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It all comes down to the member states

Postby Harry » Wed May 04, 2005 6:40 am

Up until now both sides keep givings digs at one another and thats the reason for all this stubborness. Its like a negative snowball that keeps getting bigger and bigger. The TC's want their rights and keep GC's land, and GC's just want their land back. All this propaganda that I'm reading everyday, I don't see an end till negotiations begin. Member states being the jury, cast their votes on what the negotiators present to them. Not the crooks who tried to make it seem like it was balanced (Annan,Vergeuhasin,Erieli) and told the world it was balanced(bunch of paidoff bullshiters) I dont think you can buy the 24 member states all off, or even 13 which make it majority. So till the next round I think the TC's themselves still have the thoughts of what Dechtash brainwashed them with and still believe till this day they have a case for themselves and outside crooks who yes them to death cause they really dont care or still have their noses up Turkeys ass waiting for money to be shitted out.
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Wait a minute...

Postby LANDJO » Wed May 04, 2005 12:31 pm

You complain about both sides giving digs at each other. But what is this post if not one big dig at the TCs???

I'd be very interested in your rebuttal.
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Postby gabaston » Wed May 04, 2005 5:20 pm

harry it is not about propaganda, its about the collapse of the constitution, and finding one that works.
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Postby NikosSampson » Wed May 04, 2005 5:22 pm

WE DONT WANT ENGLISH MADE CONSTITUTION!

WE WANT ENOSIS AND REUNIFICATION OF BYZANTINE HELLENIC EMPIRE!!!!!

WE WANT ANOTHER CRUSADE TO TAKE BACK THE HOLY CITY OF CONSTANTINOPOLI!
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Postby Harry » Wed May 04, 2005 5:28 pm

I'm not complaining about it, I'm just saying it on how it is. Just like TC's have no choice at this point to defend what their country stole for them, and how they don't want to give it back for nothing. And the GC's have to do is just keep their mouth shut till they ask for a date, for lets say the trial for the negotiations to begin. Not pour the papers with TC's ammunition to go on. A settlememt isn't going to be settled over having coffee, it has to get to a point of a trial, and they know that. So anything else is just feeding the fire. GC's should ask the EU countries to be a part of helping this cause by witnessing and determining if what their asking for is out of the ordinary with their own countries perceptions. It's easy for an entity to say anything they want knowing theres no repercussions. The member states being the jury and listening to all the facts presented to them, would be hard for them to give false votes because it would be like their own country is under oath as well. Everything else are street decisions.
TC's feel 31 years of ownership its legally theirs, because the rest of the world allowed this when no one said shit when they declared themselves a state back in 1983. Not true because no one had an interest then but they do now finally. Why? Maybe because politics is a fun game for some. Or maybe it's because now they can invest cheap in Cyprus.
It's no joke for Cypriots. Look at the Jews who are pushed in a corner to defend TC's because they're in that same position as TC's. Only difference was they didn't steal it, it was given to them against the majorities will. They're willing to invest in the North cause they see the dollar signs like everyone else. It's pathetic. It's a hypocritical world we live in.
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Postby gabaston » Wed May 04, 2005 5:51 pm

harry i dont think the eu will solve anything.

in fact i honestly dont think we will resolve this, untill one of us is so weak that surrenders to the other's wishes. we are in stalemate position.

since the constitution we have gone from intercommunal violence - full scale invasion, and now we in the era of war, a different war- The War of Economies, and Politics.
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Postby magikthrill » Wed May 04, 2005 11:03 pm

gabaston wrote:harry it is not about propaganda, its about the collapse of the constitution, and finding one that works.


If you actually believe in what you just wrote then I'm assumign you understand why GCs did not vote in favor of the Annan plan.
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Postby Harry » Wed May 04, 2005 11:12 pm

dDid I imply otherwise?
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Postby uzan » Thu May 05, 2005 12:04 am

NikosSampson wrote:WE DONT WANT ENGLISH MADE CONSTITUTION!

WE WANT ENOSIS AND REUNIFICATION OF BYZANTINE HELLENIC EMPIRE!!!!!

WE WANT ANOTHER CRUSADE TO TAKE BACK THE HOLY CITY OF CONSTANTINOPOLI!


KEEP DREAMMING :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby gabaston » Thu May 05, 2005 12:27 am

yes magic

i most certainly do. that constitution was a miss match bodge-up which lead us to where we are today.
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