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VP persists in presenting the "TRNC" as the legitimate state in Cyprus while he still considers the ROC as a non entity , macabre to say the least since the "TRNC" is recognised by NONE as he very well knows.

I have told you this before the whole world can recognize you but is that important when you have to agree a solution? can you agree a solution with those nations? No you cannot we the TCs and Turkey matter here and neither of us recognize the "RoC" get that in your head as its us you sit down to find a solution not the rest of the world.

That's rather belligerent and utterly absurd. You are presenting an entity created by force as legitimate and yet the ONLY one recognised by every single nation on earth you declare illegal !!!!!
You say it is with Turkey that we have to negotiate , ( I say we because I include those T/Cs who also feel that Turkey is occupying their nation too ) every one agrees here but its like saying that the hijackers of an aircraft appoint their own captain and recognise him as the ONLY legal entity on that hijacked aircraft which to the entire world it is an illegally hijacked plane but since the legal authorities have to negotiate with the hijackers it makes the hijackers legal !!!
Like it or not , Turkey is the occupier and the ONLY nation recognising their creation.
60 plus thousand of T/Cs are in possession of Cypriot passports , I can assure you the ROC passport contains NO inverted commas , Turkeys position is farcical and just as ludicrous as their recent deliberations as to whether a university female students should or should not wear a scarf , face facts VP.

If you answer the following question honestly you will soon understand the reality of the situation, who do you have to agree a solution with? Youll find the answer is not the rest of the world who recognize the GC state.
Ask those 60 thousand passport holders who pays their wages every month and why they took up the offer of a free passport to ease their travelling and educational needs, the benefits for GCs far outweighs the offer as they can now cliam what you have that these TCs are on your side but quite the opposite they have used you to get what they want but are all clearly living in the TRNC.

Head scarfs are not my problem, Turkey is big and strong enough to sort out her own problems.

[pantheman]

VP persists in presenting the "TRNC" as the legitimate state in Cyprus while he still considers the ROC as a non entity , macabre to say the least since the "TRNC" is recognised by NONE as he very well knows.

I have told you this before the whole world can recognize you but is that important when you have to agree a solution? can you agree a solution with those nations? No you cannot we the TCs and Turkey matter here and neither of us recognize the "RoC" get that in your head as its us you sit down to find a solution not the rest of the world.

VP, you are going fro being dumb to dumber.

Who needs who mate. Who is the EU member, who is the internationally recognised country, who has direct flights , just who do you think you are kidding.

No, you need us more than we do you. If there is no solution then you and your mama can go whistle you will all have nothing.

So, that said now who needs who, moron.

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VP persists in presenting the "TRNC" as the legitimate state in Cyprus while he still considers the ROC as a non entity , macabre to say the least since the "TRNC" is recognised by NONE as he very well knows.

I have told you this before the whole world can recognize you but is that important when you have to agree a solution? can you agree a solution with those nations? No you cannot we the TCs and Turkey matter here and neither of us recognize the "RoC" get that in your head as its us you sit down to find a solution not the rest of the world.

VP, you are going fro being dumb to dumber.

Who needs who mate. Who is the EU member, who is the internationally recognised country, who has direct flights , just who do you think you are kidding.

No, you need us more than we do you. If there is no solution then you and your mama can go whistle you will all have nothing.

So, that said now who needs who, moron.

You appear to be repeating what they taught you in school, we are superior they need us and will yield in the end, been 45 years mate aint gonna happen, one more botched solution and you can kiss the north goodbye forever, we will look after ourselves with Turkeys help just like we have been doing for 34 years, who knows we may even choose to become part of Turkey, 70 million Turks directly on your doorstep waiting to flood your "RoC".

[pantheman]

VP persists in presenting the "TRNC" as the legitimate state in Cyprus while he still considers the ROC as a non entity , macabre to say the least since the "TRNC" is recognised by NONE as he very well knows.

I have told you this before the whole world can recognize you but is that important when you have to agree a solution? can you agree a solution with those nations? No you cannot we the TCs and Turkey matter here and neither of us recognize the "RoC" get that in your head as its us you sit down to find a solution not the rest of the world.

VP, you are going fro being dumb to dumber.

Who needs who mate. Who is the EU member, who is the internationally recognised country, who has direct flights , just who do you think you are kidding.

No, you need us more than we do you. If there is no solution then you and your mama can go whistle you will all have nothing.

So, that said now who needs who, moron.

You appear to be repeating what they taught you in school, we are superior they need us and will yield in the end, been 45 years mate aint gonna happen, one more botched solution and you can kiss the north goodbye forever, we will look after ourselves with Turkeys help just like we have been doing for 34 years, who knows we may even choose to become part of Turkey, 70 million Turks directly on your doorstep waiting to flood your "RoC".

VP, keep talking your bollocks, you might even believ it yourself. School, i don't think so, you don't need to be taught that its so obvious you are about to shoot yourselves in the foot. OOOOH i am so scare 70 million gypsies on our doorstep. Mate, get a reality check, 70m Turks= zero TCs good, if thats what you want then go for it. You will spend the rest of your days unrecognised, no EU membership, nobodies whilst the properous south will go all the way. Then lets see who will be knocking on whos door.

Really, thats all you got, to partition us, well you are seriously just full of shit if thats the best you can come up with. You want to be taking a closer look at whats going on at home otherwise you will be giving BJs to the Turkish generals to let you eat. PLONKER

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VP persists in presenting the "TRNC" as the legitimate state in Cyprus while he still considers the ROC as a non entity , macabre to say the least since the "TRNC" is recognised by NONE as he very well knows.

I have told you this before the whole world can recognize you but is that important when you have to agree a solution? can you agree a solution with those nations? No you cannot we the TCs and Turkey matter here and neither of us recognize the "RoC" get that in your head as its us you sit down to find a solution not the rest of the world.

VP, you are going fro being dumb to dumber.

Who needs who mate. Who is the EU member, who is the internationally recognised country, who has direct flights , just who do you think you are kidding.

No, you need us more than we do you. If there is no solution then you and your mama can go whistle you will all have nothing.

So, that said now who needs who, moron.

You appear to be repeating what they taught you in school, we are superior they need us and will yield in the end, been 45 years mate aint gonna happen, one more botched solution and you can kiss the north goodbye forever, we will look after ourselves with Turkeys help just like we have been doing for 34 years, who knows we may even choose to become part of Turkey, 70 million Turks directly on your doorstep waiting to flood your "RoC".

VP, keep talking your bollocks, you might even believ it yourself. School, i don't think so, you don't need to be taught that its so obvious you are about to shoot yourselves in the foot. OOOOH i am so scare 70 million gypsies on our doorstep. Mate, get a reality check, 70m Turks= zero TCs good, if thats what you want then go for it. You will spend the rest of your days unrecognised, no EU membership, nobodies whilst the properous south will go all the way. Then lets see who will be knocking on whos door.

Really, thats all you got, to partition us, well you are seriously just full of shit if thats the best you can come up with. You want to be taking a closer look at whats going on at home otherwise you will be giving BJs to the Turkish generals to let you eat. PLONKER

Is this the comedy act before you produce anything substantial or positive, bullshit does not brush away the fact that you have to acknowledge our concerns and fear and address then if you want to find a solution if not then leave this forum now as you have nothing to discuss.

[miltiades]

VP persists in presenting the "TRNC" as the legitimate state in Cyprus while he still considers the ROC as a non entity , macabre to say the least since the "TRNC" is recognised by NONE as he very well knows.

I have told you this before the whole world can recognize you but is that important when you have to agree a solution? can you agree a solution with those nations? No you cannot we the TCs and Turkey matter here and neither of us recognize the "RoC" get that in your head as its us you sit down to find a solution not the rest of the world.

That's rather belligerent and utterly absurd. You are presenting an entity created by force as legitimate and yet the ONLY one recognised by every single nation on earth you declare illegal !!!!!
You say it is with Turkey that we have to negotiate , ( I say we because I include those T/Cs who also feel that Turkey is occupying their nation too ) every one agrees here but its like saying that the hijackers of an aircraft appoint their own captain and recognise him as the ONLY legal entity on that hijacked aircraft which to the entire world it is an illegally hijacked plane but since the legal authorities have to negotiate with the hijackers it makes the hijackers legal !!!
Like it or not , Turkey is the occupier and the ONLY nation recognising their creation.
60 plus thousand of T/Cs are in possession of Cypriot passports , I can assure you the ROC passport contains NO inverted commas , Turkeys position is farcical and just as ludicrous as their recent deliberations as to whether a university female students should or should not wear a scarf , face facts VP.

If you answer the following question honestly you will soon understand the reality of the situation, who do you have to agree a solution with? Youll find the answer is not the rest of the world who recognize the GC state.
Ask those 60 thousand passport holders who pays their wages every month and why they took up the offer of a free passport to ease their travelling and educational needs, the benefits for GCs far outweighs the offer as they can now cliam what you have that these TCs are on your side but quite the opposite they have used you to get what they want but are all clearly living in the TRNC.

Head scarfs are not my problem, Turkey is big and strong enough to sort out her own problems.

I firmly believe that the people we have to negotiate with are our Cypriot compatriots the T/Cs. Alas they are not free to do so , mother Turkey is dictating and they have to obey her having no other option. The EU , of which we are a part of, will not accept the annexation of a part of Europe by Turkey , it will resist and Turkey will listen.

[Viewpoint]

VP persists in presenting the "TRNC" as the legitimate state in Cyprus while he still considers the ROC as a non entity , macabre to say the least since the "TRNC" is recognised by NONE as he very well knows.

I have told you this before the whole world can recognize you but is that important when you have to agree a solution? can you agree a solution with those nations? No you cannot we the TCs and Turkey matter here and neither of us recognize the "RoC" get that in your head as its us you sit down to find a solution not the rest of the world.

That's rather belligerent and utterly absurd. You are presenting an entity created by force as legitimate and yet the ONLY one recognised by every single nation on earth you declare illegal !!!!!
You say it is with Turkey that we have to negotiate , ( I say we because I include those T/Cs who also feel that Turkey is occupying their nation too ) every one agrees here but its like saying that the hijackers of an aircraft appoint their own captain and recognise him as the ONLY legal entity on that hijacked aircraft which to the entire world it is an illegally hijacked plane but since the legal authorities have to negotiate with the hijackers it makes the hijackers legal !!!
Like it or not , Turkey is the occupier and the ONLY nation recognising their creation.
60 plus thousand of T/Cs are in possession of Cypriot passports , I can assure you the ROC passport contains NO inverted commas , Turkeys position is farcical and just as ludicrous as their recent deliberations as to whether a university female students should or should not wear a scarf , face facts VP.

If you answer the following question honestly you will soon understand the reality of the situation, who do you have to agree a solution with? Youll find the answer is not the rest of the world who recognize the GC state.
Ask those 60 thousand passport holders who pays their wages every month and why they took up the offer of a free passport to ease their travelling and educational needs, the benefits for GCs far outweighs the offer as they can now cliam what you have that these TCs are on your side but quite the opposite they have used you to get what they want but are all clearly living in the TRNC.

Head scarfs are not my problem, Turkey is big and strong enough to sort out her own problems.

I firmly believe that the people we have to negotiate with are our Cypriot compatriots the T/Cs. Alas they are not free to do so , mother Turkey is dictating and they have to obey her having no other option. The EU , of which we are a part of, will not accept the annexation of a part of Europe by Turkey , it will resist and Turkey will listen.

If they send Turkey packing next year which is very likely she will not have to listen to the EU at all and with no solution the TRNC without any hope of recognition will unite with Turkey.

Now you have been honest enough to answer correctly that GCs have to negotiate with TCs who do not recognize the "RoC" just like you do not recognize the TRNC, does it really change anything that other countries only recognize the GC south?

[DT.]

VP persists in presenting the "TRNC" as the legitimate state in Cyprus while he still considers the ROC as a non entity , macabre to say the least since the "TRNC" is recognised by NONE as he very well knows.

I have told you this before the whole world can recognize you but is that important when you have to agree a solution? can you agree a solution with those nations? No you cannot we the TCs and Turkey matter here and neither of us recognize the "RoC" get that in your head as its us you sit down to find a solution not the rest of the world.

That's rather belligerent and utterly absurd. You are presenting an entity created by force as legitimate and yet the ONLY one recognised by every single nation on earth you declare illegal !!!!!
You say it is with Turkey that we have to negotiate , ( I say we because I include those T/Cs who also feel that Turkey is occupying their nation too ) every one agrees here but its like saying that the hijackers of an aircraft appoint their own captain and recognise him as the ONLY legal entity on that hijacked aircraft which to the entire world it is an illegally hijacked plane but since the legal authorities have to negotiate with the hijackers it makes the hijackers legal !!!
Like it or not , Turkey is the occupier and the ONLY nation recognising their creation.
60 plus thousand of T/Cs are in possession of Cypriot passports , I can assure you the ROC passport contains NO inverted commas , Turkeys position is farcical and just as ludicrous as their recent deliberations as to whether a university female students should or should not wear a scarf , face facts VP.

If you answer the following question honestly you will soon understand the reality of the situation, who do you have to agree a solution with? Youll find the answer is not the rest of the world who recognize the GC state.
Ask those 60 thousand passport holders who pays their wages every month and why they took up the offer of a free passport to ease their travelling and educational needs, the benefits for GCs far outweighs the offer as they can now cliam what you have that these TCs are on your side but quite the opposite they have used you to get what they want but are all clearly living in the TRNC.

Head scarfs are not my problem, Turkey is big and strong enough to sort out her own problems.

I firmly believe that the people we have to negotiate with are our Cypriot compatriots the T/Cs. Alas they are not free to do so , mother Turkey is dictating and they have to obey her having no other option. The EU , of which we are a part of, will not accept the annexation of a part of Europe by Turkey , it will resist and Turkey will listen.

If they send Turkey packing next year which is very likely she will not have to listen to the EU at all and with no solution the TRNC without any hope of recognition will unite with Turkey.

Now you have been honest enough to answer correctly that GCs have to negotiate with TCs who do not recognize the "RoC" just like you do not recognize the TRNC, does it really change anything that other countries only recognize the GC south?

In or out of the EU Turkey can and never will be able to afford to ignore what the EU says. The investment that has entered Turkey channelled by EU banking will dry up and Turkey will be left with the economic might of the Faroe Islands.

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Wishful thinking DT Turkeys economy is more robust than is was in the past and departure from the EU would mean new pastures and new areas of economic development, where would that leave you guys with regards to a solution? up the swanny with no paddle me thinks.

[roseandchan]

everyone is making a big thing about head scarfs. i think everyone has the right to wear whatever they please. just think about the pope in a dress, indian women in sari's,indian men with turbans, sumo wrestlers in nappies. so why should turkish women in head scarfs be such a problem?