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Postby humanist » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:46 am

I wish them all the best on their wedding an life together. Australia is a great place to live, Melbourne not so nice ;) too much rain and cold. I hope they are happy here. On the other hand it is sad that another TC is leaving. You have no idea how that saddens me, because for me it is a part of Cyprus that is getting lost not just a TC problem.

naughty kids :):):) hope they come home safely though.
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Postby halil » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:57 am

humanist wrote:I wish them all the best on their wedding an life together. Australia is a great place to live, Melbourne not so nice ;) too much rain and cold. I hope they are happy here. On the other hand it is sad that another TC is leaving. You have no idea how that saddens me, because for me it is a part of Cyprus that is getting lost not just a TC problem.

naughty kids :):):) hope they come home safely though.


thanks Andrea ,
They will do wedding in Australia as well . They have to settle in Melbourne because her parents are in Melbourne . More than 100 of our families lives in Melbourne too .
it is to sad to leave your bird place Andrea ,what can we do ? this is life ...
to have better life sometimes you have to run away ....
when you run away you thinking first one day u will return back but when u return everything comes funny to u . you kids gets lost between two culture . i have lot's of family members like this , some of them in Uk some of them in Australia
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Postby humanist » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:15 am

Your welcome halil
Yes I know there is a large TC population in Melbourne that is why I said Melbourne in my reply.
This is certainly life mate this certainly is.

Anyway, thnx for making the effort.
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:27 am

halil wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Is it true that Mustafa Gokmen is not a Cypriot?


You mean his origin is not a Turkish Cypriot ....

İt is true ....he is from Turkey .....he lives in Northern part of Cyprus since 1974 .He is citizan of the TRNC ....According to TRNC law he can elect or elected also he can be TRNC president too .


Now read the above in context of a solution as per the above post regarding the desires of the TC side- where the federal police is 50-50, the rotating presidency is 60-40 share on the presidential terms, and put it all together and it comes to this-

Regardless of majority voting, Cyprus can have mainland Turk as president for 40 per cent of the presidential term. And this will occur in a nation that has the independence of the WHOLE not just the TC statelet, guaranteed by Turkey!

Rejection of this arrangement is guaranteed. Partition is MUCH safer solution.
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:42 am

The TCs are either too dumb to understand they are being extinguished as a community or they are complicit in the process. This is the only explanation I can see for the proposal that settlers from Turkey can get to ministerial office and presumably to the highest office of the presidency.

A solution where this would be prohibited could be worked out, by simply invoking the GCs resistance to non Cypriots holding elected office. But instead Talat says that it is a "violation of human rights" to do so. How about the violation of GC rights when you impose a foreigner on them as president?

Well boys, you are on your own! You chose to move from partners to being less than guests in your own country, you deserve what you get.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:11 am

Nikitas wrote:The TCs are either too dumb to understand they are being extinguished as a community or they are complicit in the process. This is the only explanation I can see for the proposal that settlers from Turkey can get to ministerial office and presumably to the highest office of the presidency.

A solution where this would be prohibited could be worked out, by simply invoking the GCs resistance to non Cypriots holding elected office. But instead Talat says that it is a "violation of human rights" to do so. How about the violation of GC rights when you impose a foreigner on them as president?

Well boys, you are on your own! You chose to move from partners to being less than guests in your own country, you deserve what you get.


As I stated in another thread both ends of the stick are shitty but TCs know that there will never be a solution with GCs that both sides can commit to 100% and therefore complacent to returning to their Turkish roots and leave behind their Cypriotness, this is only a natıral process as our relations are 90% of the time with Turkey.
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Postby halil » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:12 pm

News from the Northern Cyprus.....

Despite the recent positive developments in efforts to find political settlement of the Cyprus problem .GC's have been questioning whether Turkey and Turkish military will allow Talat to work towards a solution ,or whether a settlement will take place despite their efforts .they find it difficult to accept that this doubt has no basis in truth and that the political will demonstrated during the Annan Plan period when thousands attended propeace demonstrations ,was the fruit of the conviction of who supported a settlement .

The real concern should be directed to the GC's Orthodox church.The church stands as an important economic and political power .

Those who call the troops to return to their barracs should also call the priests to return to their churces too .
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Postby bilako22 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:06 pm

[quote="Nikitas"]The TCs are either too dumb to understand they are being extinguished as a community or they are complicit in the process. This is the only explanation I can see for the proposal that settlers from Turkey can get to ministerial office and presumably to the highest office of the presidency.

A solution where this would be prohibited could be worked out, by simply invoking the GCs resistance to non Cypriots holding elected office. But instead Talat says that it is a "violation of human rights" to do so. How about the violation of GC rights when you impose a foreigner on them as president?

Well boys, you are on your own! You chose to move from partners to being less than guests in your own country, you deserve what you get.[

Pure racist rubbish.
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Postby halil » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:25 pm

News from the North ...............

its been came out that GC's will asked at 11 september meeting the control of the Güzelyurt (Morphou) must be given to GC's adminstration .

Özdil Nami said they can bring anything to table . Every side will bring they are own ideas and plans to table .

at 3 rd september talks will start with ceremonial celebration .

Turkish side will bring to table administrative power of the parts to negotiate .
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:46 pm

"Pure racist rubbish."

Bilako, obviously you have not read the conditions for becoming prime minister in the UK, or conditions for holding electoral office in other democratic countries. In some cases the candidate must prove that both his parents and grandparents were born in the country. It is a way of ensuring allegiance to the country, a notion that obviously evades you, If you think that this is reacist rubbish then tell us what would not be racist. Tell us what the qualifications are for holding electoral office in Turkey. COuld a GC by residence qualify for election there?

It is hard for you to understand the objection to someone becoming president by rotation even if he only gets half the TC votes, ie 10 per cent of the total. Add to that the fact that this rotated president can be a foreigner who was not born on the island and then we have a really winning hand for promoting goodwill and reconciliation.
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