Muzzy70 wrote:Piratis wrote:Greek-Cypriots are no more Greek than Americans are English!
Greek Cypriots are as Greek as any other Greek, and the only reason why we are not part of the Greek state is because this was denied to us.
Turks and British only won a battle in Cyprus. The war will never end until we win the right of freedom, self-determination and democracy on our own island.
Crikey, Parasite is on top form here folks ! He and his ilk keep on harping on about what Cypriots they are and he then effectively says that Greek Cypriots are Greek ! Leave the island then and join your fellow countrymen of Hellas.
I'll never forget a conversation that I had with a Greek girl from Selanik at university a few years ago. She said that like most Greeks she did not consider Greek Cypriots to be Greek. In fact she referred to them as, and I quote, 'Spoilt scum'. Says it all I guess.
By the way Bananiot is right. I'm not surprised he's been shot down by the Oxi lovers. Yes, extra attention was given to bringing Turkey and the TC's on side at the time of the previous negotiations prior to the referendum, but that was because a GC yes vote was taken as a given by the international community. The GC's had been harping on about re-unification for years and Papaplop gave a guarantee that he would deliver his community in a yes vote. Typically the two faced fascist reneged on this and cried his eyes out. The world was hoodwinked by your community's refusal to agree to the re-unification of Cyprus. I'm telling you now that over the next few years your refusal to accept the plan will be regarded as yet another 'disaster' that has befallen your community, one which like all of the others you could have prevented. I did not like certain elements of the Annan Plan but at least I had the political maturity to accept that at the end of the day it was a compromise, however bitter a pill. If you lot carry on wanting to eat all of the cake, then prepare for the next inevitable disaster for you, the recognition of the TRNC. I know I'll get a lot of the usual 'recognition's not going to happen' nonsensense and 'if we say no next time the TC's will continue to live in isolation' but wake up and see that we're coming to the end of a very long drawn out game whereby failure of the upcoming talks will lead to only one conclusion.
'Remove your life jacket and everything will be allright'.
Some Historical facts for you boy:
After 1400 B.C., Mycenaean and Mycenaean-Achaean traders from the northeastern Peloponnesus began regular commercial visits to the island. Settlers from the same areas arrived in large numbers toward the end of the Trojan War (traditionally dated about 1184 B.C.). Even in modern times, a strip of the northern coast was known as the Achaean Coast in commemoration of those early settlers. The newcomers spread the use of their spoken language and introduced a script that greatly facilitated commerce. They also introduced the potter's wheel and began producing pottery that eventually was carried by traders to many mainland markets. By the end of the second millennium B.C., a distinctive culture had developed on Cyprus. The island's culture was tempered and enriched by its position as a crossroads for the commerce of three continents, but in essence it was distinctively Hellenic.
In Cyprus the population is Greek like on every other Greek island, for 1000s of years. We speak Greek, we have Greek religion (Olympus Gods and then Orthodox Christianity) and we have a Greek culture. If you say that Cyprus is not Greek then Turkey is not Turkish and Enland is not English, since the culture/language of those people existed in the territories they currently occupy for far less time than we Greeks existed in Cyprus.
What is different in Cyprus than any other Greek island or the Greek mainland?
1) That it was occupied by various foreign rulers? No, the exact same thing happened to all other Greek territories.
2) That the Ottomans occupied Cyprus? No, the same happened to all other Greek islands and territories. In fact the Ottomans held Athens and most other Greek territories for a whole century more than they held Cyprus.
3) That a Muslim minority was created on the island during the Ottoman rule? No, the same happened in all other Greek islands and territories (and not only Greek, the Turks transferred their populations in all territories they conquered)
So what is different in Cyprus? The only difference is that we did not manage (yet) to liberate our Greek island from the foreign rulers. We started to fight for our right for freedom and liberation along with all other Greeks, and we will continue to fight for our freedom and self-determination.
During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.
The Annan plan was a US/UK plan made to solve the problems of Turkey, not of Cyprus. This is why you accepted it, and we rejected it. Very simple.
Keep dreaming about partition as you have done since the 50s.
