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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Tue May 24, 2005 9:19 pm

Kifeas wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Mr kifeas

I would appear that nothing I say is going to appease you

Mr cannedmoose faced a dilema, and in my opinion he made a correct choice.

If my response to him made you feel that I have slighted the GC's in general or you in particular. then I must inform you that this was not my intention.


It seems that his opinion and or his choices (as you said,) are in conflict with the GC's ideas and opinions.

Therefore,
If you say that he is a real human being because he is capable to make the correct choice, and since it is the opposite of what the GCs choose and accept, then the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices.

PS: Are you in the business of appeasing me or anybody else in this forum?


Mr kifeas

your logic is faultless

you must be right
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 24, 2005 9:37 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Kifeas wrote: It seems that his opinion and or his choices (as you said,) are in conflict with the GC's ideas and opinions.

Therefore,
If you say that he is a real human being because he is capable to make the correct choice, and since it is the opposite of what the GCs choose and accept, then the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices.

PS: Are you in the business of appeasing me or anybody else in this forum?


Mr kifeas

your logic is faultless

you must be right


I must be right with what?
That the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices?
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Tue May 24, 2005 9:48 pm

Kifeas wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Kifeas wrote: It seems that his opinion and or his choices (as you said,) are in conflict with the GC's ideas and opinions.

Therefore,
If you say that he is a real human being because he is capable to make the correct choice, and since it is the opposite of what the GCs choose and accept, then the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices.

PS: Are you in the business of appeasing me or anybody else in this forum?


Mr kifeas

your logic is faultless

you must be right


I must be right with what?
That the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices?


Mr kifeas

Only if YOU say so
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 24, 2005 9:50 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Kifeas wrote: It seems that his opinion and or his choices (as you said,) are in conflict with the GC's ideas and opinions.

Therefore,
If you say that he is a real human being because he is capable to make the correct choice, and since it is the opposite of what the GCs choose and accept, then the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices.

PS: Are you in the business of appeasing me or anybody else in this forum?


Mr kifeas

your logic is faultless

you must be right


I must be right with what?
That the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices?


Mr kifeas

Only if YOU say so


And you?
What do you say?
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Tue May 24, 2005 10:05 pm

Kifeas wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Kifeas wrote: It seems that his opinion and or his choices (as you said,) are in conflict with the GC's ideas and opinions.

Therefore,
If you say that he is a real human being because he is capable to make the correct choice, and since it is the opposite of what the GCs choose and accept, then the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices.

PS: Are you in the business of appeasing me or anybody else in this forum?


Mr kifeas

your logic is faultless

you must be right


I must be right with what?
That the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices?


Mr kifeas

Only if YOU say so


And you?
What do you say?


Mr kifeas

I say Mr cannedmoose is a Mensch
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 24, 2005 10:47 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Kifeas wrote: It seems that his opinion and or his choices (as you said,) are in conflict with the GC's ideas and opinions.

Therefore,
If you say that he is a real human being because he is capable to make the correct choice, and since it is the opposite of what the GCs choose and accept, then the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices.

PS: Are you in the business of appeasing me or anybody else in this forum?


Mr kifeas

your logic is faultless

you must be right


I must be right with what?
That the GCs are not real human beings because they are incapable of making the correct choices?


Mr kifeas

Only if YOU say so


And you?
What do you say?


Mr kifeas

I say Mr cannedmoose is a Mensch

Only because he supported an idea that rationalises your pursuits!
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Wed May 25, 2005 5:01 pm

Mr kifeas

I do not have a hidden agenda nor do I have pursuits that need rationalising.

I do believe that families who have been living on this island for up to three generations and who have been granted citizenship deserve to be treated better than the cattle that you seem to think they are.

Is your proposed "Ethnic Cleansing" more palatable than that which the GC's suffered in 74?

The fact that I admire the difficult decision of Mr cannedmoose for his hunanitarian ethics does not mean that I think that all GC's are inhuman.

If, however , you feel that this is the case, then Mr kifeas, If the cap fits, wear it.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 25, 2005 10:11 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Mr kifeas

I do not have a hidden agenda nor do I have pursuits that need rationalising.

I do believe that families who have been living on this island for up to three generations and who have been granted citizenship deserve to be treated better than the cattle that you seem to think they are.

Is your proposed "Ethnic Cleansing" more palatable than that which the GC's suffered in 74?

The fact that I admire the difficult decision of Mr cannedmoose for his hunanitarian ethics does not mean that I think that all GC's are inhuman.

If, however , you feel that this is the case, then Mr kifeas, If the cap fits, wear it.


Three generations?? Three generations last for 90 years. One generation lasts for 30 years. The Greek Cypriots are living as a Greek speaking entity, in the entire territory of Cyprus, for at least 117 generations (3,500 years.) And during all these generations but the last one, they were always the majority in every single corner of this island.

Therefore, they are the ones who have the moral right to agree how many settlers should stay, more than anyone else. And one generation of settlers is nothing compare to the 117 generations. The number of settlers that will remain, should be such that will safeguard in practice and not in theory, the divine right of those GCs who wish to return back to their ancestral lands.

Certainly, one should not expect that the GCs will ever accept that a bigger number of settlers should have the right to stay in the north, than the number of GCs that will be "allowed" to return back, as in fact it was envisioned by Annan in his “plan.”

And please stop this populistic and moralistic counselling regarding how people should be treated. We know very well how human beings should be treated, at least much better than your "motherland" Turkey knows and does. No one said that we want these people to be "kicked out" like dogs. There are many other ways. The best way is for Turkey to pay them in order for them to agree to be repatriated, and if they do not accept the amount, then Turkey should be kept increasing the amount up and up (like in auctions,) until even the last one in excess of the agreed number will decite to take the money and go back. Even if this will mean that it will cost to Turkey one billion dollars. She can easily choose to buy ten F-15s less in her next armament round and save this money.
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Postby garbitsch » Wed May 25, 2005 10:33 pm

And Kiffie solved the problem!!
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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 25, 2005 10:35 pm

garbitsch wrote:And Kiffie solved the problem!!

who is kiffie?
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