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[Kikapu]

Miltiades, will you stop teaseing me, I can only see few respectable intelligent people on CF, and i must admid you are the one of them because of that you have my respect, but this does not mean you can interfere with my doings.
This avatars on CF are for use, if you must know i use this only because i am Turkish Cypriot instead would like to use TRNC flag if i can get one on CF until then i will continue with Turkish flag. After all we owe Turkey our existence in Cyprus. I would NEVER EVER use RoC flag for me that is no different then EOKA flag, i have very bad memorable hard times end of 1963 in K. Kaymakli (Omorfida) i was prisoner under that flag of yours at age of 12 brave Nikos Sampson's prisoner of war. Before that i was Cypriot soon i realize Cypriot nation does not exist nothing more then a fairy tale, so i became PROUD TURKISH from Cyprus.

NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE.



Dağ başını duman almış...............

i have very bad memorable hard times end of 1963 in K. Kaymakli (Omorfida) i was prisoner under that flag of yours at age of 12

Where were you a prisoner in 1963 Soyer..??

[soyer]

Miltiades, will you stop teaseing me, I can only see few respectable intelligent people on CF, and i must admid you are the one of them because of that you have my respect, but this does not mean you can interfere with my doings.
This avatars on CF are for use, if you must know i use this only because i am Turkish Cypriot instead would like to use TRNC flag if i can get one on CF until then i will continue with Turkish flag. After all we owe Turkey our existence in Cyprus. I would NEVER EVER use RoC flag for me that is no different then EOKA flag, i have very bad memorable hard times end of 1963 in K. Kaymakli (Omorfida) i was prisoner under that flag of yours at age of 12 brave Nikos Sampson's prisoner of war. Before that i was Cypriot soon i realize Cypriot nation does not exist nothing more then a fairy tale, so i became PROUD TURKISH from Cyprus.

NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE.


Dağ başını duman almış...............

i have very bad memorable hard times end of 1963 in K. Kaymakli (Omorfida) i was prisoner under that flag of yours at age of 12

Where were you a prisoner in 1963 Soyer..??

I was takeing from K. Kaymakli believe date was 24 or 25/12/1963 midday to noon travel to one old monastery not to far from Nicosia where they keep as for some days until British solders force G/Cs EOKA to cease fire and then with RAF trucks most of as turn back to Nicosia Turkish zone, some never did turn up, and never will.

For asking me this i take that you also had some involvement there. 21/12/63 evening EOKA begin killing Turks in Nicosia then they notice that about 10.000 G/Cs was cut of in Trachonas in order to have access to them EOKA choose Kumsal region where they kill mother and three children in bahroom that attack was unsuccessful for EOKA and Kalamaras, so they commence attack on Omorfita from two different direction one from Kaymakli to Omorfita center and the other Turkish primary school direction led by Nikos Samson . Soon Turks accept that it was impossible to stop this bloodthirsty animals/murderers with few shotguns. so they begin to escape to Nicosia direction but by then Samson was finish with school plus Omorfita police station and closed completely Nicosia way. On one side Samson west side Trachonas and east was Kaimakli only one direction open for as was Mandres, many people with help of my school teacher Huseyin Ruso manage to cross over bypass which was heavily under gunfire from Kaimakli it was still couple hundred people left when brave Turk H. Ruso shot dead and escape become impossible. Greeks start gathering people outside futbol club and there start cheap victory show of Nikos Samson and second group leader which i am not sure his identity, someone told me recently that he was expresident of yours Papa i don't know how true, years gone by and people has change.

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

Miltiades, will you stop teaseing me, I can only see few respectable intelligent people on CF, and i must admid you are the one of them because of that you have my respect, but this does not mean you can interfere with my doings.
This avatars on CF are for use, if you must know i use this only because i am Turkish Cypriot instead would like to use TRNC flag if i can get one on CF until then i will continue with Turkish flag. After all we owe Turkey our existence in Cyprus. I would NEVER EVER use RoC flag for me that is no different then EOKA flag, i have very bad memorable hard times end of 1963 in K. Kaymakli (Omorfida) i was prisoner under that flag of yours at age of 12 brave Nikos Sampson's prisoner of war. Before that i was Cypriot soon i realize Cypriot nation does not exist nothing more then a fairy tale, so i became PROUD TURKISH from Cyprus.

NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE.



Dağ başını duman almış...............

So you were twelve in 1974 you were born in 1962. So what was your mother when she had you 53 when she had you??? You did state your mother lived through the Armenian Genocide.

Here we go again.

Who let this one out so early. GO BACK AND LOOK AGAIN WHERE YOU SEE 1974 is this a joke you can not be so blind. She is 90 now still lives in K. Kaymakli, her date of birth 1918 Turkey. I am 57 is that makes you unhappy. Lying is Gods-gift to Armenians.

Lets see. Cyprus was ruled by Britain, they were taking in Armenian and Maronite refugees the Turkish Cypriots were moving back to Turkey and you state Turkeys enemy during ww1 England took in your mothers family??? Great story. Do you write for Dr Suess???

[halil]

Miltiades ,
do you know the mixed village Pyla (PİLE) that only Turkish and Greek flags can be used .You can not use ROC or TRNC flags .
is'nt it strange for all of us .

it's means up to solution we can have these confusions .People are have to show themself with their own symbols nothing to scare or blame them .

we all free to express our self Turkish Cypriot , Greek Cypriot or Cypriots .

for me i would like to express my self as a Turkish Cypriot . İ don't think there is a danger for others the way what i believe .

Halil , you know my views perhaps more than others. What divides our people is Greece and Turkey. Our leaders are about to decide a very important issue , one identity and one nation .
The entire Cyprus conflict erupted not because Cypriots were in conflict with Cypriots , but because Turks were in conflict with Greeks.
We are on this island together , our allegiance has to be to this island , it does not mean that we DENY our relationship with either Greece or Turkey but it does mean that we strengthen our commitment to ONE nation and one people , the Cypriots.

Dear friend don't take it as a personal .......

Ok Miltiades , Greece and Turkey stir-up the things in Cyprus ... Who were the EOKA , TMT or National guards or Makarios or Sampson supporters ....They were all Cypriots .... Why they took the guns in their hands .....

as a kid they were playing with eachother but when they were grown up .... they were stopping to see each other ..... they weren't asking to each other what's happennigs us when we were child we were playing together now we are grow up just saying hello to eachother that!s all ...they were not sharing each others secrets or worries . İ am hearing all these things from mixed villages people my dear friend .... Where was the Turkey or Greece at those days .....İ am talking from your time from 55-58 and so on .

we have to put every data front of us and talk and talk ... from where we failed ?

İ think we are failed before ROC time . These are only excuses to blame Turkey or Greece or others ....

everythings were at our hands ( our grand fathers and mothers) ....

[Rebel.Without.A.Pause]

Dear friend don't take it as a personal .......

Ok Miltiades , Greece and Turkey stir-up the things in Cyprus ... Who were the EOKA , TMT or National guards or Makarios or Sampson supporters ....They were all Cypriots .... Why they took the guns in their hands .....

as a kid they were playing with eachother but when they were grown up .... they were stopping to see each other ..... they weren't asking to each other what's happennigs us when we were child we were playing together now we are grow up just saying hello to eachother that!s all ...they were not sharing each others secrets or worries . İ am hearing all these things from mixed villages people my dear friend .... Where was the Turkey or Greece at those days .....İ am talking from your time from 55-58 and so on .

we have to put every data front of us and talk and talk ... from where we failed ?

İ think we are failed before ROC time . These are only excuses to blame Turkey or Greece or others ....

everythings were at our hands ( our grand fathers and mothers) ....

Lets be honest...

Greece hasnt stirred up anything since the Greek junta was deposed by the Greek people in 1974. Turkey is the problem now - we ALL know this. The Greek government and minister Dora Bakoyiannis has set up and sponsored bi-communal events and flown Greek and Turkish Cypriots into Athens for get togethers. I dont see Turkey doing ANYTHING like this do you?

Stop saying Greece is at fault at the moment because its crap.

[soyer]

Miltiades, will you stop teaseing me, I can only see few respectable intelligent people on CF, and i must admid you are the one of them because of that you have my respect, but this does not mean you can interfere with my doings.
This avatars on CF are for use, if you must know i use this only because i am Turkish Cypriot instead would like to use TRNC flag if i can get one on CF until then i will continue with Turkish flag. After all we owe Turkey our existence in Cyprus. I would NEVER EVER use RoC flag for me that is no different then EOKA flag, i have very bad memorable hard times end of 1963 in K. Kaymakli (Omorfida) i was prisoner under that flag of yours at age of 12 brave Nikos Sampson's prisoner of war. Before that i was Cypriot soon i realize Cypriot nation does not exist nothing more then a fairy tale, so i became PROUD TURKISH from Cyprus.

NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE.



Dağ başını duman almış...............

So you were twelve in 1974 you were born in 1962. So what was your mother when she had you 53 when she had you??? You did state your mother lived through the Armenian Genocide.

Here we go again.

Who let this one out so early. GO BACK AND LOOK AGAIN WHERE YOU SEE 1974 is this a joke you can not be so blind. She is 90 now still lives in K. Kaymakli, her date of birth 1918 Turkey. I am 57 is that makes you unhappy. Lying is Gods-gift to Armenians.

Lets see. Cyprus was ruled by Britain, they were taking in Armenian and Maronite refugees the Turkish Cypriots were moving back to Turkey and you state Turkeys enemy during ww1 England took in your mothers family??? Great story. Do you write for Dr Suess???

You begin annoying me now if you have something meaningful to ask if not go and play elsewhere. I am not here for your nonsensical questions.

[Kikapu]

i have very bad memorable hard times end of 1963 in K. Kaymakli (Omorfida) i was prisoner under that flag of yours at age of 12

Where were you a prisoner in 1963 Soyer..??

I was takeing from K. Kaymakli believe date was 24 or 25/12/1963 midday to noon travel to one old monastery not to far from Nicosia where they keep as for some days until British solders force G/Cs EOKA to cease fire and then with RAF trucks most of as turn back to Nicosia Turkish zone, some never did turn up, and never will.

For asking me this i take that you also had some involvement there. 21/12/63 evening EOKA begin killing Turks in Nicosia then they notice that about 10.000 G/Cs was cut of in Trachonas in order to have access to them EOKA choose Kumsal region where they kill mother and three children in bahroom that attack was unsuccessful for EOKA and Kalamaras, so they commence attack on Omorfita from two different direction one from Kaymakli to Omorfita center and the other Turkish primary school direction led by Nikos Samson . Soon Turks accept that it was impossible to stop this bloodthirsty animals/murderers with few shotguns. so they begin to escape to Nicosia direction but by then Samson was finish with school plus Omorfita police station and closed completely Nicosia way. On one side Samson west side Trachonas and east was Kaimakli only one direction open for as was Mandres, many people with help of my school teacher Huseyin Ruso manage to cross over bypass which was heavily under gunfire from Kaimakli it was still couple hundred people left when brave Turk H. Ruso shot dead and escape become impossible. Greeks start gathering people outside futbol club and there start cheap victory show of Nikos Samson and second group leader which i am not sure his identity, someone told me recently that he was expresident of yours Papa i don't know how true, years gone by and people has change.

For asking me this i take that you also had some involvement there.

Soyer,

I know your English is somewhat limited in expressing yourself very clearly, and I'm not picking on you because of it, but I would like to know just what you meant with the above statement.

How many of you were kept as prisoners at the "Old Monastery" Soyer.??

Soyer, are the above detailed information that you gave are your recollections of what happened or did you read them from somewhere, or were they told to you by others.??

Soyer, you say you are from Kücük Kaymakli and back in 1963, you said you were 12 years old, so your memory should be pretty good, so let me ask you a question. Sometime in 1962/63, something very bad happened to a little girl on the way home from school. Do you know what that was by any chance.??

[Viewpoint]

i have very bad memorable hard times end of 1963 in K. Kaymakli (Omorfida) i was prisoner under that flag of yours at age of 12

Where were you a prisoner in 1963 Soyer..??

I was takeing from K. Kaymakli believe date was 24 or 25/12/1963 midday to noon travel to one old monastery not to far from Nicosia where they keep as for some days until British solders force G/Cs EOKA to cease fire and then with RAF trucks most of as turn back to Nicosia Turkish zone, some never did turn up, and never will.

For asking me this i take that you also had some involvement there. 21/12/63 evening EOKA begin killing Turks in Nicosia then they notice that about 10.000 G/Cs was cut of in Trachonas in order to have access to them EOKA choose Kumsal region where they kill mother and three children in bahroom that attack was unsuccessful for EOKA and Kalamaras, so they commence attack on Omorfita from two different direction one from Kaymakli to Omorfita center and the other Turkish primary school direction led by Nikos Samson . Soon Turks accept that it was impossible to stop this bloodthirsty animals/murderers with few shotguns. so they begin to escape to Nicosia direction but by then Samson was finish with school plus Omorfita police station and closed completely Nicosia way. On one side Samson west side Trachonas and east was Kaimakli only one direction open for as was Mandres, many people with help of my school teacher Huseyin Ruso manage to cross over bypass which was heavily under gunfire from Kaimakli it was still couple hundred people left when brave Turk H. Ruso shot dead and escape become impossible. Greeks start gathering people outside futbol club and there start cheap victory show of Nikos Samson and second group leader which i am not sure his identity, someone told me recently that he was expresident of yours Papa i don't know how true, years gone by and people has change.

For asking me this i take that you also had some involvement there.

Soyer,

I know your English is somewhat limited in expressing yourself very clearly, and I'm not picking on you because of it, but I would like to know just what you meant with the above statement.

How many of you were kept as prisoners at the "Old Monastery" Soyer.??

Soyer, are the above detailed information that you gave are your recollections of what happened or did you read them from somewhere, or were they told to you by others.??

Soyer, you say you are from Kücük Kaymakli and back in 1963, you said you were 12 years old, so your memory should be pretty good, so let me ask you a question. Sometime in 1962/63, something very bad happened to a little girl on the way home from school. Do you know what that was by any chance.??

Be careful Soyer Kikapu will take anything you have to say twist it up, ridicule you, call you a liar and then regurgitated in a way that will suit his GC viewpoint.

[Kikapu]

For asking me this i take that you also had some involvement there.

Soyer,

I know your English is somewhat limited in expressing yourself very clearly, and I'm not picking on you because of it, but I would like to know just what you meant with the above statement.

How many of you were kept as prisoners at the "Old Monastery" Soyer.??

Soyer, are the above detailed information that you gave are your recollections of what happened or did you read them from somewhere, or were they told to you by others.??

Soyer, you say you are from Kücük Kaymakli and back in 1963, you said you were 12 years old, so your memory should be pretty good, so let me ask you a question. Sometime in 1962/63, something very bad happened to a little girl on the way home from school. Do you know what that was by any chance.??

Be careful Soyer Kikapu will take anything you have to say twist it up, ridicule you, call you a liar and then regurgitated in a way that will suit his GC viewpoint.

Just because you lie VP and I catch you in doing so, you only have yourself to blame. If you were an honest person, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. You are even afraid to tell me which states you have visited in the USA, after saying you have been there many times, because you are afraid getting caught in a lie even on something as innocent as that. How sad is that for you.??

Soyer has nothing to worry about, as long as he is telling the truth.

If the truth is a GC point of view, then more power to them, and shame on you to suggest, that the TC's can't tell the truth, and will get caught by another TC who is honest and not morally corrupted such as yourself.

[Viewpoint]

For asking me this i take that you also had some involvement there.

Soyer,

I know your English is somewhat limited in expressing yourself very clearly, and I'm not picking on you because of it, but I would like to know just what you meant with the above statement.

How many of you were kept as prisoners at the "Old Monastery" Soyer.??

Soyer, are the above detailed information that you gave are your recollections of what happened or did you read them from somewhere, or were they told to you by others.??

Soyer, you say you are from Kücük Kaymakli and back in 1963, you said you were 12 years old, so your memory should be pretty good, so let me ask you a question. Sometime in 1962/63, something very bad happened to a little girl on the way home from school. Do you know what that was by any chance.??

Be careful Soyer Kikapu will take anything you have to say twist it up, ridicule you, call you a liar and then regurgitated in a way that will suit his GC viewpoint.

Just because you lie VP and I catch you in doing so, you only have yourself to blame. If you were an honest person, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. You are even afraid to tell me which states you have visited in the USA, after saying you have been there many times, because you are afraid getting caught in a lie even on something as innocent as that. How sad is that for you.??

Soyer has nothing to worry about, as long as he is telling the truth.

If the truth is a GC point of view, then more power to them, and shame on you to suggest, that the TC's can't tell the truth, and will get caught by another TC who is honest and not morally corrupted such as yourself.

I did not sign any undertaking to state that I would reveal personal details to someone I do not trust, that person being yourself, your lies are in your sick twisted brain, psychopaths like you are very intelligent but still crazy and very very dangerous, you fit well into that category. For you GCs tell the truth 100% of that time because you have not even once argued any TC viewpoint this reveals again exactly how a psychopaths mind works twisted, biased and blinkered just like yours.