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[Kikapu]

Stop playing game and ask what you want to know.
Also tell me do i have right to ask you what i like to know?

No Soyer, it is you who is playing games and refusing to answer my questions.

Here are the same questions.

For asking me this i take that you also had some involvement there.

Soyer,

I know your English is somewhat limited in expressing yourself very clearly, and I'm not picking on you because of it, but I would like to know just what you meant with the above statement.

How many of you were kept as prisoners at the "Old Monastery" Soyer.??

Soyer, are the above detailed information that you gave are your recollections of what happened or did you read them from somewhere, or were they told to you by others.??

Soyer, you say you are from Kücük Kaymakli and back in 1963, you said you were 12 years old, so your memory should be pretty good, so let me ask you a question. Sometime in 1962/63, something very bad happened to a little girl on the way home from school. Do you know what that was by any chance.??

Soyer, you are not answering my questions.

Is it because you are not from Kücük Kaymakli and were never taken as a prisoner and kept at a old Monastery, and everything else you have written is just bits and pieces of information written by others before, but you tried to make it as your own experience.

Tell the truth Soyer. The fact that you don't know what happened to that little girl is what gave you away, because I doubt her story was ever written anywhere, and I'm certain you have spent couple of days googling to find all you can about her, with no avail, but all those from Kücük Kaymakli would have known about it. I knew about it at the time what happened to her and I was only 8 years old, and here you are at age 12, but have no recollection.

VP was right to warn you to keep your mouth shut and not answer my questions, because he knows too well that when not telling the truth, it is easy to fall into a self made trap, which he has fallen into few times himself.

No more questions for you Soyer, as I find you to be untruthful, therefore you have zero credibility with me, since you are nothing but just another Propagandist and a Provocateur.

You must be very proud of yourself.

[halil]

Kikapu ,
tell us what happened to little girl than we can learn . you might help to Sevgul Uludağ writings as well . İs she missing person ? what is the name of the little girl ? you know missing person's organisations they are looking for these kind of informations .

By the way where is the old Monastery in Küçük kaymakli . İ never notice .

i would like to see this monastery .

[DT.]

Kikapu ,
tell us what happened to little girl than we can learn . you might help to Sevgul Uludağ writings as well . İs she missing person ? what is the name of the little girl ? you know missing person's organisations they are looking for these kind of informations .

By the way where is the old Monastery in Küçük kaymakli . İ never notice .

i would like to see this monastery .

There is no monastery in kaimakli

[Kikapu]

Kikapu ,
tell us what happened to little girl than we can learn . you might help to Sevgul Uludağ writings as well . İs she missing person ? what is the name of the little girl ? you know missing person's organisations they are looking for these kind of informations .

By the way where is the old Monastery in Küçük kaymakli . İ never notice .

i would like to see this monastery .

Halil,

I will keep the little girl's story with me Halil, so that those claiming to be from Kücük Kaymakli in the future better know about what happened to her or else they are not from Kücük Kaymakli as they claim to be, specially if they were atleast 10 years old or older back in 1962/63. Just to ease your mind Halil and others too, the little girl does not fall into the circumstances you have mentioned above.

As for the "old Monastery" that Soyer claims to have been kept as a prisoner, you better ask him where this Monastery is. I was able to remember every detail of my imprisonment at the age of 8, so there is no reason why Soyer can't give as more information at the age of 12 back in 1963.

[halil]

Kikapu ,
tell us what happened to little girl than we can learn . you might help to Sevgul Uludağ writings as well . İs she missing person ? what is the name of the little girl ? you know missing person's organisations they are looking for these kind of informations .

By the way where is the old Monastery in Küçük kaymakli . İ never notice .

i would like to see this monastery .

Halil,

I will keep the little girl's story with me Halil, so that those claiming to be from Kücük Kaymakli in the future better know about what happened to her or else they are not from Kücük Kaymakli as they claim to be, specially if they were atleast 10 years old or older back in 1962/63. Just to ease your mind Halil and others too, the little girl does not fall into the circumstances you have mentioned above.

As for the "old Monastery" that Soyer claims to have been kept as a prisoner, you better ask him where this Monastery is. I was able to remember every detail of my imprisonment at the age of 8, so there is no reason why Soyer can't give as more information at the age of 12 back in 1963.

Kikapu ,
i can learn about little girl .

Thanks to DT that there is no monastery at kaymakli .

when i find out about little girl i will share with forum members .

in 63 i was 7 years old and i can remember many things about those days . People are always remembers if some thing effects about their life or loved ones .
doesn't mean we must not think positive for our future . İt is not the time to talk about past all the time .
our leaders are talking now . Give them a chance

[soyer]

Kikapu ,
tell us what happened to little girl than we can learn . you might help to Sevgul Uludağ writings as well . İs she missing person ? what is the name of the little girl ? you know missing person's organisations they are looking for these kind of informations .

By the way where is the old Monastery in Küçük kaymakli . İ never notice .

i would like to see this monastery .

No Halil that Monastery is not in K.Kaymakli, like i say in my post before not to far from Nicosia because i remember on the way to Monastery going true Nicosia along Nicosia old walls (Hısar). My family house in K.Kaymakli was only about few hundred yard far-off from Sevgül Uludağ's family house. Her family, Grandfather CİCi that was his nickname, aunt and young uncle Metin manage to escape to Nicosia before EOKA (Greeks) brutality.

Kikapu must have read one of my previous post, where i say i am from Vatily it is true. My family and i lived in Vadily until 1960 and then move to K.Kaymakli.

Kikapu you keep investigating about me i am sure you'll come up with many things.

But never forget i hate interrogattion by Greek i had that before.

if you like to have my answers ask straightforward and be ready to reply my questions.

WHERE WERE YOU IN 1963 AND WHERE YOU FROM

[halil]

Kikapu ,
tell us what happened to little girl than we can learn . you might help to Sevgul Uludağ writings as well . İs she missing person ? what is the name of the little girl ? you know missing person's organisations they are looking for these kind of informations .

By the way where is the old Monastery in Küçük kaymakli . İ never notice .

i would like to see this monastery .

No Halil that Monastery is not in K.Kaymakli, like i say in my post before not to far from Nicosia because i remember on the way to Monastery going true Nicosia along Nicosia old walls (Hısar). My family house in K.Kaymakli was only about few hundred yard far-off from Sevgül Uludağ's family house. Her family, Grandfather CİCi that was his nickname, aunt and young uncle Metin manage to escape to Nicosia before EOKA (Greeks) brutality.

Kikapu must have read one of my previous post, where i say i am from Vatily it is true. My family and i lived in Vadily until 1960 and then move to K.Kaymakli.

Kikapu you keep investigating about me i am sure you'll come up with many things.

But never forget i hate interrogattion by Greek i had that before.

if you like to have my answers ask straightforward and be ready to reply my questions.

WHERE WERE YOU IN 1963 AND WHERE YOU FROM

thanks Soyer ,

if you are asking to me , i was at village called Dağyolu (Fota) in 63 .

for me all of them past now . i am looking forward .
no one can deny our past it is there . they are all well documented by united nations and by history books .

UN's and rest of the worlds knows the truths that's why we are at the one side of the table .

There might be differences between both sides .One day they can find the way . The way should satisfay both sides .

Some how Kikapu thinks he is always right let him to think like that , at the end we , the TC's and GC's will decide what will happen in Cyprus not the Cypriots who are living at abroad . Let him to talk .

He knows these expressions very well ....

Davulun sesi uzaktan güzel gelir (Drum sound comes nice from away )

Kedi Ciğere uzanamayınca Mundardır der ( when the cat could not reach to liver , says it is dirty )

[soyer]

Kikapu you keep investigating about me i am sure you'll come up with many things.

But never forget i hate interrogattion by Greek i had that before.

if you like to have my answers ask straightforward and be ready to reply my questions.

WHERE WERE YOU IN 1963 AND WHERE YOU FROM
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Thanks Halil,
Sorry my fault not making clear, above was address to Kikapu, I don't understand what his trying to prove. I don't even know if he is Greek or Turkish but i notice he is using a Turkish keyboard very hard to belive existence of Turkish like Kikapu.

[repulsewarrior]

soyer, i am curious, is it hard to imagine that you would meet a Greek like me?

this thread and this conversation is very interesting. i found soyer's story very touching. if it is true, i am glad that at least he can talk about this misery. either way too many of us suffered a similar fate, and this blood must count for something, where we have the same contempt, their lives are wasted.

dearest halil, your hope touches me. please read the Manifesto, study it because you are well enough informed.

i need your help. you more than anyone else is able to understand that all these ideas are not new, but as a primitive my work on this subject is a synopsis of the recollections I have from reading newspapers, and living this anxiety all my life.

...also if you would be so kind, may I have a link for Mehemet Ali Talat, to send him this Manifesto, the web site for his Office does not seem to function, and he may find it of interest as well.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772

[Kikapu]

Some how Kikapu thinks he is always right let him to think like that , at the end we , the TC's and GC's will decide what will happen in Cyprus not the Cypriots who are living at abroad . Let him to talk .

I'm sorry to disappoint you Halil, but I have just as much right to put my views forward regarding Cyprus as you do. Where one lives is totally irrelevant as long as they are Cypriots, or do you only pick and choose as to which TC's can talk and who cannot, depending whether they agree with your point of view or not. I thought Dictartorship that you were forced to accept under Denktash for the last 30+ years was over and have been enjoying some form of Democracy since his departure, but I see from your post, that you are missing the days of Denktash, where everyone was forced to be in the same line of thinking.

I know old habits are hard to get rid off Halil, but hang in there my friend, because there is some hope on the horizon for people like you to experience True Democracy soon. I hope you will be able to handle it when it arrives.!!

He knows these expressions very well ....

Davulun sesi uzaktan güzel gelir (Drum sound comes nice from away )

Kedi Ciğere uzanamayınca Mundardır der ( when the cat could not reach to liver , says it is dirty )

Halil, you have forgotten to mention the most important one;

"Dogruyu Söyleyeni 9 Köyden Kovarlar"

" One who tells the truth, is chased from 9 villages"