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Postby ttoli » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:50 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
ttoli wrote:The flag was built by the survivors of Taskent (Tochni) when they were evacuated to Vouno (renamed Taskent in memory).

Details of the atrocity are as follows.
Taskent (Tokhni) was a mixed village in the south near Limassol, which was struck with a massive tragedy on Aug. 14, 1974. All the able-bodied men from the village, ages ranging from 13 to 74, were taken away by Greeks and Greek Cypriots and massacred along with 15 other Turkish Cypriot boys and men from the villages of Tatlisu (Mari) and Terazi (Zyyi).

These Turkish Cypriot men were first taken to the Greek primary school in the village where there were some Greek mainland officers. The next day they were loaded onto two buses and driven off. The first bus left in the morning, the second in the early afternoon. They were told they were being taken to a prisoner of war camp. Altogether 89 boys and men were sent away on the two buses.

The sole survivor of the massacre was Suat Huseyin Kafadar, aged 19, from the village Taskent (Tokhni).

"We came to a field, I don't know where it was, and were ordered out," said Suat. "The Greeks came round, ordering us to hand over our watches, ID cards, etc. They told us we could have a smoke and many of us lit cigarettes.

"Suddenly, without any warning, they opened fire on us with automatic weapons and mowed us down. I was hit several times and fell and lay in a pile of other men. I was still conscious and was aware that the Greeks were walking in among the bodies, shooting men in the head, making sure they were dead.

"But when they came to me they went past. After a while they went away and I managed to pull myself out from under several bodies. I found out why the Greeks had thought I was dead. My head was covered by the brains of the man on top of me!

"As I was crawling away from that awful place, I saw two other men who were still alive. I went to them and started to help them to get away, too, but one of them told me to leave them, they were finished, they'd never escape before the Greeks came back.

"Get away, tell everyone what happened here," he ordered me. It took me several days, hiding during the day, to reach a Turkish village and learn that I was the only survivor of the Taskent massacre."

When Suat's story became known the United Nations tried to investigate, but the Greek Cypriots refused to tell them anything or show them the massacre spot. It was assumed that the other bus load of men had also been machine gunned to death for they were never seen again. It was also believed that the bodies had been covered by bulldozers as no trace was found and this seemed to be the method by which the Greeks were burying their Turkish victims.

The women of Taskent (Tokhni) could only be evacuated on Oct. 25, 1974, by UNFICYP to Northern Cyprus, and the village was reconstituted under the same name near Lefkosa. The existence of a mass grave in South Cyprus where the male population of Taskent (Tokhni), Tatlisu (Mari) and Terazi (Zyyi) is known to have been buried was confirmed by UNFICYP.


For the sake of some kind of balance, any chance of telling us the circumstances under which some 6,000 of the former inhabitants of the Occupied Territories were murdered by the Turkish Army and their supporters in 1974 please Toli.
Bill, No doubt attrocities were carried out by both sides, I have no reason to doubt you, My reason for posting was to answer the Original question of Why the flag is there in the first place.
The majority of forum posters try to portray a 'Holier than thou' attitude, and lay blame 100% at the feet of the TC and Turkey, refreshing to find that not all posters on this forum share that selective memory.
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:54 pm

ttoli wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
ttoli wrote:The flag was built by the survivors of Taskent (Tochni) when they were evacuated to Vouno (renamed Taskent in memory).

Details of the atrocity are as follows.
Taskent (Tokhni) was a mixed village in the south near Limassol, which was struck with a massive tragedy on Aug. 14, 1974. All the able-bodied men from the village, ages ranging from 13 to 74, were taken away by Greeks and Greek Cypriots and massacred along with 15 other Turkish Cypriot boys and men from the villages of Tatlisu (Mari) and Terazi (Zyyi).

These Turkish Cypriot men were first taken to the Greek primary school in the village where there were some Greek mainland officers. The next day they were loaded onto two buses and driven off. The first bus left in the morning, the second in the early afternoon. They were told they were being taken to a prisoner of war camp. Altogether 89 boys and men were sent away on the two buses.

The sole survivor of the massacre was Suat Huseyin Kafadar, aged 19, from the village Taskent (Tokhni).

"We came to a field, I don't know where it was, and were ordered out," said Suat. "The Greeks came round, ordering us to hand over our watches, ID cards, etc. They told us we could have a smoke and many of us lit cigarettes.

"Suddenly, without any warning, they opened fire on us with automatic weapons and mowed us down. I was hit several times and fell and lay in a pile of other men. I was still conscious and was aware that the Greeks were walking in among the bodies, shooting men in the head, making sure they were dead.

"But when they came to me they went past. After a while they went away and I managed to pull myself out from under several bodies. I found out why the Greeks had thought I was dead. My head was covered by the brains of the man on top of me!

"As I was crawling away from that awful place, I saw two other men who were still alive. I went to them and started to help them to get away, too, but one of them told me to leave them, they were finished, they'd never escape before the Greeks came back.

"Get away, tell everyone what happened here," he ordered me. It took me several days, hiding during the day, to reach a Turkish village and learn that I was the only survivor of the Taskent massacre."

When Suat's story became known the United Nations tried to investigate, but the Greek Cypriots refused to tell them anything or show them the massacre spot. It was assumed that the other bus load of men had also been machine gunned to death for they were never seen again. It was also believed that the bodies had been covered by bulldozers as no trace was found and this seemed to be the method by which the Greeks were burying their Turkish victims.

The women of Taskent (Tokhni) could only be evacuated on Oct. 25, 1974, by UNFICYP to Northern Cyprus, and the village was reconstituted under the same name near Lefkosa. The existence of a mass grave in South Cyprus where the male population of Taskent (Tokhni), Tatlisu (Mari) and Terazi (Zyyi) is known to have been buried was confirmed by UNFICYP.


For the sake of some kind of balance, any chance of telling us the circumstances under which some 6,000 of the former inhabitants of the Occupied Territories were murdered by the Turkish Army and their supporters in 1974 please Toli.
Bill, No doubt attrocities were carried out by both sides, I have no reason to doubt you, My reason for posting was to answer the Original question of Why the flag is there in the first place.
The majority of forum posters try to portray a 'Holier than thou' attitude, and lay blame 100% at the feet of the TC and Turkey, refreshing to find that not all posters on this forum share that selective memory.


I am happy to confirm that I believe that Turkey bears near 100% of the blame and that I bear no grudge against our northern brothers and sisters.
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Postby Magnus » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:53 pm

bill cobbett wrote:BigAl does so love his crappy flag
Which some here see as a drag

As shiny as a big red plum
Do wish he'd shove it up his bum


More, more please ( pref. better than this awful attempt )


( Back to cooking dinner - frozen steak pie with oven ready chips )



I turn my back for one minute and you lot start getting all poetic without me. :evil: Well just for that I'm presenting my own literary masterpiece entitled 'Ode to the Turkish Pac-Man'.

Ode to the Turkish Pac-Man

Turkish Pac-Man you're a twat
Looking down on me like that
I hate the sight of you on that hill
staring at your power pill

Your Turkish chums are on my land
Living in rusty caravans
Their thieving friends are in my neighbour's house
they're all as welcome as a pubic louse

I wish the Problem would just get sorted
Then they can all be deported
Back to Turkey from whence they came
never to darken my doorstep again

Oh Turkish Pac-Man, you utter twat
How dare you look at me like that?
You might remind me of the past
but we will see who laughs last

Your puppet leader won't last long
and your army friends will soon be gone
You've got TMT and grey wolves too
but my donkey could have the lot of you

You may be a symbol of years of strife
but I've been sleeping with your wife
That's nothing compared to what I'll do
When I get my hands on you

Yes Turkish Pac-Man you're a b*****d of a man
but not half as much as what I am.
I'll cut your nuts off and stick them up your butt
with a Turkish flag and a coconut :evil:


Not great I know, but the best I can do off the top of my head.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:09 am

Magnus wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:BigAl does so love his crappy flag
Which some here see as a drag

As shiny as a big red plum
Do wish he'd shove it up his bum


More, more please ( pref. better than this awful attempt )


( Back to cooking dinner - frozen steak pie with oven ready chips )



I turn my back for one minute and you lot start getting all poetic without me. :evil: Well just for that I'm presenting my own literary masterpiece entitled 'Ode to the Turkish Pac-Man'.

Ode to the Turkish Pac-Man

Turkish Pac-Man you're a twat
Looking down on me like that
I hate the sight of you on that hill
staring at your power pill

Your Turkish chums are on my land
Living in rusty caravans
Their thieving friends are in my neighbour's house
they're all as welcome as a pubic louse

I wish the Problem would just get sorted
Then they can all be deported
Back to Turkey from whence they came
never to darken my doorstep again

Oh Turkish Pac-Man, you utter twat
How dare you look at me like that?
You might remind me of the past
but we will see who laughs last

Your puppet leader won't last long
and your army friends will soon be gone
You've got TMT and grey wolves too
but my donkey could have the lot of you

You may be a symbol of years of strife
but I've been sleeping with your wife
That's nothing compared to what I'll do
When I get my hands on you

Yes Turkish Pac-Man you're a b*****d of a man
but not half as much as what I am.
I'll cut your nuts off and stick them up your butt
with a Turkish flag and a coconut :evil:


Not great I know, but the best I can do off the top of my head.


Not great? - that was shockingly great. 11/10. :shock:
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:20 am

Magnus wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:BigAl does so love his crappy flag
Which some here see as a drag

As shiny as a big red plum
Do wish he'd shove it up his bum


More, more please ( pref. better than this awful attempt )


( Back to cooking dinner - frozen steak pie with oven ready chips )



I turn my back for one minute and you lot start getting all poetic without me. :evil: Well just for that I'm presenting my own literary masterpiece entitled 'Ode to the Turkish Pac-Man'.

Ode to the Turkish Pac-Man

Turkish Pac-Man you're a twat
Looking down on me like that
I hate the sight of you on that hill
staring at your power pill

Your Turkish chums are on my land
Living in rusty caravans
Their thieving friends are in my neighbour's house
they're all as welcome as a pubic louse

I wish the Problem would just get sorted
Then they can all be deported
Back to Turkey from whence they came
never to darken my doorstep again

Oh Turkish Pac-Man, you utter twat
How dare you look at me like that?
You might remind me of the past
but we will see who laughs last

Your puppet leader won't last long
and your army friends will soon be gone
You've got TMT and grey wolves too
but my donkey could have the lot of you

You may be a symbol of years of strife
but I've been sleeping with your wife
That's nothing compared to what I'll do
When I get my hands on you

Yes Turkish Pac-Man you're a b*****d of a man
but not half as much as what I am.
I'll cut your nuts off and stick them up your butt
with a Turkish flag and a coconut :evil:


Not great I know, but the best I can do off the top of my head.


You talk very big but for hundereds of years Turks rules you and f$$k you and your family, and garantee they will keep f$$$$ng you for much mor years.

Turks, Tcs are loughin now and lauogh before. Your time to laugh not near future. You are the arseoles of the planet and you are been punished.

Good poem, congrttulasion, but what you write only in poems and dreeams. Good nite :lol: :lol:
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:29 am

Magnus
Your puppet leader won't last long
and your army friends will soon be gone
You've got TMT and grey wolves too
but my donkey could have the lot of you


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: next time leav it to the donkeys. You cant do it maybe your donkeys got more chance :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:34 am

Magnus wrote:
lovernomore wrote: You talk very big but for hundereds of years Turks rules you and f$$k you and your family, and garantee they will keep f$$$$ng you for much mor years.

Turks, Tcs are loughin now and lauogh before. Your time to laugh not near future. You are the arseoles of the planet and you are been punished.

Good poem, congrttulasion, but what you write only in poems and dreeams. Good nite :lol: :lol:


Yes I wouldn't expect a sub-human imbecile to enjoy the finer points of wit. Never mind eh? Scuttle off back to your cave now, there's a good chap, and leave the literary criticism for the evolved people.


:lol: :lol: :lol: yes evolved to assoles, the peeople with no balls, the peeople who think better than Turks but in real life f$$$$$ng loosers :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: When you become human and dont think you are specal than god might let you smile. until than you will sufferr and pay for your crimes againts innosent peeople that not cause you harm and was just getting on whith there lifes.
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Postby Magnus » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:35 am

lovernomore wrote:Magnus
Your puppet leader won't last long
and your army friends will soon be gone
You've got TMT and grey wolves too
but my donkey could have the lot of you


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: next time leav it to the donkeys. You cant do it maybe your donkeys got more chance :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Can't stop reading it I see. If I had known you would be so intrested I would have made more of an effort.
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:40 am

Magnus wrote:
lovernomore wrote:Magnus
Your puppet leader won't last long
and your army friends will soon be gone
You've got TMT and grey wolves too
but my donkey could have the lot of you


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: next time leav it to the donkeys. You cant do it maybe your donkeys got more chance :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Can't stop reading it I see. If I had known you would be so intrested I would have made more of an effort.


is very well writing, i like it and enjoy reading it. its funny and make me lough :lol: :lol: :lol: If any chance anything you write be reality than i worry, but what you write is just your dream and never in million years can happen. Maybe your donkeys got chance to hurt Turks and Tcs but Greece and ROC have no chance. You might walk on water one day but impossible to do what you write. Sorry to give you bad news. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:45 am

lovernomore wrote:
Magnus wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:BigAl does so love his crappy flag
Which some here see as a drag

As shiny as a big red plum
Do wish he'd shove it up his bum


More, more please ( pref. better than this awful attempt )


( Back to cooking dinner - frozen steak pie with oven ready chips )



I turn my back for one minute and you lot start getting all poetic without me. :evil: Well just for that I'm presenting my own literary masterpiece entitled 'Ode to the Turkish Pac-Man'.

Ode to the Turkish Pac-Man

Turkish Pac-Man you're a twat
Looking down on me like that
I hate the sight of you on that hill
staring at your power pill

Your Turkish chums are on my land
Living in rusty caravans
Their thieving friends are in my neighbour's house
they're all as welcome as a pubic louse

I wish the Problem would just get sorted
Then they can all be deported
Back to Turkey from whence they came
never to darken my doorstep again

Oh Turkish Pac-Man, you utter twat
How dare you look at me like that?
You might remind me of the past
but we will see who laughs last

Your puppet leader won't last long
and your army friends will soon be gone
You've got TMT and grey wolves too
but my donkey could have the lot of you

You may be a symbol of years of strife
but I've been sleeping with your wife
That's nothing compared to what I'll do
When I get my hands on you

Yes Turkish Pac-Man you're a b*****d of a man
but not half as much as what I am.
I'll cut your nuts off and stick them up your butt
with a Turkish flag and a coconut :evil:


Not great I know, but the best I can do off the top of my head.


You talk very big but for hundereds of years Turks rules you and f$$k you and your family, and garantee they will keep f$$$$ng you for much mor years.

Turks, Tcs are loughin now and lauogh before. Your time to laugh not near future. You are the arseoles of the planet and you are been punished.

Good poem, congrttulasion, but what you write only in poems and dreeams. Good nite :lol: :lol:


Lovemenomore, leaving your excellent literary judgement aside, I piss on you. I piss on you again and for good measure I shite on you. I also piss on your wife, if you're unlucky enough to have one. I also piss on all your children, if you have any and they were actually sired by you. I also piss on your goat.

Needless to say so I will say it needlessly, I finally piss and shite on your crappy flag. :lol: :lol:

Kali sas nichta plonkeraki.

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... bill c. ...pissed again :roll:
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