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[Kikapu]

Anway, i'm not turkish my wife is only TC so i dont say this becasue i'm but it is knowen Turkish millitarry very powerful and very brave, greeks dont have this reputtation. And reputtation of GC, I dont say nothing

Loverboy, I've asked you few weeks ago what your nationality and ethnicity was, but I did not hear from you.

Can you now answer these questions please.

Thanks.

[bill cobbett]

A Turkish aircraft of the Turkish Air Force flew over Nicosia and the Presidential Palace. There was a lock on it from the National Guard and it should have been brought down.

Simple as that. We should not tolerate any further invasions of our sovereignty by any military vehicle, flying or not. The only problem would have been that the wreckage would have hit down town Nicosia unavoidably leading to casualties which is what the National Guard was probably concerned about.

Presumably it is a violation of the 74 cease-fire every time the tr military fly over the Free Areas?

[DT.]

A Turkish aircraft of the Turkish Air Force flew over Nicosia and the Presidential Palace. There was a lock on it from the National Guard and it should have been brought down.

Simple as that. We should not tolerate any further invasions of our sovereignty by any military vehicle, flying or not. The only problem would have been that the wreckage would have hit down town Nicosia unavoidably leading to casualties which is what the National Guard was probably concerned about.

Or maybe "we have 63% today, I pull the triger and then have 0%, no I beter not pull triger, gammodon bellondo Turko".

Thats why the turkish airforce keeps getting f****ed over the Aegean by Hellas?

Only in war games, in real world if you keep score i think you know better who f**k who more

Anway, i'm not turkish my wife is only TC so i dont say this becasue i'm but it is knowen Turkish millitarry very powerful and very brave, greeks dont have this reputtation. And reputtation of GC, I dont say nothing

The fact that you continue this charade of not being turkish is fine with me, but as a pointer, you even write in a turkish manner might wanna shake it up a little)

As for the reputation of GC's in battle, Turkey had an overwhelming amount of casualties from a betrayed, badly armed disorganised army. If it wasn;t for the treasonous junta and eoka b we could have held out a little longer and international pressure would have piled on the Turks.

As Churchill said, "the greeks didn't fight like heroes, Heroes fought like greeks." This was true for the invasion.

[Jerry]

Oh dear it looks like the economy in the north is on the verge of collapse, who is going to bail them out, Turkey or the ROC?

North seeks ‘miracle’ to stave off public finance collapse
By Simon Bahceli

TURKEY’S refusal to bankroll the Turkish Cypriot authorities this month means it will take a “miracle” to pay public sector salaries, ‘finance minister’ Ahmet Uzun has warned.

Uzun’s comments came in the wake of industrial action sparked by the authorities’ attempts to implement further austerity measures aimed at capping public spending. Since January, all pay increases within the public sector have been frozen, along with a ban on overtime. Despite the freeze, however, public servants’ salaries are still linked to inflation and subject to a two-monthly review – a mechanism Uzun now wishes to see abolished.

Backing Uzun against already-inflamed trade unionists, ‘prime minister’ Ferdi Sabit Soyer said last week his administration had pleaded with the Turkish government for additional funds to help foot the salary bill, but that the plea had been refused. He described the Turkish government’s refusal as “understandable” and announced that he would seek the implementation of measures that would “address structural shortcomings” within the public sector. Neither raising taxes, nor further borrowing were options, he insisted.

A budget deficit is the norm for the Turkish Cypriot authorities, and has in the past been plugged by donations from the Turkish government. This time however, Turkey has refused to provide funds beyond the approximately $500 million annual budget.

Uzun warned that while the current lack of funds stemmed partly from rising oil prices and the global credit crisis, their primary cause was “structural problems” in the north’s public sector inherited from administrations dating back to the division of the island in 1974. These earlier administrations, he added, had managed to pay salaries because of previous Turkish governments’ willingness and ability bankroll them, and through now-unviable ways of raising revenue.

“In the past we had a closed economy where there was no competition [from outside]. Now we have to compete with the Greek Cypriot side and abide by EU norms. To do this we cut VAT and import duties,” he said.

Speaking to the Cyprus Mail yesterday, economist and former ‘economy minister’ Ayse Donmezer said the need for radical reforms within the Turkish Cypriot economy was well known. A World Bank report on the north’s economy published in June 2006 clearly stated that excessive spending on public sector salaries and uneconomic public corporations was untenable and held back real economic growth.

“In normal economies you have a ratio of one person receiving a retirement pension from the state to four active workers. Here we have only two working to every one getting a pension,” Donmezer said. She said the problem was being further compounded by a gradually ageing population and still-growing employment in the public sector.

“Workers’ contributions are low, but the government’s spending on pensions and wages are constantly rising.”

She also highlighted a need to either close down or privatise ‘state-run’ corporations such as electricity provider KIBTEK and CYPRUVEX, a corporation that oversees the citrus fruit industry.

Donmezer believes “painful reforms” are needed if the north’s ‘finance ministry’ wishes to avoid total bankruptcy.

“We need constantly to review public spending and adjust contributions according to the revenue coming in. We also need to force sectors of the economy that do not pay tax to do so,” she said, quoting a study that found 30 to 40 per cent of incomes in the north were not declared and therefore left untaxed. She also called for changes in the law to make investment, including foreign investment, more attractive.

“Turkey could bail us out and we could get by in the short term. But we will simply have to face the same problem next month. Or we could borrow, which will mean our children will be ones to pay,” she concluded.



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[roseandchan]

they just put up the import duties on cars last week. maybe they didn't get told in the finance ministry. we have retired friends who are only mid 50's, so maybe they could up the retirement age!

[Nikitas]

"North seeks ‘miracle’ to stave off public finance collapse "

The miracle is called becoming independent of Turkey, stand on their own two feet as members of a united Cyprus. The south managed to do just that, becoming independent of Greece. But then in the north they have Enosis, and that is hard to undo.

[pantheman]

Perhaps Banaiot would like to contribute his salary (the one paid to him by the Roc he wants to fuck) to his chums on the otherside. he has just about agreed to give them half the country, so his salary shouldn't too hard to swallow.

Well Bananiot, will you donate it??

It would also appear that the strongest opponents of unification must the the public sector workers, because they know that their arses are fried if we ever were to re unity. VP, Soyer to name a couple, I bet you hold government jobs huh? I would explain many things!

If the RoC bails them out it would be a crime against humanity and they would need to be executed.

[Magnus]

Just tell Denktash to send them his lunch. That should feed them for a couple of months.

Realisitically, in the event of reunification in a BBF, is this what the 'GC Constituent State' has to look forward to? A constant demand to support their economically-backward cripple of a sister state and the assorted parasites living in it that manage to avoid deportation?

[Paphitis]

Perhaps Banaiot would like to contribute his salary (the one paid to him by the Roc he wants to fuck) to his chums on the otherside. he has just about agreed to give them half the country, so his salary shouldn't too hard to swallow.

Well Bananiot, will you donate it??

It would also appear that the strongest opponents of unification must the the public sector workers, because they know that their arses are fried if we ever were to re unity. VP, Soyer to name a couple, I bet you hold government jobs huh? I would explain many things!

If the RoC bails them out it would be a crime against humanity and they would need to be executed.

Bananiot can do his bit by salary sacrificing his "trnc" package back into the "trnc" coffers!

[-mikkie2-]

The bitter reality is that the GC's will have to take a bit economic hit post solution. The bloated public sector jobs in the north will remain for a few years post solution and it us the GC's that will have to pay for this, not Turkey. Perhaps the EU will help out to some degree but it will only be a token amount.

This is what annoys me when Christofias goes on a crusade to 'educate' the public about what a federal solution will mean. The financial aspect is the one that will be the most painful, not the power sharing, yet the financial aspects of a solution are being completely ignored when trying to 'sell' the solution.