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[RichardB]

Hello, this is my first post and I am glad I can agree with what you say about Britain, if it was not for them there would be peace in lots of places that now have wars. America and Britain are the biggest lying gits on earth.
But when it comes to the thieving and scamming tricks, I think the Turks take the biscuit.
I have been to Apostolos Andreas and I think the Turkish market should be snuffed out with all those who have turned the place into a thieves kitchen.

Good Man

Welcome to the forum

Richard dear ... do not be taken in too quickly ..

There are a few Turks coming on here trying to divide the Cypriots and the British now that they are beginning to finally put their past misdemeanors (the little regrettable matter of divide and rule) behind them.

The modern way is to remind ourselves that Cyprus and Britain are EU partners, hence allies against the Turks when push comes to shove.

I've tried to put MedByz to rights above, regarding our present kinship with the Brits ... who are finally signing in all the right places.

Thankyou for your advise O

I will no be taken in too quickly I am well aware of some of the things lurking in the background

I will take each post at face value until when and if a fake is exposed then with all guns blazing I will be right behind you [/b]

[Oracle]

I don't think the British have changed there mind much about dividing and ruling even if they are in the EU, do you think that what they are doing in Iraq and other places is anything other than the same old game.

Iraq is not an EU partner of the British ...

Good try

[Maynard23]

Does that mean that in order to be divided and ruled, the country must be a member of the EU then.

[Piratis]

The modern way is to remind ourselves that Cyprus and Britain are EU partners, hence allies against the Turks when push comes to shove.

The truth is that Turks and British are the allies and this has been so for many decades under the guidance of the Americans.

Why do you think the TCs today believe that they are the super minority (or even the oxymoron that they are not a minority at all) and that they deserve disproportionately large amounts of land and power on our loss? Do you think the TCs by themselves would start demanding such unfair things?

The TCs demand such things because Britain and Turkey promise to them that they can have such gains if they collaborate with them in order to stop Cyprus from archiving a true self-determination. That is called "divide and rule" and they do it as much today as they did it in the 50s.

[Oracle]

The modern way is to remind ourselves that Cyprus and Britain are EU partners, hence allies against the Turks when push comes to shove.

The truth is that Turks and British are the allies and this has been so for many decades under the guidance of the Americans.

Why do you think the TCs today believe that they are the super minority (or even the oxymoron that they are not a minority at all) and that they deserve disproportionately large amounts of land and power on our loss? Do you think the TCs by themselves would start demanding such unfair things?

The TCs demand such things because Britain and Turkey promise to them that they can have such gains if they collaborate with them in order to stop Cyprus from archiving a true self-determination. That is called "divide and rule" and they do it as much today as they did it in the 50s.

Piratis .... I know what the British did in the past with divide and rule of TCs and GCs.

But why do you think the Turks are getting worried now that the Cypriots and British may find common ground to move away from the past and behave like EU partners in the future?

This is just the impression I have.

Being cynical I am worried that just as the Turks try to divide and rule Greeks and Cypriots (by denying our Hellenic ancestry) they might also try and divide and rule the British and Cypriots now they are both EU members

As a tactic "d & r" can be used by anyone, and we know the Turks used it just as effectively as the Brits did in the past.

[Oracle]

Does that mean that in order to be divided and ruled, the country must be a member of the EU then.

No, on the contrary! I was suggesting that because Cyprus is in the EU and hence already a partner of Britain .... on what grounds would you suggest Britain would continue to divide and rule in Cyprus ?... bit like shooting themselves in the foot.

Maybe that is why they picked on Iraq because it is an "outsider" .....

(BTW .... I protested against UK going to Iraq on the pretext of WMD .. so I am not condoning their presence .... just trying to get to the bottom of why you think UK would continue to divide and rule in Cyprus).

[Piratis]

The modern way is to remind ourselves that Cyprus and Britain are EU partners, hence allies against the Turks when push comes to shove.

The truth is that Turks and British are the allies and this has been so for many decades under the guidance of the Americans.

Why do you think the TCs today believe that they are the super minority (or even the oxymoron that they are not a minority at all) and that they deserve disproportionately large amounts of land and power on our loss? Do you think the TCs by themselves would start demanding such unfair things?

The TCs demand such things because Britain and Turkey promise to them that they can have such gains if they collaborate with them in order to stop Cyprus from archiving a true self-determination. That is called "divide and rule" and they do it as much today as they did it in the 50s.

Piratis .... I know what the British did in the past with divide and rule of TCs and GCs.

But why do you think the Turks are getting worried now that the Cypriots and British may find common ground to move away from the past and behave like EU partners in the future?

This is just the impression I have.

Being cynical I am worried that just as the Turks try to divide and rule Greeks and Cypriots (by denying our Hellenic ancestry) they might also try and divide and rule the British and Cypriots now they are both EU members

As a tactic "d & r" can be used by anyone, and we know the Turks used it just as effectively as the Brits did in the past.

To divide something it needs to be united. We have never been "united" with the British.

Of course in theory we should have been united within EU, but in practice things are very different.

[Oracle]

Yes but if the EU was to try and forcefully remove Turkey from EU territory ... would the British still "ally" with the Turks?

[Piratis]

Yes but if the EU was to try and forcefully remove Turkey from EU territory ... would the British still "ally" with the Turks?

That is very theoretical because EU wouldn't do such thing.

But it is very obvious to me that if the UK had to choose between EU and US they would choose the US.

[Maynard23]

I think the British have already managed to divide Cyprus, the ruling bit will take place when the whole of Cyprus is in the EU and all the best traditions of the Cypriot people will be a thing of the past.
No matter what talks are taking place now, I think the future of Cyprus was decided a long time ago and Cyprus will be just a small voice in a large crowd.