Cyprus-Forum.com

[Sotos]

My name may be Turkish, and so was my Grandfather's, however, my maternal Grandfather spoke Greek. the only thing that made us "TURKISH" were our names. Other than that, I eat pork, drink alcohol, indulge in certain things, so I dont think it is a Turkish and Greek issue in Cyprus, but a religeous one that has divided the people who once lived peacefully side by side on the island.

Maybe. Cyprus was Christian for 1500 years before the Muslims invaded us. If the Ottomans had made their empire over Muslim lands then maybe there wouldn't be any problems today.

Or at least if when they conquered the Christian lands they didn't transfer their Muslim populations in them! That would mean that when their empire was over the problems would be over also!

[Oracle]

My name may be Turkish, and so was my Grandfather's, however, my maternal Grandfather spoke Greek. the only thing that made us "TURKISH" were our names. Other than that, I eat pork, drink alcohol, indulge in certain things, so I dont think it is a Turkish and Greek issue in Cyprus, but a religeous one that has divided the people who once lived peacefully side by side on the island.

It may have been religion once, but nowadays it is a matter of the Cypriots being staunch observers of Human Rights and Turks being the worst abusers of Human Rights.

That divides us today. Morality.

[MedByzantine]

Who are the indigenous people of Cyprus? That is more important. Sadly Cyprus changed it’s identity many times, with various people colonising it, from the Phoenicians, Assyrians, Egyptians, Romans, Byzantines, Crusaders, Maronites, Venetians, Ottomans, then under the rule of the British Empire. As history has proved, wherever the British Empire colonised in the 18th and 19th Centuries, they left it in a mess once the British Empire had to pull out of certain colonies after World War II. The British Empire would leave exit its colonies in such a way that the once peaceful natives would become bitter enemies with internal conflict; key examples, all of the Arabian Gulf, India, Pakistan, Persia, Palestine, South Africa, Rhodesia now Zimbabwe, and of course Cyprus. The British Empire always had, and still have to this day a policy of divide and rule, and still when doing business overseas still have that colonial mentality.

Being a Cypriot is a State of Mind and a Cypriot should not be defined by religion. Cyprus should not be a strategic point or a stepping stone to the Middle East or Eastern Mediterranean for any northern European power, and Cypriots and their best interests should not be used like pawns in any political or economic game by some Northern European Political Science Graduate who has never lived on the island, or even have any concept of living on an island with such a fascinating history. No single person has claim to Cyprus, all people in the Eastern Mediterranean have a claim to Cyprus.

[Tim Drayton]

Who are the indigenous people of Cyprus? That is more important. Sadly Cyprus changed it’s identity many times, with various people colonising it, from the Phoenicians, Assyrians, Egyptians, Romans, Byzantines, Crusaders, Maronites, Venetians, Ottomans, then under the rule of the British Empire. As we history has proved, wherever the British Empire colonised in the 18th and 19th Centuries, they left it in a mess once the British Empire had to pull out of certain colonies after World War II. The British Empire would leave exit its colonies in such a way that the once peaceful natives would become bitter enemies with internal conflict; key examples, all of the Arabian Gulf, India, Pakistan, Persia, Palestine, South Africa, Rhodesia now Zimbabwe, and of course Cyprus. The British Empire always had, and still have to this day a policy of divide and rule, and still when doing business overseas still have that colonial mentality.

Don't forget Sri Lanka, perhaps the most tragic legacy of British 'divide and rule' tactics.

[Maynard23]

Hello, this is my first post and I am glad I can agree with what you say about Britain, if it was not for them there would be peace in lots of places that now have wars. America and Britain are the biggest lying gits on earth.
But when it comes to the thieving and scamming tricks, I think the Turks take the biscuit.
I have been to Apostolos Andreas and I think the Turkish market should be snuffed out with all those who have turned the place into a thieves kitchen.

[Oracle]

Who are the indigenous people of Cyprus? That is more important. Sadly Cyprus changed it’s identity many times, with various people colonising it, from the Phoenicians, Assyrians, Egyptians, Romans, Byzantines, Crusaders, Maronites, Venetians, Ottomans, then under the rule of the British Empire. As history has proved, wherever the British Empire colonised in the 18th and 19th Centuries, they left it in a mess once the British Empire had to pull out of certain colonies after World War II. The British Empire would leave exit its colonies in such a way that the once peaceful natives would become bitter enemies with internal conflict; key examples, all of the Arabian Gulf, India, Pakistan, Persia, Palestine, South Africa, Rhodesia now Zimbabwe, and of course Cyprus. The British Empire always had, and still have to this day a policy of divide and rule, and still when doing business overseas still have that colonial mentality.

Being a Cypriot is a State of Mind and a Cypriot should not be defined by religion. Cyprus should not be a strategic point or a stepping stone to the Middle East or Eastern Mediterranean for any northern European power, and Cypriots and their best interests should not be used like pawns in any political or economic game by some Northern European Political Science Graduate who has never lived on the island, or even have any concept of living on an island with such a fascinating history. No single person has claim to Cyprus, all people in the Eastern Mediterranean have a claim to Cyprus.

What a lot of utter garbage!

No one is defining Cypriot by religion. The divide and rule carried out by the British is now in the past.

We are part of Europe, hence partners with Britain. We are dictated to by Human Rights Laws which we respect as part of Democracy ... none of these appeal to the Turks who wish to extend their rule over Cyprus despite international requests.

Hence fundamentally ... the present problem is down to the Morality differences between the Law observing RoC and the flouters in Turkey!

This is the unyielding difference which is at the heart of the Cyprus Problem NOW ... which you are avoiding by going round the houses!

[RichardB]

Hello, this is my first post and I am glad I can agree with what you say about Britain, if it was not for them there would be peace in lots of places that now have wars. America and Britain are the biggest lying gits on earth.
But when it comes to the thieving and scamming tricks, I think the Turks take the biscuit.
I have been to Apostolos Andreas and I think the Turkish market should be snuffed out with all those who have turned the place into a thieves kitchen.

Good Man

Welcome to the forum

[Maynard23]

Thanks mate, I am such a good man that I think I wrote in the wrong section, my opinion is the same but I think it should have been where you are up in arms about the Turks conning the public at the Apostolos Andreas.

[Oracle]

Hello, this is my first post and I am glad I can agree with what you say about Britain, if it was not for them there would be peace in lots of places that now have wars. America and Britain are the biggest lying gits on earth.
But when it comes to the thieving and scamming tricks, I think the Turks take the biscuit.
I have been to Apostolos Andreas and I think the Turkish market should be snuffed out with all those who have turned the place into a thieves kitchen.

Good Man

Welcome to the forum

Richard dear ... do not be taken in too quickly ..

There are a few Turks coming on here trying to divide the Cypriots and the British now that they are beginning to finally put their past misdemeanors (the little regrettable matter of divide and rule) behind them.

The modern way is to remind ourselves that Cyprus and Britain are EU partners, hence allies against the Turks when push comes to shove.

I've tried to put MedByz to rights above, regarding our present kinship with the Brits ... who are finally signing in all the right places.

[Maynard23]

I don't think the British have changed there mind much about dividing and ruling even if they are in the EU, do you think that what they are doing in Iraq and other places is anything other than the same old game.