The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Why Turks exist on our island?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Re: Why Turks exist on our island?

Postby EPSILON » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:29 pm

umit07 wrote:
Sotos wrote:Answer: Because they invaded us to kill us and take our lands. Then they say that they can not live with us. F**k off to were you came from then! If you can't live with Cypriots then you shouldn't be in Cyprus! Simple! Who gave you the right to take OUR lands because you don't want to live with us???? Nobody! You are acting criminally and illegally! Either assimilate in Cyprus and learn to live along with Cypriots or go from where you came from! :evil: :arrow:


KICK US OUT! :lol: :lol:


Do not be in harry..No need for us to kick you out-you are going to dot yourselves.!!!!!
User avatar
EPSILON
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 2851
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 2:28 pm
Location: ATHENS

Postby EPSILON » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:32 pm

soyer wrote:Who would make friend with Sotos. He is a Villaga Idiot.


And you are just a Mongolian frique who by luck appeared in the area
User avatar
EPSILON
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 2851
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 2:28 pm
Location: ATHENS

Postby EPSILON » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:35 pm

lovernomore wrote:
Sotos wrote:
lovernomore wrote:
Sotos wrote:
lovernomore wrote:
Sotos wrote::roll: Only a retard or a Turk could deny that the reason Turks exist on our island is the expansionism of Turks against Cyprus. You are both a retard and a Turk so no surprises there.


Sotos,
do you have any TC frends?

lets see, my friends are from my neighborhood and I grew up in a refugee neighborhood that only had GCs because the Turks forced us out of our homes. My other friends are from school but again the Turks wanted to be separate from us, so no TCs there either. So no, I don't have any TCs friends because TCs do not want us as friends but they want to be our enemies and take our lands. They are just Turks that help Turkey with their expansionism against our island! That is why they were brought here in the first place!


I think you should give Tcs a chanse. maybe meet some when Tcs come to south or you maybe travel north and have tea or kofee with them. They wil not hurt you and you miight see how they reely are. thy are not all bad you now.

Tea and coffee? What I want is my land not some freaking tea! You keep my home and you give me tea and that should make you all nice? :roll: And that is besides the point anyways. Don't Turks exist in Cyprus because of Turkish expansionism against Cyprus? If Turks can not live along with Cypriots as they say then why they came? Why they keep bringing more and more of them here?


Sotos, you must change atutude, you will get propert back but you must tollerant to your TC negbours. You show no respect to them and you treet them like shit. How you expect simpati from them? They did not intensonally take your property, it was war and you end in south the Tc in north. one day everything is allright and you msut live together.


TC Negbours!!!!Just old invators/shelters , mixed up with new invators/shelters and bacame our brothers and sisters-all together.

I will consider the case to change Nationality and be Turk.It seems that they became much more clever from us- Invate, steeling, murduring and then speaches about brothers and sisters and aggouria tis chlorakas.
User avatar
EPSILON
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 2851
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 2:28 pm
Location: ATHENS

Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:37 pm

lovernomore wrote:
Oracle wrote:Sad but 100% true ....

You no like ... then behave better ... :evil:

Why do you think I am on this forum ... because I have met nice Turks ... NO!

I have only ever met Turks that are nice when it suits them ... I do not like this fact just as I do not like many other facts .. but I can accept facts!


100% BULLSHIT.


So are your reasons for being in Cyprus ...

... what are you afraid of? ... That I have some school stories that prove Turks do not fit in with Europeans ... my friend there are plenty .....

Europeans are starting to drop the "PC" reasons for treating Turks carefully ... You have to start facing the truth... You are not wonderful Human beings!
User avatar
Oracle
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 23507
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:13 am
Location: Anywhere but...

Postby miltiades » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:39 pm

I'm a proud G/C who has lived through the EOKA liberation struggle and who is proud to have participated in a small way in the justified warfare against the British. My older brother served as a full EOKA member and all our family were proud of his contribution.
I have said many times before that there is nothing untoward about the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people demanding their right to self determination and when all else failed to adopt military action against the oppressors.
With hindsight , and just as Makarios subsequently rejected the ENOSIS dream , so did I and thousands upon thousands of G/Cs.
We made many mistakes not least in our determination so soon after independence to proceed with modifications to the Zurich agreements that we signed , willingly or under pressure the fact is that not enough time was allowed for the new nation to establish it self.
The T/Cs have been in Cyprus since 1571 , how they came to be in Cyprus is now irrelevant , they are here and here they will remain for they too consider this island to be theirs too. They have also made huge errors and the moderates and thinkers amongst them are accepting these "misdemeanours" .
Those of us , either G/Cs or T/Cs who have not had the opportunity to interact are naturally prone to preconceived misconceptions, skepticisms and mistrustful of the other side.

I have met literary 100s of T/Cs , went to college with them in this country , UK, argued with them and endeavoured , just as they did , to understand their side of the story AS THEY IN TURN WOULD UNDERSATND MINE.
Over the years I have retained friendships some stretching back more than 40 years , the acid test came 34 years ago when all hell erupted in Cyprus . I denounced from day one the military coup orchestrated by the Greek junta and the subsequent invasion by Turkey. It may surprise some that I was in Famagusta in July of 1974 .
I denounce today the continued occupation of the Northern part of our island by Turkey , but I WILL NEVER HATE MY COMPATRIOTS , I KNOW TOO MANY DECENT FAMILY ORIENTATED T/Cs and will NEVER allow my self to become intoxicated by those that continually denigrate anything T/C .
We must negotiate a solution within the diplomatic parameters available to us and we must face realities just as the T/Cs also must , this island is ours , and theirs , together through diplomatic energies we can solve it.
Let me just prove some of the powers of diplomacy , I may be putting my head on the block but let it be so.
Most of you on this forum know of my loathing of anything divisive and I have always taken to task those displaying either the Greek or Turkish flag since I have always felt that as Cypriots we must not antagonize each other but work towards building bridges of trust so that us , and the new generation of Cypriots , the little babies we all so proudly posted on this very forum will grow up free from the fear of conflict blood and tears.
Why am I putting my head on the block ? To prove that if you reach out and you are sincere the other side will reciprocate.
One T/C on this forum has had an unfair amount of "jibes" about his avatar by yours truly , I'm now asking him kindly to replace it , as a mark of respect for all Cypriots and all the little ones who just want to grow up in a peaceful island . By complying he shall prove that the process of achieving the utmost must be carried out in an atmosphere of good will and cooperation.
User avatar
miltiades
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 19837
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:01 pm

Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:43 pm

The more one drinks ... the better Turks appear!
User avatar
Oracle
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 23507
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:13 am
Location: Anywhere but...

Postby EPSILON » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:44 pm

miltiades wrote:I'm a proud G/C who has lived through the EOKA liberation struggle and who is proud to have participated in a small way in the justified warfare against the British. My older brother served as a full EOKA member and all our family were proud of his contribution.
I have said many times before that there is nothing untoward about the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people demanding their right to self determination and when all else failed to adopt military action against the oppressors.
With hindsight , and just as Makarios subsequently rejected the ENOSIS dream , so did I and thousands upon thousands of G/Cs.
We made many mistakes not least in our determination so soon after independence to proceed with modifications to the Zurich agreements that we signed , willingly or under pressure the fact is that not enough time was allowed for the new nation to establish it self.
The T/Cs have been in Cyprus since 1571 , how they came to be in Cyprus is now irrelevant , they are here and here they will remain for they too consider this island to be theirs too. They have also made huge errors and the moderates and thinkers amongst them are accepting these "misdemeanours" .
Those of us , either G/Cs or T/Cs who have not had the opportunity to interact are naturally prone to preconceived misconceptions, skepticisms and mistrustful of the other side.

I have met literary 100s of T/Cs , went to college with them in this country , UK, argued with them and endeavoured , just as they did , to understand their side of the story AS THEY IN TURN WOULD UNDERSATND MINE.
Over the years I have retained friendships some stretching back more than 40 years , the acid test came 34 years ago when all hell erupted in Cyprus . I denounced from day one the military coup orchestrated by the Greek junta and the subsequent invasion by Turkey. It may surprise some that I was in Famagusta in July of 1974 .
I denounce today the continued occupation of the Northern part of our island by Turkey , but I WILL NEVER HATE MY COMPATRIOTS , I KNOW TOO MANY DECENT FAMILY ORIENTATED T/Cs and will NEVER allow my self to become intoxicated by those that continually denigrate anything T/C .
We must negotiate a solution within the diplomatic parameters available to us and we must face realities just as the T/Cs also must , this island is ours , and theirs , together through diplomatic energies we can solve it.
Let me just prove some of the powers of diplomacy , I may be putting my head on the block but let it be so.
Most of you on this forum know of my loathing of anything divisive and I have always taken to task those displaying either the Greek or Turkish flag since I have always felt that as Cypriots we must not antagonize each other but work towards building bridges of trust so that us , and the new generation of Cypriots , the little babies we all so proudly posted on this very forum will grow up free from the fear of conflict blood and tears.
Why am I putting my head on the block ? To prove that if you reach out and you are sincere the other side will reciprocate.
One T/C on this forum has had an unfair amount of "jibes" about his avatar by yours truly , I'm now asking him kindly to replace it , as a mark of respect for all Cypriots and all the little ones who just want to grow up in a peaceful island . By complying he shall prove that the process of achieving the utmost must be carried out in an atmosphere of good will and cooperation.


The discusion became serious now

My first comment is that may be the chief of invasion army is crying now,reading this brothers and sisters theory above.
User avatar
EPSILON
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 2851
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 2:28 pm
Location: ATHENS

Postby EPSILON » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:00 pm

miltiades wrote:I'm a proud G/C who has lived through the EOKA liberation struggle and who is proud to have participated in a small way in the justified warfare against the British. My older brother served as a full EOKA member and all our family were proud of his contribution.
I have said many times before that there is nothing untoward about the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people demanding their right to self determination and when all else failed to adopt military action against the oppressors.
With hindsight , and just as Makarios subsequently rejected the ENOSIS dream , so did I and thousands upon thousands of G/Cs.
We made many mistakes not least in our determination so soon after independence to proceed with modifications to the Zurich agreements that we signed , willingly or under pressure the fact is that not enough time was allowed for the new nation to establish it self.
The T/Cs have been in Cyprus since 1571 , how they came to be in Cyprus is now irrelevant , they are here and here they will remain for they too consider this island to be theirs too. They have also made huge errors and the moderates and thinkers amongst them are accepting these "misdemeanours" .
Those of us , either G/Cs or T/Cs who have not had the opportunity to interact are naturally prone to preconceived misconceptions, skepticisms and mistrustful of the other side.

I have met literary 100s of T/Cs , went to college with them in this country , UK, argued with them and endeavoured , just as they did , to understand their side of the story AS THEY IN TURN WOULD UNDERSATND MINE.
Over the years I have retained friendships some stretching back more than 40 years , the acid test came 34 years ago when all hell erupted in Cyprus . I denounced from day one the military coup orchestrated by the Greek junta and the subsequent invasion by Turkey. It may surprise some that I was in Famagusta in July of 1974 .
I denounce today the continued occupation of the Northern part of our island by Turkey , but I WILL NEVER HATE MY COMPATRIOTS , I KNOW TOO MANY DECENT FAMILY ORIENTATED T/Cs and will NEVER allow my self to become intoxicated by those that continually denigrate anything T/C .
We must negotiate a solution within the diplomatic parameters available to us and we must face realities just as the T/Cs also must , this island is ours , and theirs , together through diplomatic energies we can solve it.
Let me just prove some of the powers of diplomacy , I may be putting my head on the block but let it be so.
Most of you on this forum know of my loathing of anything divisive and I have always taken to task those displaying either the Greek or Turkish flag since I have always felt that as Cypriots we must not antagonize each other but work towards building bridges of trust so that us , and the new generation of Cypriots , the little babies we all so proudly posted on this very forum will grow up free from the fear of conflict blood and tears.
Why am I putting my head on the block ? To prove that if you reach out and you are sincere the other side will reciprocate.
One T/C on this forum has had an unfair amount of "jibes" about his avatar by yours truly , I'm now asking him kindly to replace it , as a mark of respect for all Cypriots and all the little ones who just want to grow up in a peaceful island . By complying he shall prove that the process of achieving the utmost must be carried out in an atmosphere of good will and cooperation.


Sorry but my computer sen my reply before i finish nd without my order!!!

as i was ritting the chief of Turkish army is crying by this justise for both sides, declaring equality on mistakes and erros.

MY QUSTION I HY ALL THESE, like Meltiades, stsring the story from EOKA period onward?

Why it was inlegal or wrong the population of Cyprus to request ENOSIS bfore 55?

What was not their right ,in line with any known interntional law?

Who was fighting this right? The occupators, British, and their co-operators T/cs. What someone could expect from this population , to sit down watching occupators and their cooperators to demolish its dreams and destiny? Did they have the right to fight by any means?

Of ourse, sudently and with the famous Zurich T/cs became co-controlers of the ISLAND, FROM NO WHERE , just because British decided so.

Now peacful Island. The invators/shelters, old and new, to keep what they got and to be also partners in what is left. There is only one solution-we are going there directly and despite what name they will give to this solution the result is known in advance.

The distance from, Meltiades way, from Greek of Cyprus to simple Cypriot , brother of T/cs it seems it was farther than from Simple Cypriot to Turk of Cyprus.


Impros/Tenedos are very good examples of how a peaceful agreement between brothers/sisters Nations can be ended if the one Nation is Turkey.
User avatar
EPSILON
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 2851
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 2:28 pm
Location: ATHENS

Postby miltiades » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:02 pm

I do not have much respect , if any at all for those that deny me my ancestry , so take your Greek Republic of Cyprus and activate it somewhere on mount Olympus !!!
User avatar
miltiades
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 19837
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:01 pm

Postby EPSILON » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:06 pm

miltiades wrote:I do not have much respect , if any at all for those that deny me my ancestry , so take your Greek Republic of Cyprus and activate it somewhere on mount Olympus !!!


No i prefer to have it as label in Cyprus until TRNC be activated somewhere else, lets say in Anatolia. one day Meltiades i will make you to understand
User avatar
EPSILON
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 2851
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 2:28 pm
Location: ATHENS

PreviousNext

Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests