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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:25 am

miltiades wrote:
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DT. wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Its farcical they way the GCs still believe we were the aggressors as if everything started in 1974, just think of the population imbalance and suffering of TCs from 1963 onwards only then will you people understand who are the real aggressor.


you old fart of a propagandist you.



DT time you faced the music and got real, come and talk to some of the older TC generation who lived through GC aggression, you will soon chnage your tune. Dont believe everything they taught you in school.


You don't have to talk to old folks here. Middle aged men remember digging ditches when they were small kids in order to take cover from your planes dropping bombs. They will also tell you about convoys of villagers getting bombed while trying to escape.

I won't even start on your soldiers.


So you see the benefit of talking to these people, why not hear the story from the other side I think it would help your perspective 100%.

VP , I think you ought to find time and read Sevculs "OYSTERS WITHOUT PEARLS....., you may just discover there are two sides to a coin.


Ho believe me I do, thats why I always say GCs should also ask for safeguards.
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Postby DT. » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:27 am

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Its farcical they way the GCs still believe we were the aggressors as if everything started in 1974, just think of the population imbalance and suffering of TCs from 1963 onwards only then will you people understand who are the real aggressor.


you old fart of a propagandist you.



DT time you faced the music and got real, come and talk to some of the older TC generation who lived through GC aggression, you will soon chnage your tune. Dont believe everything they taught you in school.


You don't have to talk to old folks here. Middle aged men remember digging ditches when they were small kids in order to take cover from your planes dropping bombs. They will also tell you about convoys of villagers getting bombed while trying to escape.

I won't even start on your soldiers.


So you see the benefit of talking to these people, why not hear the story from the other side I think it would help your perspective 100%.


I would very much like to talk with them. Have never denied or ignored the hardships some TC's went through. BUT we must keep things in perspective here. The magnitude of pain and suffering can never and should never be equated between the 2 communities. Regardless of how harsh individual cases have been for tc's you need to remember that just as many Gc's were murdered in that period as well. Why does no one ever mention them?

And to top it all off the fact that a full scale invasion with F5 jets dropping bombs and napalm is mysteriously forgotten and renamed a peace operation by some on this forum is an insult to every GC on this island. People died....more people died than all the murdered TC's had 63 been repeated 20-30 times.

The TC's suffered, no question about it but the GC's have cornered the market on this island when it comes to loss.

Next settler to come on this forum and make out that the TC's are the only victims on this island and you're gonna see a lot more moderate GC's start changing their tune around here, cause I believe that we've put up enough with this shit.

Either cut it out or you shall be reminded of the bombed General Hospital and the sick napalmed bodies hanging out of it at every chance we get. You may reciprocate and we can go on forever on this morbid competition of suffering.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:35 am

DT. wrote:
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DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Its farcical they way the GCs still believe we were the aggressors as if everything started in 1974, just think of the population imbalance and suffering of TCs from 1963 onwards only then will you people understand who are the real aggressor.


you old fart of a propagandist you.



DT time you faced the music and got real, come and talk to some of the older TC generation who lived through GC aggression, you will soon chnage your tune. Dont believe everything they taught you in school.


You don't have to talk to old folks here. Middle aged men remember digging ditches when they were small kids in order to take cover from your planes dropping bombs. They will also tell you about convoys of villagers getting bombed while trying to escape.

I won't even start on your soldiers.


So you see the benefit of talking to these people, why not hear the story from the other side I think it would help your perspective 100%.


I would very much like to talk with them. Have never denied or ignored the hardships some TC's went through. BUT we must keep things in perspective here. The magnitude of pain and suffering can never and should never be equated between the 2 communities. Regardless of how harsh individual cases have been for tc's you need to remember that just as many Gc's were murdered in that period as well. Why does no one ever mention them?

And to top it all off the fact that a full scale invasion with F5 jets dropping bombs and napalm is mysteriously forgotten and renamed a peace operation by some on this forum is an insult to every GC on this island. People died....more people died than all the murdered TC's had 63 been repeated 20-30 times.

The TC's suffered, no question about it but the GC's have cornered the market on this island when it comes to loss.

Next settler to come on this forum and make out that the TC's are the only victims on this island and you're gonna see a lot more moderate GC's start changing their tune around here, cause I believe that we've put up enough with this shit.

Either cut it out or you shall be reminded of the bombed General Hospital and the sick napalmed bodies hanging out of it at every chance we get. You may reciprocate and we can go on forever on this morbid competition of suffering.


Do you have actual details of names and people who were killed, GCs like to play with figures and show the worst case, dont forget many GCs died duing the coup. Do you have any sites or independent links to back up your claims?
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:51 am

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Do you have actual details of names and people who were killed, GCs like to play with figures and show the worst case, dont forget many GCs died duing the coup. Do you have any sites or independent links to back up your claims?


dont forget many GCs died duing the coup.


What, GC's were actually dying to prevent the coupist from having ENOSIS with Greece.!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

VP, are you not proud of those GC's who died, along with TC's, who tried to save Cyprus from ENOSIS.??
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:59 am

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Do you have actual details of names and people who were killed, GCs like to play with figures and show the worst case, dont forget many GCs died duing the coup. Do you have any sites or independent links to back up your claims?


dont forget many GCs died duing the coup.


What, GC's were actually dying to prevent the coupist from having ENOSIS with Greece.!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

VP, are you not proud of those GC's who died, along with TC's, who tried to save Cyprus from ENOSIS.??



I was told first hand that many AKEL supporters were butchered by the coupists in Varosha and that the streets were full of victims. The hospitals were unable to cope. Source a TC nurse from the General Hospital . Varosha.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:59 am

Kikapu wrote:
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Do you have actual details of names and people who were killed, GCs like to play with figures and show the worst case, dont forget many GCs died duing the coup. Do you have any sites or independent links to back up your claims?


dont forget many GCs died duing the coup.


What, GC's were actually dying to prevent the coupist from having ENOSIS with Greece.!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

VP, are you not proud of those GC's who died, along with TC's, who tried to save Cyprus from ENOSIS.??


Yes I am.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:12 am

Viewpoint wrote:
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Do you have actual details of names and people who were killed, GCs like to play with figures and show the worst case, dont forget many GCs died duing the coup. Do you have any sites or independent links to back up your claims?


dont forget many GCs died duing the coup.


What, GC's were actually dying to prevent the coupist from having ENOSIS with Greece.!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

VP, are you not proud of those GC's who died, along with TC's, who tried to save Cyprus from ENOSIS.??


Yes I am.



Is it not true that those members of the AKEL party were not combatants? Most died just because of their political views. Thats democracy. Damn coupists. They ruined our island.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:19 am

Viewpoint wrote:
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Do you have actual details of names and people who were killed, GCs like to play with figures and show the worst case, dont forget many GCs died duing the coup. Do you have any sites or independent links to back up your claims?


dont forget many GCs died duing the coup.


What, GC's were actually dying to prevent the coupist from having ENOSIS with Greece.!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

VP, are you not proud of those GC's who died, along with TC's, who tried to save Cyprus from ENOSIS.??


Yes I am.


Then stop accusing all GC's in wanting ENOSIS, as you try to do each time in trying to defend your "partition dreams" .!!
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:59 am

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Do you have actual details of names and people who were killed, GCs like to play with figures and show the worst case, dont forget many GCs died duing the coup. Do you have any sites or independent links to back up your claims?


dont forget many GCs died duing the coup.


What, GC's were actually dying to prevent the coupist from having ENOSIS with Greece.!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

VP, are you not proud of those GC's who died, along with TC's, who tried to save Cyprus from ENOSIS.??


Yes I am.


Then stop accusing all GC's in wanting ENOSIS, as you try to do each time in trying to defend your "partition dreams" .!!



Kikapu, are you a lawyer? That was pure 'entrapment'. I better watch you. I might learn something.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:27 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Do you have actual details of names and people who were killed, GCs like to play with figures and show the worst case, dont forget many GCs died duing the coup. Do you have any sites or independent links to back up your claims?


dont forget many GCs died duing the coup.


What, GC's were actually dying to prevent the coupist from having ENOSIS with Greece.!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

VP, are you not proud of those GC's who died, along with TC's, who tried to save Cyprus from ENOSIS.??


Yes I am.


Then stop accusing all GC's in wanting ENOSIS, as you try to do each time in trying to defend your "partition dreams" .!!



Kikapu, are you a lawyer? That was pure 'entrapment'. I better watch you. I might learn something.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Entrapment yes, but not in a legal sense, but rather an old fashion entrapment in the game of chess, as in "Check-Mate".!!
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