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Postby miltiades » Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:07 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Niki wrote:I just think it was saying "na na na na naaaah", so pathetic! :lol:

Let me get this right however as I am confused, someone who lives in Australia (or has been back for 2 weeks) is telling people who live in Cyprus that they should fit in better and be less bigoted? Without living in Cyprus or knowing anything about the people that are being accused?

Ah I GET IT! Freedom of speech. 8)

So far in Cyprus (only 1 year but learning) freedom of speech has been on a par with the UK, maybe a little better in fact. I agree that some Brits can be racist and make the mistake of refusing to integrate but certainly not all and certainly not the members on this forum that have been accused of this. The CL members may not be the people you would want as best friends but they are decent enough people and don't deserve the treatment they received. I also believe that if they tried the same trick on this forum they would be ostracised immediately. Freedom of speech would not be allowed here.

Also it may be a good thing to read back on member's posts to understand what they're like before making assumptions.

I maybe an old bat though, you'll never know! 8)


Listen, I have been to Cyprus 5 times and collectively have stayed in Cyprus just a bit under 1 year. Even I would need to assimilate to Cypriot culture because having grown in Australia and gone through the Australian education system and the service I gave it for so long has kind of moulded me in a particular way.

I will also let you know, that today I also hold Cypriot citizenship and a Cyprus ID card and I am very proud of that. I also own my very own house in Pafos. I am also obligated to serve the CNG if I move to Cyprus.

And you have no right to speak to me like this for many reasons. Firstly, many Cypriots in Australia are very active politically. After my discharge from the military, I have been extremely active within the Liberal Party. I interact freely amongst sitting members, senators and MLCs. I attend many functions just for the sole reason of having an opportunity to lobby them on many things about Cyprus. I entertain many of them at my house. One such individual who is very well known to me is the former Foreign Affairs Minister of Australia, The Honorable Alexander Downer who will be the next UN envoy on Cyprus!

I would also like to point out that my wife is a refugee. Her family lost their house along with thousands of others, when Turkey invaded in 74. They moved to Australia out of necessity and since then have rebounded in way that only refugees can. By shear determination and hard work they rebuilt their lives from nothing. My wife's father, served in 74 and was captured by the Turkish Army. He was a POW and was 1 of the 800 that were transferred to a Turkish concentration camp in Adana (Turkey). There is footage of these POWs in the BBC archives. The mere fact that these 800 men survived and are not "missing" is due to pure circumstance. They are all lucky to be alive today as the Red Cross new of their capture and registered them as POWs which allowed for their protection under the Geneva Convention.

My point is, that many of us here in Australia and elsewhere have contributed to Cyprus in their own way. Many of us are citizens and have properties and other business interests in Cyprus. Many will no doubt move back to Cyprus. I can tell you that this is my ultimate dream, but for professional reasons we choose not to or are perhaps not ready for such a move. I do have my own Cyprus residence, so am able to visit the island whenever possible.

What is a definite fact is that Cyprus is part of my heritage and is also my inheritance. And I am very proud to be a Cypriot as well as an Australian. You however, only move to Cyprus to better your "lifestyle" whilst being indifferent to the islands problems. If you tell me that you are not indifferent, then I will tell you that you have made no contribution as a citizen to Cyprus and are merely using Cyprus to improve your "living". I will tell that such migrants are definitely not welcome to Australia as you would contribute nothing to the nation's enrichment!

Regards

Niki I would ignore this very ignorant Cypriot impostor whose contribution to the Cyprus problem is as eventful as a fireman dosing a fire with petrol.
He knows absolutely nothing about you or indeed about anything or anyone , he likes his own " interpretation" and takes great pride in forming "strategic" alliances with those that share his scatological philosophies , all malakes as far as I'm concerned !!
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:31 pm

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Niki wrote:I just think it was saying "na na na na naaaah", so pathetic! :lol:

Let me get this right however as I am confused, someone who lives in Australia (or has been back for 2 weeks) is telling people who live in Cyprus that they should fit in better and be less bigoted? Without living in Cyprus or knowing anything about the people that are being accused?

Ah I GET IT! Freedom of speech. 8)

So far in Cyprus (only 1 year but learning) freedom of speech has been on a par with the UK, maybe a little better in fact. I agree that some Brits can be racist and make the mistake of refusing to integrate but certainly not all and certainly not the members on this forum that have been accused of this. The CL members may not be the people you would want as best friends but they are decent enough people and don't deserve the treatment they received. I also believe that if they tried the same trick on this forum they would be ostracised immediately. Freedom of speech would not be allowed here.

Also it may be a good thing to read back on member's posts to understand what they're like before making assumptions.

I maybe an old bat though, you'll never know! 8)


Listen, I have been to Cyprus 5 times and collectively have stayed in Cyprus just a bit under 1 year. Even I would need to assimilate to Cypriot culture because having grown in Australia and gone through the Australian education system and the service I gave it for so long has kind of moulded me in a particular way.

I will also let you know, that today I also hold Cypriot citizenship and a Cyprus ID card and I am very proud of that. I also own my very own house in Pafos. I am also obligated to serve the CNG if I move to Cyprus.

And you have no right to speak to me like this for many reasons. Firstly, many Cypriots in Australia are very active politically. After my discharge from the military, I have been extremely active within the Liberal Party. I interact freely amongst sitting members, senators and MLCs. I attend many functions just for the sole reason of having an opportunity to lobby them on many things about Cyprus. I entertain many of them at my house. One such individual who is very well known to me is the former Foreign Affairs Minister of Australia, The Honorable Alexander Downer who will be the next UN envoy on Cyprus!

I would also like to point out that my wife is a refugee. Her family lost their house along with thousands of others, when Turkey invaded in 74. They moved to Australia out of necessity and since then have rebounded in way that only refugees can. By shear determination and hard work they rebuilt their lives from nothing. My wife's father, served in 74 and was captured by the Turkish Army. He was a POW and was 1 of the 800 that were transferred to a Turkish concentration camp in Adana (Turkey). There is footage of these POWs in the BBC archives. The mere fact that these 800 men survived and are not "missing" is due to pure circumstance. They are all lucky to be alive today as the Red Cross new of their capture and registered them as POWs which allowed for their protection under the Geneva Convention.

My point is, that many of us here in Australia and elsewhere have contributed to Cyprus in their own way. Many of us are citizens and have properties and other business interests in Cyprus. Many will no doubt move back to Cyprus. I can tell you that this is my ultimate dream, but for professional reasons we choose not to or are perhaps not ready for such a move. I do have my own Cyprus residence, so am able to visit the island whenever possible.

What is a definite fact is that Cyprus is part of my heritage and is also my inheritance. And I am very proud to be a Cypriot as well as an Australian. You however, only move to Cyprus to better your "lifestyle" whilst being indifferent to the islands problems. If you tell me that you are not indifferent, then I will tell you that you have made no contribution as a citizen to Cyprus and are merely using Cyprus to improve your "living". I will tell that such migrants are definitely not welcome to Australia as you would contribute nothing to the nation's enrichment!

Regards


Posted again to avoid any nasty interuption from a certain belligerant. :roll:

And I certainly look forward to that waste of Cypriot airpace called Niki replying to this post and defending her lack of contributing to the enrichment of Cyprus.
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Postby perdike » Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:44 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Niki wrote:I just think it was saying "na na na na naaaah", so pathetic! :lol:

Let me get this right however as I am confused, someone who lives in Australia (or has been back for 2 weeks) is telling people who live in Cyprus that they should fit in better and be less bigoted? Without living in Cyprus or knowing anything about the people that are being accused?

Ah I GET IT! Freedom of speech. 8)

So far in Cyprus (only 1 year but learning) freedom of speech has been on a par with the UK, maybe a little better in fact. I agree that some Brits can be racist and make the mistake of refusing to integrate but certainly not all and certainly not the members on this forum that have been accused of this. The CL members may not be the people you would want as best friends but they are decent enough people and don't deserve the treatment they received. I also believe that if they tried the same trick on this forum they would be ostracised immediately. Freedom of speech would not be allowed here.

Also it may be a good thing to read back on member's posts to understand what they're like before making assumptions.

I maybe an old bat though, you'll never know! 8)


Listen, I have been to Cyprus 5 times and collectively have stayed in Cyprus just a bit under 1 year. Even I would need to assimilate to Cypriot culture because having grown in Australia and gone through the Australian education system and the service I gave it for so long has kind of moulded me in a particular way.

I will also let you know, that today I also hold Cypriot citizenship and a Cyprus ID card and I am very proud of that. I also own my very own house in Pafos. I am also obligated to serve the CNG if I move to Cyprus.

And you have no right to speak to me like this for many reasons. Firstly, many Cypriots in Australia are very active politically. After my discharge from the military, I have been extremely active within the Liberal Party. I interact freely amongst sitting members, senators and MLCs. I attend many functions just for the sole reason of having an opportunity to lobby them on many things about Cyprus. I entertain many of them at my house. One such individual who is very well known to me is the former Foreign Affairs Minister of Australia, The Honorable Alexander Downer who will be the next UN envoy on Cyprus!

I would also like to point out that my wife is a refugee. Her family lost their house along with thousands of others, when Turkey invaded in 74. They moved to Australia out of necessity and since then have rebounded in way that only refugees can. By shear determination and hard work they rebuilt their lives from nothing. My wife's father, served in 74 and was captured by the Turkish Army. He was a POW and was 1 of the 800 that were transferred to a Turkish concentration camp in Adana (Turkey). There is footage of these POWs in the BBC archives. The mere fact that these 800 men survived and are not "missing" is due to pure circumstance. They are all lucky to be alive today as the Red Cross new of their capture and registered them as POWs which allowed for their protection under the Geneva Convention.

My point is, that many of us here in Australia and elsewhere have contributed to Cyprus in their own way. Many of us are citizens and have properties and other business interests in Cyprus. Many will no doubt move back to Cyprus. I can tell you that this is my ultimate dream, but for professional reasons we choose not to or are perhaps not ready for such a move. I do have my own Cyprus residence, so am able to visit the island whenever possible.

What is a definite fact is that Cyprus is part of my heritage and is also my inheritance. And I am very proud to be a Cypriot as well as an Australian. You however, only move to Cyprus to better your "lifestyle" whilst being indifferent to the islands problems. If you tell me that you are not indifferent, then I will tell you that you have made no contribution as a citizen to Cyprus and are merely using Cyprus to improve your "living". I will tell that such migrants are definitely not welcome to Australia as you would contribute nothing to the nation's enrichment!

Regards


Posted again to avoid any nasty interuption from a certain belligerant. :roll:

And I certainly look forward to that waste of Cypriot airpace called Niki replying to this post and defending her lack of contributing to the enrichment of Cyprus.


Niki and Feisty both conveniently gone AWOL . . . . . must have had a taxing week "GETTING ON WITH IT" , not to mention, "JUST GETTING OVER IT"
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Postby RichardB » Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:46 pm

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Niki wrote:I just think it was saying "na na na na naaaah", so pathetic! :lol:

Let me get this right however as I am confused, someone who lives in Australia (or has been back for 2 weeks) is telling people who live in Cyprus that they should fit in better and be less bigoted? Without living in Cyprus or knowing anything about the people that are being accused?

Ah I GET IT! Freedom of speech. 8)

So far in Cyprus (only 1 year but learning) freedom of speech has been on a par with the UK, maybe a little better in fact. I agree that some Brits can be racist and make the mistake of refusing to integrate but certainly not all and certainly not the members on this forum that have been accused of this. The CL members may not be the people you would want as best friends but they are decent enough people and don't deserve the treatment they received. I also believe that if they tried the same trick on this forum they would be ostracised immediately. Freedom of speech would not be allowed here.

Also it may be a good thing to read back on member's posts to understand what they're like before making assumptions.

I maybe an old bat though, you'll never know! 8)


Listen, I have been to Cyprus 5 times and collectively have stayed in Cyprus just a bit under 1 year. Even I would need to assimilate to Cypriot culture because having grown in Australia and gone through the Australian education system and the service I gave it for so long has kind of moulded me in a particular way.

I will also let you know, that today I also hold Cypriot citizenship and a Cyprus ID card and I am very proud of that. I also own my very own house in Pafos. I am also obligated to serve the CNG if I move to Cyprus.

And you have no right to speak to me like this for many reasons. Firstly, many Cypriots in Australia are very active politically. After my discharge from the military, I have been extremely active within the Liberal Party. I interact freely amongst sitting members, senators and MLCs. I attend many functions just for the sole reason of having an opportunity to lobby them on many things about Cyprus. I entertain many of them at my house. One such individual who is very well known to me is the former Foreign Affairs Minister of Australia, The Honorable Alexander Downer who will be the next UN envoy on Cyprus!

I would also like to point out that my wife is a refugee. Her family lost their house along with thousands of others, when Turkey invaded in 74. They moved to Australia out of necessity and since then have rebounded in way that only refugees can. By shear determination and hard work they rebuilt their lives from nothing. My wife's father, served in 74 and was captured by the Turkish Army. He was a POW and was 1 of the 800 that were transferred to a Turkish concentration camp in Adana (Turkey). There is footage of these POWs in the BBC archives. The mere fact that these 800 men survived and are not "missing" is due to pure circumstance. They are all lucky to be alive today as the Red Cross new of their capture and registered them as POWs which allowed for their protection under the Geneva Convention.

My point is, that many of us here in Australia and elsewhere have contributed to Cyprus in their own way. Many of us are citizens and have properties and other business interests in Cyprus. Many will no doubt move back to Cyprus. I can tell you that this is my ultimate dream, but for professional reasons we choose not to or are perhaps not ready for such a move. I do have my own Cyprus residence, so am able to visit the island whenever possible.

What is a definite fact is that Cyprus is part of my heritage and is also my inheritance. And I am very proud to be a Cypriot as well as an Australian. You however, only move to Cyprus to better your "lifestyle" whilst being indifferent to the islands problems. If you tell me that you are not indifferent, then I will tell you that you have made no contribution as a citizen to Cyprus and are merely using Cyprus to improve your "living". I will tell that such migrants are definitely not welcome to Australia as you would contribute nothing to the nation's enrichment!

Regards

Niki I would ignore this very ignorant Cypriot impostor whose contribution to the Cyprus problem is as eventful as a fireman dosing a fire with petrol.
He knows absolutely nothing about you or indeed about anything or anyone , he likes his own " interpretation" and takes great pride in forming "strategic" alliances with those that share his scatological philosophies , all malakes as far as I'm concerned !!


It seems recently miltiades that anyone who opposes your point of view is considered ripe for abuse

I thought Paphitis gave a perfectly rational and well presented reply to nikis post

Let me get this right however as I am confused, someone who lives in Australia (or has been back for 2 weeks) is telling people who live in Cyprus that they should fit in better and be less bigoted? Without living in Cyprus or knowing anything about the people that are being accused?


All members of this forum are entitled to give their views. Without fear of being abused.

It seems that since the withdrawal from forum of certain members that Pappou Krasi thinks he is untouchable and that no-one should be allowed to oppose his views

At your age ...please grow up
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Postby miltiades » Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:56 pm

RichardB wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Niki wrote:I just think it was saying "na na na na naaaah", so pathetic! :lol:

Let me get this right however as I am confused, someone who lives in Australia (or has been back for 2 weeks) is telling people who live in Cyprus that they should fit in better and be less bigoted? Without living in Cyprus or knowing anything about the people that are being accused?

Ah I GET IT! Freedom of speech. 8)

So far in Cyprus (only 1 year but learning) freedom of speech has been on a par with the UK, maybe a little better in fact. I agree that some Brits can be racist and make the mistake of refusing to integrate but certainly not all and certainly not the members on this forum that have been accused of this. The CL members may not be the people you would want as best friends but they are decent enough people and don't deserve the treatment they received. I also believe that if they tried the same trick on this forum they would be ostracised immediately. Freedom of speech would not be allowed here.

Also it may be a good thing to read back on member's posts to understand what they're like before making assumptions.

I maybe an old bat though, you'll never know! 8)


Listen, I have been to Cyprus 5 times and collectively have stayed in Cyprus just a bit under 1 year. Even I would need to assimilate to Cypriot culture because having grown in Australia and gone through the Australian education system and the service I gave it for so long has kind of moulded me in a particular way.

I will also let you know, that today I also hold Cypriot citizenship and a Cyprus ID card and I am very proud of that. I also own my very own house in Pafos. I am also obligated to serve the CNG if I move to Cyprus.

And you have no right to speak to me like this for many reasons. Firstly, many Cypriots in Australia are very active politically. After my discharge from the military, I have been extremely active within the Liberal Party. I interact freely amongst sitting members, senators and MLCs. I attend many functions just for the sole reason of having an opportunity to lobby them on many things about Cyprus. I entertain many of them at my house. One such individual who is very well known to me is the former Foreign Affairs Minister of Australia, The Honorable Alexander Downer who will be the next UN envoy on Cyprus!

I would also like to point out that my wife is a refugee. Her family lost their house along with thousands of others, when Turkey invaded in 74. They moved to Australia out of necessity and since then have rebounded in way that only refugees can. By shear determination and hard work they rebuilt their lives from nothing. My wife's father, served in 74 and was captured by the Turkish Army. He was a POW and was 1 of the 800 that were transferred to a Turkish concentration camp in Adana (Turkey). There is footage of these POWs in the BBC archives. The mere fact that these 800 men survived and are not "missing" is due to pure circumstance. They are all lucky to be alive today as the Red Cross new of their capture and registered them as POWs which allowed for their protection under the Geneva Convention.

My point is, that many of us here in Australia and elsewhere have contributed to Cyprus in their own way. Many of us are citizens and have properties and other business interests in Cyprus. Many will no doubt move back to Cyprus. I can tell you that this is my ultimate dream, but for professional reasons we choose not to or are perhaps not ready for such a move. I do have my own Cyprus residence, so am able to visit the island whenever possible.

What is a definite fact is that Cyprus is part of my heritage and is also my inheritance. And I am very proud to be a Cypriot as well as an Australian. You however, only move to Cyprus to better your "lifestyle" whilst being indifferent to the islands problems. If you tell me that you are not indifferent, then I will tell you that you have made no contribution as a citizen to Cyprus and are merely using Cyprus to improve your "living". I will tell that such migrants are definitely not welcome to Australia as you would contribute nothing to the nation's enrichment!

Regards

Niki I would ignore this very ignorant Cypriot impostor whose contribution to the Cyprus problem is as eventful as a fireman dosing a fire with petrol.
He knows absolutely nothing about you or indeed about anything or anyone , he likes his own " interpretation" and takes great pride in forming "strategic" alliances with those that share his scatological philosophies , all malakes as far as I'm concerned !!


It seems recently miltiades that anyone who opposes your point of view is considered ripe for abuse

I thought Paphitis gave a perfectly rational and well presented reply to nikis post

Let me get this right however as I am confused, someone who lives in Australia (or has been back for 2 weeks) is telling people who live in Cyprus that they should fit in better and be less bigoted? Without living in Cyprus or knowing anything about the people that are being accused?


All members of this forum are entitled to give their views. Without fear of being abused.

It seems that since the withdrawal from forum of certain members that Pappou Krasi thinks he is untouchable and that no-one should be allowed to oppose his views

At your age ...please grow up


Richard , let me tell you something.This individual took it upon himself to spread malicious defamations of charachter against me. I do not tolerate fools easily. This is what this individual posted 10 minutes ago :

"It is not my interpretation but a translation of Bananiot's post in simple language so that simpletons such as yourself can understand the discriminatory solution that HE and YOU are pushing for on behalf of your masters."""
I responded in kind , would you kindly mind your own business , When I'm insulted I hit back and so should you. Have I ever insulted you ?
I offered this Australian clown my apologies and my hand , he rejected it just as the other wanker did some time back.
My integrity matters a great deal to me and when some bloody idiot attacks me with vicious malignant abuse ( TRAITOR HE CALLS ME ) THEN I
RESPOND IN KIND.
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:18 pm

You previously to that had responded to a post that was not aimed at you.

I will respond further at another time about your hypocrisies and lack of ability to accept opposing views.

Suffice to say, Bananiot tempted fate by calling all those rejectionists as he put it, right wing and anti peace. This kind of attitude is a slander to all those that do not want to accept any solution that is not founded on democratic principles. Both of you have this recalcitrant attitude and it is deserving of the response it received, which was also not offensive BTW. Offence could have been taken by Bananiot's post. It implied that all those that oppose his version of a solution are extremist right wing and anti peace for insisting on a fair deal and not accepting his version of a solution. As if he is the only person here that really wants a solution. We all want a solution, but many of us will not accept any solution.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:36 pm

Paphitis wrote:You previously to that had responded to a post that was not aimed at you.

I will respond further at another time about your hypocrisies and lack of ability to accept opposing views.

Suffice to say, Bananiot tempted fate by calling all those rejectionists as he put it, right wing and anti peace. This kind of attitude is a slander to all those that do not want to accept any solution that is not founded on democratic principles. Both of you have this recalcitrant attitude and it is deserving of the response it received, which was also not offensive BTW. Offence could have been taken by Bananiot's post. It implied that all those that oppose his version of a solution are extremist right wing and anti peace for insisting on a fair deal and not accepting his version of a solution. As if he is the only person here that really wants a solution. We all want a solution, but many of us will not accept any solution.

Most certainly I will not accept any solution , my stance against the AP has been highlighted many times over the last couple of years on this forum , and it is in variance with the views of Bananiot .
Those that are rejecting the continuation of negotiations and are implying that ONLY WAR can achieve the rightful solution are in my opinion extremists , nonconstructive and highly damaging to the efforts by our government to arrive at a solution. Our hand is today the strongest it has ever been and allowing our impatience to determine the course to follow which would lead to an abyss is anathema to our cause. Don't you carry on believing that ONLY PAPHITIS cares about Cyprus and only you has a right to air an opinion , dismissing those that oppose yours as traitors.
I was born in Cyprus and lived in Cyprus until the age of 15 , was active in the ANE and proud of mu minuscule contribution , now I'm 62 and a grandfather with a son in law in the CNG , how dare you call me a traitor and refuse to apologise ?
You rejected my gesture of good will instead you come back after a break and straight away you begin to insult a man old enough to be your father.
Well mate I don't take shit from you as you no doubt have gathered by now.
Want to be friends , be nice and I will respond.
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Postby halil » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:49 pm

İ see why we never get balanced view from Australian's :lol:

How we can trust the Alexander Downer ?

Does he likes eating ? İ got the man . My first question will be for him below claims by Greek Cypriot lobbies BAFİDİ .

You see how the international organisations works .They works by entertainments .What kind of fantasies do you have New UN representatives to Cyprus ?

And you have no right to speak to me like this for many reasons. Firstly, many Cypriots in Australia are very active politically. After my discharge from the military, I have been extremely active within the Liberal Party. I interact freely amongst sitting members, senators and MLCs. I attend many functions just for the sole reason of having an opportunity to lobby them on many things about Cyprus. I entertain many of them at my house. One such individual who is very well known to me is the former Foreign Affairs Minister of Australia, The Honorable Alexander Downer who will be the next UN envoy on Cyprus! [size=18][/size]
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Postby Feisty » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:53 pm

perdike wrote:
perdike wrote:
Feisty wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Feisty wrote:I'm sorry but a lot of you speak as though the Cyprus problem should consume our every waking moment. Well it doesn't and never will. Whilst understanding it's close to your hearts I'm afraid that it isn't many others', Cypriots as well as ex-pats. While it's effects are still on-going for a lot of you, for the average person it is an incident that happened 34 years ago and life has moved forward.


To you all I can say is that if you choose our country as your residence, then you can assimilate by learning our customs, and language. You could also appreciate our tiny country's environmental issues, and political problems. Assimilate into Cypriot culture or nick off! Is that not what many of you use to say to migrants in the UK. Are you a hypocrite?


Why is it you never read properly? I never said that the problem wasn't appreciated, I said that it didn't consume people's everyday lives and that goes for most Cypriots as well as ex-pats.
As for appreciating environmental issues I don't it's ex-pats washing their drives etc and using water like it was going out of fashion.
ps. I haven't chosen Cyprus as my country of residence yet and have certainly never said that anyone should integrate. The fact is that people don't integrate with different cultures (in general) whoever they are. As Magnus said above, people gravitate to what is comfortable and that is to their own kind (for want of a better word). Also, in general, people don't want immigrants to integrate really. People's social circles revolve round just that.[/quote




Feisty,
When you have 'used up' Cyprus with all your "getting on' and 'living' dont even THINK of coming to New Zealand to do a bit more 'getting on with life', because here we want fellow humans who appreciate what is HERE, who will take time to understand their new home, its history and its customs, and we most certainly DO want citizens who will INTEGRATE and think of helping this nation to flourish as well as calculating how they can best milk it for themselves. We don't want day-trippers scouting around for the best bargain, without interest or empathy for what we are trying to evolve here.

Whats wrong with Blighty then? Too many foreigners?

WHERE ARE YOU FEISTY? . . . . silly me, she's getting on with living, putting anything too taxing behind her into history.



Seems Paphitis and I share a few ideas about INTEGRATING into the country one adopts.

Its not a one way street. Disagree all you like with policies, but do so from an INFORMED UNDERSTANDING.

It seems some "ex-pats" moved to 'GET AWAY FROM' rather to embrace a positive.


Blimey some of you are real hard work.
Read my post.
I DO NOT LIVE IN CYPRUS AND HAVE NOT LEFT THE UK.
I WELCOME IMMIGRANTS INTO THE UK BUT DO NOT EXPECT THEM TO BECOME OR EVEN WANT TO BECOME PART OF MY SOCIAL CIRCLE.
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Postby Feisty » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:57 pm

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Niki and Feisty both conveniently gone AWOL . . . . . must have had a taxing week "GETTING ON WITH IT" , not to mention, "JUST GETTING OVER IT"


Eeeeerrr no.
Unlike some I have a life outside the forum and just dip in and out once a day or so.
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