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[DT.]

Wishful thinking DT Turkeys economy is more robust than is was in the past and departure from the EU would mean new pastures and new areas of economic development, where would that leave you guys with regards to a solution? up the swanny with no paddle me thinks.

What new pastures? What new areas? Your market is the EU. Your chief employer is the EU. More and more European car manufacturers are moving into Turkey, setting up shop and employing your labour. If all ties are severed with the EU no company will be able to feel safe in an unstable Turkey.

Trust me, my fund is a heavy investor in Turkey.

[Viewpoint]

Wishful thinking DT Turkeys economy is more robust than is was in the past and departure from the EU would mean new pastures and new areas of economic development, where would that leave you guys with regards to a solution? up the swanny with no paddle me thinks.

What new pastures? What new areas? Your market is the EU. Your chief employer is the EU. More and more European car manufacturers are moving into Turkey, setting up shop and employing your labour. If all ties are severed with the EU no company will be able to feel safe in an unstable Turkey.

Trust me, my fund is a heavy investor in Turkey.

The Turkic markets are new pastures, oil exploration and extraction are new markets, Turkey has a young weel educated and developing work force who will make headway into new pastures, the EU can kiss this work force goodbye, who will pay for your pensions watch the EU fall to pieces in 20 years when there will be no net contributors left, it will be every country for themselves, Turkey imo is better off going it alone.

[roseandchan]

nike tshirts are now made in turkey. i puchased a designer label top also made in turkey. it must be better to keep business in the e.u fold, rather than buy from china.

[DT.]

Wishful thinking DT Turkeys economy is more robust than is was in the past and departure from the EU would mean new pastures and new areas of economic development, where would that leave you guys with regards to a solution? up the swanny with no paddle me thinks.

What new pastures? What new areas? Your market is the EU. Your chief employer is the EU. More and more European car manufacturers are moving into Turkey, setting up shop and employing your labour. If all ties are severed with the EU no company will be able to feel safe in an unstable Turkey.

Trust me, my fund is a heavy investor in Turkey.

The Turkic markets are new pastures, oil exploration and extraction are new markets, Turkey has a young weel educated and developing work force who will make headway into new pastures, the EU can kiss this work force goodbye, who will pay for your pensions watch the EU fall to pieces in 20 years when there will be no net contributors left, it will be every country for themselves, Turkey imo is better off going it alone.

VP doesn't understand the difference of a market that will help make your stuff and a market that can afford to buy your stuff.

[Viewpoint]

Wishful thinking DT Turkeys economy is more robust than is was in the past and departure from the EU would mean new pastures and new areas of economic development, where would that leave you guys with regards to a solution? up the swanny with no paddle me thinks.

What new pastures? What new areas? Your market is the EU. Your chief employer is the EU. More and more European car manufacturers are moving into Turkey, setting up shop and employing your labour. If all ties are severed with the EU no company will be able to feel safe in an unstable Turkey.

Trust me, my fund is a heavy investor in Turkey.

The Turkic markets are new pastures, oil exploration and extraction are new markets, Turkey has a young weel educated and developing work force who will make headway into new pastures, the EU can kiss this work force goodbye, who will pay for your pensions watch the EU fall to pieces in 20 years when there will be no net contributors left, it will be every country for themselves, Turkey imo is better off going it alone.

VP doesn't understand the difference of a market that will help make your stuff and a market that can afford to buy your stuff.

Those markets are hungry for all types of goods Turkey can produce, so Turkey good will find outlets elsewhere, all this doom and gloom about Turkey economy is neither here nor there the bottom line is without Turkey on EU course you GCs have no leverage over Turkey end of story. So you can work it out if its in your best interests to keep Turkey interested in the EU membership, I have expressed my views many times so I wont repeat them.

[denizaksulu]

Halil , my posting of this is to highlight the immense difference between the T/Cs and mainland Turkey. I can not possibly imagine Turkish Cypriots debating for months on end whether their women folk should or should not wear scarves.
The decision of the Turkish courts will have serious repercussions on the democratic principles applied in Turkey.
I think it is an absolute fundamental right of citizens in a democracy to dress as they please , not however according to the Turkish courts.This shows a weakness in the application of democratic principles and T/Cs ought to take this with some seriousness.

The problem for Turkey my friend is that if they DO they are damned, if they DONT they are damned. If they relaxed the law, I think it would disappear altogether. (These stupid headscarves that is). They remind me of the Russian Babushka dolls.

[denizaksulu]

doesnt matter what you wear. its important how u live.

A very interesting clip Gavcar.

Thanks

[Tim Drayton]

Wishful thinking DT Turkeys economy is more robust than is was in the past and departure from the EU would mean new pastures and new areas of economic development, where would that leave you guys with regards to a solution? up the swanny with no paddle me thinks.

What new pastures? What new areas? Your market is the EU. Your chief employer is the EU. More and more European car manufacturers are moving into Turkey, setting up shop and employing your labour. If all ties are severed with the EU no company will be able to feel safe in an unstable Turkey.

Trust me, my fund is a heavy investor in Turkey.

The important point here is the customs union with the European Union that came into effect at the end of 1995. Manufacturers can freely export their products from Turkey to the European Union, and that is all they need. Whether or not Turkey eventually acquires full EU membership is largely irrelevant from their point of view - in some respects, it would even be a disadvantage given the additional regulations and labour rights that would come into force.

You must be aware of predictions that car production in Turkey will rise from the current 1.3 million to 2 million in 2012. Two more major world players are said to be considering major investments in manufacturing plant in Turkey. Another interesting development is that certain Turkish car manufacturers are planning to move some of their production to Russia and Romania to take advantage of cheaper labour there.

Turkey is a real enigma at the moment. The country is in the grips of probably the gravest political crisis in its history. Public finances are in a mess and foreign debt has risen to over 260 billion dollars. Yet, many sectors of the real economy of flourishing.

Sure, a great many potential foreign investors are spooked by the turmoil which has engulfed the country. However, the Turkish real economy has shown great resilience in the past and has previously rapidly pulled back from many severe crises to resume its upward march.

Given a little political stability, Turkey would rapidly be transformed into a tiger economy. Even if the country continues to lurch from crisis to crisis, the kind of momentum that has been achieved means that long-term growth will most probably continue. The prospect of a strong Turkey can either be a threat or an opportunity for Cyprus. I think it is dangerous for Cyprus to underestimate Turkey's potential.

[Tim Drayton]

No Tim, it is not a translation mistake!

OK, then show me where it says "kurucu devlet" in the text of which you have posted the English translation. I honestly don't have the time or energy to track it down. It must be somewhere on the website for Fetullah Gülen's mouthpiece. I maintain that this is a translation error. I located the original text in the case of the translation of Niyazi Kızılyürek's article published in the Cyprus Observer, and the expression used was "oluşturucu devlet". This time you find the original if this matter is so important to you.