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[CanDiaz]

What about their offspring, who were born in Cyprus?

Hard nut to crack. I'd like to say born in Cyprus = Cypriot. But some will stay, some will not. It depends on many factors, too many to list here. I've already created a thread with possible scenarios.

However. If one wish to belong to Turkey it's easy to arrange. I reckon it's possible to swim to the southern coast of the motherland if you're a dedicated Kemalist enough.

I'm not certain, but I think that the EU has a law regarding birth right, as an EU member Cyprus wouldn't have a choice in the matter.

[DT.]

We all passed Those Times .............

TALAT SAYS SOVEREIGNTY WILL BE SHARED



[size=18]CHRISTOFIAS REFERS TO BI-COMMUNAL, BI-ZONAL FEDERATION

Next time don't wait for a GC post to react Halil. You are also allowed to react when soyer posts.

[Tim Drayton]

What about their offspring, who were born in Cyprus?

Hard nut to crack. I'd like to say born in Cyprus = Cypriot. But some will stay, some will not. It depends on many factors, too many to list here. I've already created a thread with possible scenarios.

However. If one wish to belong to Turkey it's easy to arrange. I reckon it's possible to swim to the southern coast of the motherland if you're a dedicated Kemalist enough.

I'm not certain, but I think that the EU has a law regarding birth right, as an EU member Cyprus wouldn't have a choice in the matter.

I started to do some research about that in connection with another thread on this point. It seems that Poland does not grant citizenship to the children of non-Polish immigrants born in Poland because they are not of "Polish blood". So I do not know if EU regulations are cut and dried on this matter.

An important point to consider is that we are now seeing the emergence of a third generation among settler families in the north. I contend that an EU member state will find it very difficult to deport people on the grounds that their grandparents, not their parents, were illegal immigrants to the country.

[halil]

We all passed Those Times .............

TALAT SAYS SOVEREIGNTY WILL BE SHARED



[size=18]CHRISTOFIAS REFERS TO BI-COMMUNAL, BI-ZONAL FEDERATION

Next time don't wait for a GC post to react Halil. You are also allowed to react when soyer posts.

DT ,

My reaction is for everybody .

it says very clearly . We all past Those days .

Have a look what both sides are talking now . We are talking about how we can make the new Federal Cyprus ..... rest of it nothing at the moment .

[Paphitis]

We all passed Those Times .............

TALAT SAYS SOVEREIGNTY WILL BE SHARED



[size=18]CHRISTOFIAS REFERS TO BI-COMMUNAL, BI-ZONAL FEDERATION

Next time don't wait for a GC post to react Halil. You are also allowed to react when soyer posts.

Halil finds Soyer's posts acceptable and that is why he does not react. He supports Soyer.

He only reacts to GCs countering Soyer's posts of hatred. This definateley makes Halil a HYPOCRITE!

[DT.]

We all passed Those Times .............

TALAT SAYS SOVEREIGNTY WILL BE SHARED



[size=18]CHRISTOFIAS REFERS TO BI-COMMUNAL, BI-ZONAL FEDERATION

Next time don't wait for a GC post to react Halil. You are also allowed to react when soyer posts.

DT ,

My reaction is for everybody .

it says very clearly . We all past Those days .

Have a look what both sides are talking now . We are talking about how we can make the new Federal Cyprus ..... rest of it nothing at the moment .

Its not what your posts say Halil its when they say it.

[CanDiaz]

What about their offspring, who were born in Cyprus?

Hard nut to crack. I'd like to say born in Cyprus = Cypriot. But some will stay, some will not. It depends on many factors, too many to list here. I've already created a thread with possible scenarios.

However. If one wish to belong to Turkey it's easy to arrange. I reckon it's possible to swim to the southern coast of the motherland if you're a dedicated Kemalist enough.

I'm not certain, but I think that the EU has a law regarding birth right, as an EU member Cyprus wouldn't have a choice in the matter.

I started to do some research about that in connection with another thread on this point. It seems that Poland does not grant citizenship to the children of non-Polish immigrants born in Poland because they are not of "Polish blood". So I do not know if EU regulations are cut and dried on this matter.

An important point to consider is that we are now seeing the emergence of a third generation among settler families in the north. I contend that an EU member state will find it very difficult to deport people on the grounds that their grandparents, not their parents, were illegal immigrants to the country.

Not to mention the fact that Cyprus is ( allegedly) paradise on Earth & if born there all the more so.
Wouldn't have a link to the Polish thing you mention, would ya?Thnks.

[Tim Drayton]

What about their offspring, who were born in Cyprus?

Hard nut to crack. I'd like to say born in Cyprus = Cypriot. But some will stay, some will not. It depends on many factors, too many to list here. I've already created a thread with possible scenarios.

However. If one wish to belong to Turkey it's easy to arrange. I reckon it's possible to swim to the southern coast of the motherland if you're a dedicated Kemalist enough.

I'm not certain, but I think that the EU has a law regarding birth right, as an EU member Cyprus wouldn't have a choice in the matter.

I started to do some research about that in connection with another thread on this point. It seems that Poland does not grant citizenship to the children of non-Polish immigrants born in Poland because they are not of "Polish blood". So I do not know if EU regulations are cut and dried on this matter.

An important point to consider is that we are now seeing the emergence of a third generation among settler families in the north. I contend that an EU member state will find it very difficult to deport people on the grounds that their grandparents, not their parents, were illegal immigrants to the country.

Not to mention the fact that Cyprus is ( allegedly) paradise on Earth & if born there all the more so.
Wouldn't have a link to the Polish thing you mention, would ya?Thnks.

I can't find anything just now, but the following story is highly relevant.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3801839.stm

[Kifeas]

What about their offspring, who were born in Cyprus?

Hard nut to crack. I'd like to say born in Cyprus = Cypriot. But some will stay, some will not. It depends on many factors, too many to list here. I've already created a thread with possible scenarios.

However. If one wish to belong to Turkey it's easy to arrange. I reckon it's possible to swim to the southern coast of the motherland if you're a dedicated Kemalist enough.

I'm not certain, but I think that the EU has a law regarding birth right, as an EU member Cyprus wouldn't have a choice in the matter.

I started to do some research about that in connection with another thread on this point. It seems that Poland does not grant citizenship to the children of non-Polish immigrants born in Poland because they are not of "Polish blood". So I do not know if EU regulations are cut and dried on this matter.

An important point to consider is that we are now seeing the emergence of a third generation among settler families in the north. I contend that an EU member state will find it very difficult to deport people on the grounds that their grandparents, not their parents, were illegal immigrants to the country.

Tim, the repatriation of settlers from Turkey, illegally imported or allowed to come to Cyprus, will be part of the solution package. Turkey, among other things (including the withdrawal of her army,) will undertake the responsibility to repatriate her own people! In which way Turkey will achieve this, be it forcefully or by bribing them with money to return back home, is and will be her own business! The settlers won’t be repatriated after the solution, by the EU member United federal RoC, but by Turkey itself, as part of the solution agreement, just like her illegal troops in Cyprus! If Turkey won't agree to such a thing, then there won't be a solution! As simple as that!

It is not a case in which, first I break your home, then I rape you, I make you pregnant, and then I demand that you also carry the pregnancy along (no abortion is allowed,) give birth to my child, which you will also have to bring up as well, without me having any further responsibility! These things happen only in Turkey!

[Bananiot]

I was talking with some teachers the other day and one of them admitted that he visits the north quite often. One of the teachers jumped on him really hard and told him off for his habit. Among else he told him that by visiting the occupied parts and spending money there he basically financed the occupation army.

Let me tell you this, he answered, in a low voice. I lost my father and my brother during the war. I do not blame the ordinary people for my losses. I do not look for revenge because I have met many Turkish Cypriots who have suffered as much as my family. The best way to honour the memory of our loved ones whom we lost in such tragic circumstances is to struggle to make sure that the mistakes of the past are never repeated again.

I think the message sent by this teacher is a powerful one and those that were quick to condemn him for visiting the north had no argument to answer him back.

This chap Soyer now. He is a typical Cypriot nationalist. He just happened to be Turkish Cypriot. Had he been a Greek Cypriot he would be just known by another name, perhaps Pantheman or Paphitis.