undisputable argument!!
Ditto dude.
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Postby detailer » Mon May 09, 2005 7:58 pm

Hi everyone,

This NAZI similarity is right I think, but not the matching of the actors.

What an interesting coincidence! Director of MAHI newspaper!

What about MAHI?

He is owned by Nicos Sampson!

Who is Nicos Sampson?

An EOKA terrorist who is proud of killing many Turkish, Greek and English!

When you attempt terrorism, you just face the results...

Like Nazis... Who had their country divided.

Another thing...

Some peopele here criticised KEMALISM that it is totatliter and not democratic and humanistic.

Please tell me the only nations who were sympatahising the killing of Muslims in Bosnia or Kosova?
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Postby Kifeas » Mon May 09, 2005 8:09 pm

detailer wrote:Some peopele here criticised KEMALISM that it is totatliter and not democratic and humanistic.


Isn’t it?

detailer wrote:Please tell me the only nations who were sympatahising the killing of Muslims in Bosnia or Kosova?


Who are they?
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Postby detailer » Mon May 09, 2005 8:17 pm

Well you better answer the part first.

KEMALISM is the ultimate model to bring democracy and modernity to any muslim country.

and I am the one who is asking the last question.
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Postby Kifeas » Mon May 09, 2005 8:32 pm

detailer wrote:Well you better answer the part first.

KEMALISM is the ultimate model to bring democracy and modernity to any muslim country.

and I am the one who is asking the last question.


I am sorry my friend but the language of this forum is only english. :(
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Postby gabaston » Mon May 09, 2005 10:51 pm

Some have criticized KEMALISM as Totalitarian and not democratic and humane.

Correct?


Please tell me, which nations supported the killings of Muslims in Bosnia or Kosova?
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Postby detailer » Tue May 10, 2005 9:18 pm

First of all, I am sorry that I said "nation". Of course evenryone is not included in this.

Second, "sympathising" might be the wrong word here. Nobody can praise Milosevic openly. Lets say "overlooking" or "tolerating" or "ignoring".

If you just type support,milosevic,countries in google, you will find the answer of my question.

Which countries parlament have collected signatures to prevent Milosvic going to the court?

Which countries ministers have met often with Milosevic until 2000?

I think this is all quite related to "pan-ethnical hystery".

Kemalism was appropriate model for Turkey in the 1920s and Kemalism was mostly finished in 40s. Some aspects are still used because of the uneducated population in Turkey.

Please dont forget that Turkey's neighbours are Iran, Syria, Iraq ....

You need some defence mechanisms in Turkey to protect secularity and democracy.
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