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[halil]

Some how Kikapu thinks he is always right let him to think like that , at the end we , the TC's and GC's will decide what will happen in Cyprus not the Cypriots who are living at abroad . Let him to talk .

I'm sorry to disappoint you Halil, but I have just as much right to put my views forward regarding Cyprus as you do. Where one lives is totally irrelevant as long as they are Cypriots, or do you only pick and choose as to which TC's can talk and who cannot, depending whether they agree with your point of view or not. I thought Dictartorship that you were forced to accept under Denktash for the last 30+ years was over and have been enjoying some form of Democracy since his departure, but I see from your post, that you are missing the days of Denktash, where everyone was forced to be in the same line of thinking.

I know old habits are hard to get rid off Halil, but hang in there my friend, because there is some hope on the horizon for people like you to experience True Democracy soon. I hope you will be able to handle it when it arrives.!!

He knows these expressions very well ....

Davulun sesi uzaktan güzel gelir (Drum sound comes nice from away )

Kedi Ciğere uzanamayınca Mundardır der ( when the cat could not reach to liver , says it is dirty )

Halil, you have forgotten to mention the most important one;

"Dogruyu Söyleyeni 9 Köyden Kovarlar"

" One who tells the truth, is chased from 9 villages"

it is true ]"Dogruyu Söyleyeni 9 Köyden Kovarlar .

no one tells you not to talk . what you do is always you know better than others and others are lying .

my point of view is very simple .
BBF solution in Cyprus . nothing else Kikapucuğum .
i never call other place with funny names or other things at least one day we can live together .You must be very carefull when you are talking with people or states or nationes .

[Kikapu]

Kikapu you keep investigating about me i am sure you'll come up with many things.

But never forget i hate interrogattion by Greek i had that before.

if you like to have my answers ask straightforward and be ready to reply my questions.

WHERE WERE YOU IN 1963 AND WHERE YOU FROM
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Thanks Halil,
Sorry my fault not making clear, above was address to Kikapu, I don't understand what his trying to prove. I don't even know if he is Greek or Turkish but i notice he is using a Turkish keyboard very hard to belive existence of Turkish like Kikapu.

Soyer,

I am not investigating you Soyer, I'm just asking you questions based on your post. If you are not willing to accept question to what you post, then say so, so that we will not waste our precious time to get information that was not clear, giving the fact that your English is not perfectly clear at times, and stop playing silly buggers by trying to be cleaver by going round and round by asking silly questions instead. If you think asking questions to you amounts to "interrogation", then you must be a really "softy" and that we should treat you with "kid gloves", or better still, ignore you completely, so that we do not inflict permanent brain damage on you by making you think and answer some questions.

Now Soyer, let me give you some free advice as to how the forum works and what it means to have a "conversation". You say something first, then those either who did not understand what you said or have further questions then asks for clarification, and then you give it. Then once you have done that, then it is your turn to ask questions of those who has with you and back and forth. Get the picture now.

Now, this is what you are not suppose to do and that is, you refuse to answer simple questions for 2-3 days after being asked repeatedly to do so, then you come right back and want to ask questions to those you have refused to answer to, as you have done with me. So, if you want to play this right, then go back to my original questions, answer them, then I will be very glad to answer your questions.

[Kikapu]

Some how Kikapu thinks he is always right let him to think like that , at the end we , the TC's and GC's will decide what will happen in Cyprus not the Cypriots who are living at abroad . Let him to talk .

I'm sorry to disappoint you Halil, but I have just as much right to put my views forward regarding Cyprus as you do. Where one lives is totally irrelevant as long as they are Cypriots, or do you only pick and choose as to which TC's can talk and who cannot, depending whether they agree with your point of view or not. I thought Dictartorship that you were forced to accept under Denktash for the last 30+ years was over and have been enjoying some form of Democracy since his departure, but I see from your post, that you are missing the days of Denktash, where everyone was forced to be in the same line of thinking.

I know old habits are hard to get rid off Halil, but hang in there my friend, because there is some hope on the horizon for people like you to experience True Democracy soon. I hope you will be able to handle it when it arrives.!!

He knows these expressions very well ....

Davulun sesi uzaktan güzel gelir (Drum sound comes nice from away )

Kedi Ciğere uzanamayınca Mundardır der ( when the cat could not reach to liver , says it is dirty )

Halil, you have forgotten to mention the most important one;

"Dogruyu Söyleyeni 9 Köyden Kovarlar"

" One who tells the truth, is chased from 9 villages"

it is true ]"Dogruyu Söyleyeni 9 Köyden Kovarlar .

Sad don't you think, that "one who tells the truth, is chased from 9 villages", but thanks for confirming it all the same Halil.

no one tells you not to talk . what you do is always you know better than others and others are lying .

If someone tells us a story and then refuses to clarify some of the points they have talked about, then what I'm I suppose to think Halil.?? If they do not wish to be questioned, then it is best they do not say anything in the first place, or else it comes across as "Propaganda".

my point of view is very simple .
BBF solution in Cyprus . nothing else Kikapucuğum .
i never call other place with funny names or other things at least one day we can live together .You must be very carefull when you are talking with people or states or nationes .

I agree with you and I have been supporting BBF for a very long time.

BBF = True Democracy and True Federation.

Anything beyond that, is a recipe for disaster, much like the Annan Plan 2004 which some want to believe, that's what a BBF is..

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu you appear to be labelling everything you don't like reading propaganda why is that?

[soyer]

soyer, i am curious, is it hard to imagine that you would meet a Greek like me?

this thread and this conversation is very interesting. i found soyer's story very touching. if it is true, i am glad that at least he can talk about this misery. either way too many of us suffered a similar fate, and this blood must count for something, where we have the same contempt, their lives are wasted.

dearest halil, your hope touches me. please read the Manifesto, study it because you are well enough informed.

i need your help. you more than anyone else is able to understand that all these ideas are not new, but as a primitive my work on this subject is a synopsis of the recollections I have from reading newspapers, and living this anxiety all my life.

...also if you would be so kind, may I have a link for Mehemet Ali Talat, to send him this Manifesto, the web site for his Office does not seem to function, and he may find it of interest as well.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772

Hi Repulsewarrior,

It's nice to see a average Cypriot working on future of the Cyprus, rather then argue over past like i do. The way things are going now encouraging hope they get to bottom of it this time. Unlike previous leaders this two looks genuine. I like your Manifesto.
You can use link below.

http://www.kktcb.eu/

[Kikapu]

Kikapu you appear to be labelling everything you don't like reading propaganda why is that?

Have you seen anything that Soyer posted with his Copy/Paste yet, that it was not pure Hate Propaganda.!

So far Soyer has not written anything meaningful himself that was worth reading. He does not debate any one in any meaningful way, and that's fine, I'm not faulting him for that, but all the crap he posts is nothing but Hate Propaganda, or do you disagree with this, and if so, tell us which of his Copy/Paste so far was not a Hate Propaganda.!

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu you appear to be labelling everything you don't like reading propaganda why is that?

Have you seen anything that Soyer posted with his Copy/Paste yet, that it was not pure Hate Propaganda.!

So far Soyer has not written anything meaningful himself that was worth reading. He does not debate any one in any meaningful way, and that's fine, I'm not faulting him for that, but all the crap he posts is nothing but Hate Propaganda, or do you disagree with this, and if so, tell us which of his Copy/Paste so far was not a Hate Propaganda.!

Soyer believes what he pastes and you only have to scroll up to see there are posts which have nothing to do with hate but purely trying to defend himself against your usual onslaught of verbal diarrhea shaped in the form of insults and belittling comments.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu you appear to be labelling everything you don't like reading propaganda why is that?

Have you seen anything that Soyer posted with his Copy/Paste yet, that it was not pure Hate Propaganda.!

So far Soyer has not written anything meaningful himself that was worth reading. He does not debate any one in any meaningful way, and that's fine, I'm not faulting him for that, but all the crap he posts is nothing but Hate Propaganda, or do you disagree with this, and if so, tell us which of his Copy/Paste so far was not a Hate Propaganda.!

Soyer believes what he pastes and you only have to scroll up to see there are posts which have nothing to do with hate but purely trying to defend himself against your usual onslaught of verbal diarrhea shaped in the form of insults and belittling comments.

I'm fair with everyone, until they try to play games with their posts. I gave Soyer every chance to answer my questions, and he did not. He instead took your advice and tried to be coy by not answering my simple questions, that were not personal but on what he wrote in his post. Soyer and I had very little contact thus far, and the only one we did try to have a conversation, he failed to deliver on his Honesty and Integrity. Once he failed that benchmark, then he became fair play to question him on his post and all the way down to his underwear.!

[halil]

Some how Kikapu thinks he is always right let him to think like that , at the end we , the TC's and GC's will decide what will happen in Cyprus not the Cypriots who are living at abroad . Let him to talk .

I'm sorry to disappoint you Halil, but I have just as much right to put my views forward regarding Cyprus as you do. Where one lives is totally irrelevant as long as they are Cypriots, or do you only pick and choose as to which TC's can talk and who cannot, depending whether they agree with your point of view or not. I thought Dictartorship that you were forced to accept under Denktash for the last 30+ years was over and have been enjoying some form of Democracy since his departure, but I see from your post, that you are missing the days of Denktash, where everyone was forced to be in the same line of thinking.

I know old habits are hard to get rid off Halil, but hang in there my friend, because there is some hope on the horizon for people like you to experience True Democracy soon. I hope you will be able to handle it when it arrives.!!

He knows these expressions very well ....

Davulun sesi uzaktan güzel gelir (Drum sound comes nice from away )

Kedi Ciğere uzanamayınca Mundardır der ( when the cat could not reach to liver , says it is dirty )

Halil, you have forgotten to mention the most important one;

"Dogruyu Söyleyeni 9 Köyden Kovarlar"

" One who tells the truth, is chased from 9 villages"

it is true ]"Dogruyu Söyleyeni 9 Köyden Kovarlar .

Sad don't you think, that "one who tells the truth, is chased from 9 villages", but thanks for confirming it all the same Halil.

no one tells you not to talk . what you do is always you know better than others and others are lying .

If someone tells us a story and then refuses to clarify some of the points they have talked about, then what I'm I suppose to think Halil.?? If they do not wish to be questioned, then it is best they do not say anything in the first place, or else it comes across as "Propaganda".

my point of view is very simple .
BBF solution in Cyprus . nothing else Kikapucuğum .
i never call other place with funny names or other things at least one day we can live together .You must be very carefull when you are talking with people or states or nationes .

I agree with you and I have been supporting BBF for a very long time.

BBF = True Democracy and True Federation.

Anything beyond that, is a recipe for disaster, much like the Annan Plan 2004 which some want to believe, that's what a BBF is..

Kikapu ,
You are blaming them that they are doing propaganda .... what is your ones .Propagandanın Danişkası too . you are telling your ways and they are telling their ways . as long as you are not insulting each other ,there is no problem .

at other treat Deniz was asking you are you lawer ? it is a right question for you ....

Her şeye maydanoz ............. Onlar masum , bizler Cani

you complain that they are trying to silence you at other hand you are doing same thing against them as far as i can see .

Did we have true democracy before 74 Kikabucuğum . Be honest gardaşcığım . True democracy at Çadırlarda .....Mandrez ovalarında .....

you should remember it as a guy from Kaymakli .

soon i will tell you little girl story ...... than we can compare your your memories of the story and what the people says about it in these days ....
as you know we always hear many versions of the stories ....

[Kikapu]

Kikapu ,
You are blaming them that they are doing propaganda .... what is your ones .Propagandanın Danişkası too . you are telling your ways and they are telling their ways . as long as you are not insulting each other ,there is no problem .

No Halil, I'm not blaming anyone of doing propaganda. I'm exposing those that are doing propaganda, otherwise I don't say anything.

at other treat Deniz was asking you are you lawer ? it is a right question for you ....

I've already answered Deniz............sorry it took a while. I was making lunch for mayself.

Her şeye maydanoz ............. Onlar masum , bizler Cani

Not true Halil. Both sides has a bit of both.

you complain that they are trying to silence you at other hand you are doing same thing against them as far as i can see .

On the contrary, I'm asking for more information from them, and not trying to silence anyone. It is they who refuses to give more information. Please blame them for not wanting to speak more.

Did we have true democracy before 74 Kikabucuğum . Be honest gardaşcığım . True democracy at Çadırlarda .....Mandrez ovalarında .....

This is the easiest question to answer ever. We never had a True democracy in Cyprus Halil, and definitely not with the 1960 Constitution and the so called "Independence". Some people on the forum still DON'T want to have a True Democracy. They have learned nothing of the past 48 years. I'm hoping we will have a True Democracy now, if both sides are serious about having a Fair and Just long lasting Peace.

you should remember it as a guy from Kaymakli .

I'll never forget my roots Halil, and thanks for reminding me where I'm from. I'm very proud to be from Kücük Kaymakli.

soon i will tell you little girl story ...... than we can compare your your memories of the story and what the people says about it in these days ....
as you know we always hear many versions of the stories

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Sure why not. If you get it correct, I'll say so.