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[humanist]

As I stated in another thread both ends of the stick are shitty but TCs know that there will never be a solution with GCs that both sides can commit to 100% and therefore complacent to returning to their Turkish roots and leave behind their Cypriotness, this is only a nat?ral process as our relations are 90% of the time with Turkey.

well why not then take their Turkishness and move to Turkey you will absolutely at home and 100% Turkish. Sharing all the benefits the other 80 million Turks enjoy.

[humanist]

bilako, this is a typical TC response .... refute anything that comes out of the mouth of a GC because they are GC. Mate some of us care, some of us actually go beyond our little world have studied in various fields because we are intellectuals and care. The vast majority of TC's in here will never stop and think before they take upo a pro Turkish position.

As a GC I care about TC's in Cyprus and their existence and the wealth they have brought to Cyprus the influence they have left behind which sets me apart from a Greek from Greece. For that I am thank ful.

I could easily I care less as to whether there is 55,000 TC's left in Cyprus and 250,000 settlers. I think its an insult to TC's that the very regime that came in to so called save them has managed to eliminate 130,000. As far as my stance on settlers after a solution, I believe a large chunk of them can be given EU citizen rights as people living and working in another EU country and that is the end of it. I believe it is detrimental for Talat and the TC's to allow Turkey to impose a number of settlers that is higher than the number of TC's (and by TC's I refer to anyone born on Cyprus prior to 1974 and the descendants or those who have at least on TC perent born in Cyprus prior to 1974).

[humanist]

News from the North ...............

its been came out that GC's will asked at 11 september meeting the control of the Güzelyurt (Morphou) must be given to GC's adminstration .

Özdil Nami said they can bring anything to table . Every side will bring they are own ideas and plans to table .

at 3 rd september talks will start with ceremonial celebration .

Turkish side will bring to table administrative power of the parts to negotiate .

This is all rubbish, I cannot believe we are getting stuck on a village. For Alah's sake can we please concentrate on the real issues such as government process, military, equality and ensuring of human rights. I fail to see how Morphou can bring people togethere and why each side wants Morphou if we are building a country together. Surely if we build a caring society it really wouldn't matter on ethnicity. It leaves me to beg the question what plans are there for the future of Cyprus.

btw I love the Turkish name for Morphou Guzelyurt, I love it.

[Nikitas]

Andrea,

Believe me, the territory aspect is VERY important. Not just for the GC side, but also for the TCs. It is what in the end will determine how many settlers remain on the island and a whole bunch of other important issues. it should rank first in the GC priorities. Morphou is only part of that issue, there is also Mesaoria, Karpasia and above all Famagusta.

[humanist]

Nikitas, I believe that we have lost sight of what Cyprus we are creating for all of us. territory is important when talking about a unified Cyprus as a whole island. The internal structure ought to be flexible at this stage. The number of settlers ought to be worked out by the TC side I think and any number that exceeds their number is an issue for them to decide upon. And I would have thought that Varosha would transfer on the GC State.

I think Talat needs to be very careful when negotiating for settlers remaining back. He needs to decide whether he is doing it to keep more settlers to boost his numbers or whether he is representing his community and wants them to have their authentic culture and ethnicity preserved.

[Nikitas]

Andrea,

It makes me angry when I see so much effort made for settlers, when no thought is spared for Cypriots who were forced by circumstance (political and economic) to leave Cyprus. How about some thought for Cypriots like you and me and hundreds of thousands more who spend their lives away from Cyprus because we lost our place of residence? How about a clause that says we get at least what the settlers get?

Something tells me that any favorable settlement made for settlers will cause resentment among all Cypriots, not just GCs.

[halil]

News from the Northern Cyprus

Preparations continue for the start of full-fledged peace negotiations between President Mehmet Ali Talat and the Leader of the Greek Cypriot Administration Demetris Christofias on the 3rd of September.

President Talat’s special representative for negotiations Ozdil Nami and the Greek Cypriot aide Yorgos Yakovu will come together ahead of the start of negotiations to discuss the final details of the content, yet the exact date of the meeting remains unknown.
Speaking to the BRT newsroom, Ozdil Nami said that the 3rd September meeting will generally be in a form of ceremony and the two leaders will hold the next meeting on comprehensive talks on the 11th of September.

Referring to the Greek Cypriot media reports which earlier said that the meeting’s agenda would be based on administrative authorities, Mr Nami said this was an offer put forward by the Turkish Cypriot side and expressed his satisfaction over the fact that this view had been welcomed.

[halil]

THE NEWS FROM THE NORTHERN CYPRUS.

Foreign Minister Turgay Avci has reacted angrily to the statements by the Greek Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias in which he said that Guzelyurt should be handed over to the Greek Cypriot Administration.

Mr Avci accused the Greek Cypriot Leader of hindering the negotiations process by taking the property issue into the agenda shortly before the start of the full-fledge negotiations.

In a written statement today, the Foreign Minister said it is clear that recent statements by Greek Cypriot officials are not a coincidence but is an organized effort aiming to put negative effect on the negotiations process.

Stating that the Greek Cypriot Side is trying to create a chaos among Turkish Cypriots, Mr Avci stressed that the Turkish Cypriot Side and the TRNC government will keep its solemn stance against these kinds of unfounded statements and demands.

Pointing out that the Greek Cypriot Leader has attempted to take additional concessions by using the Turkish Cypriot People’s ‘YES’ vote to the Annan Plan, Turgay Avci said that the property issue is one of the most sensitive issues and it should be discussed at the negotiations table.

He also added that Mr Christofias has proved the fact that he is sharing the same opinions with his predecessor Papadopulos by putting forward such illogical demands.

At the end of his statement, the Foreign Minister called on the Greek Cypriot Side to search for the solution at the negotiations table and to take steps towards building confidence bridges between the two peoples on the island.

[halil]

THE NEWS FROM THE NORTHERN CYPRUS.

SKYSCRAPPERS FOR NİCOSİA.

Nicosia Turkish Municipality and Nicosia Greek Cypriot Municipality are planning to build skyscrapers in Nicosia with the aim of protecting the green areas and to drop the property prices.

Speaking to BRT, the Mayor of Nicosia Turkish Cemal Bulutoglulari said he took up the issue with the Greek Cypriot Mayor of Nicosia Eleni Mavru and they are sharing the same opinion to put the project into practice.
Explaining that the project will lower the price of urbanization Mr Bulutoglulari maintained that the price of building plots and properties will turn to normal with this project.

Pointing to the importance of new arrangements in development and construction laws in order to reach the level of developed countries, Cemal Bulutoglulari said his municipality is aiming to make fundamental changes in the law.

The project will be implemented on 5 arteries; Kucukkaymakli Street, Mehmet Akif Street, Gocmenkoy, Dumlupinar and Metehan.

[roseandchan]

who truthfully would want to live in a tower block/skyscrapper? maybe ok for offices but not forliving in. so i don't see how this will lower the property prices.