According to the Cyprus Mail AKEL need more time to persuade Greek Cypriots to support Annan Plan. Apparently they are worried to support a plan that is opposed by a majority of the population.
I am not expert on Greek Cypriot politics but I thought politics involved politicaly active people offering leadership and guidance to the people. Did Lenin say in 1917 'I sense the people are ready for a revolution and I am going to form a Communist Party to be the vehicle of the people's aspirations'? Was the Annan Plan a shock and a surpise when people wake up one day in late March. Are we not talking about a process which has been going on for years? And only now do AKEL think to talk to people about the Annan Plan? This is cowardice not leadership. Politics is not just a beauty contest, anyway they don't look that beautiful to me anyway.
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by mehmet » Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:29 pm
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by Piratis » Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:38 pm
We have democracy. The Americans and some others would rather have in Cyprus some undemocratic regime like the one in Turkey or what they are trying to create in Iraq where our leaders would follow their directions. This is not the case here today and we will not allow it to happen in the future either. Leaders are servants of the people, and not its masters.
We know the position of everybody for a long time already. In politics there are always different kind of views and all views are expressed freely. Only one view will win the majority. The others, can do nothing but accept the decision. This is what democracy means either you like it or not. People have listened to everybody and have decided, and their decision will be shown on the 24th.
Instead of trying to convince yourselves that we will vote “no” because we are misinformed it would be more productive if you try to understand why this plan is not the one that Greek Cypriots can accept.
We know the position of everybody for a long time already. In politics there are always different kind of views and all views are expressed freely. Only one view will win the majority. The others, can do nothing but accept the decision. This is what democracy means either you like it or not. People have listened to everybody and have decided, and their decision will be shown on the 24th.
Instead of trying to convince yourselves that we will vote “no” because we are misinformed it would be more productive if you try to understand why this plan is not the one that Greek Cypriots can accept.
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by metecyp » Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:38 pm
Instead of trying to convince yourselves that we will vote “no” because we are misinformed it would be more productive if you try to understand why this plan is not the one that Greek Cypriots can accept.
I agree with this. Most people use misinformation as an excuse, but there're deeper issues here. Misinformation cannot be denied, but we have to think harder why GCs are so against this plan as well.
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by michalis5354 » Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:49 pm
The Fact that Real Leaders are completely absent in politics and especially when people really need direction what anyone should have expected!
What the public thinks is not always correct , otherwise no country should have had leaders or even parties.
Real Leaders are required to give direction , to empower people , to take hard decisions when it is needed , to accept responsibilities , to guide people. People are not always correct and they are not involved with politics . They are working for their private life . How should they be aware what is happening in International Politics . It is the Politicians responsibility this and not the Ordinary citisen. Citisens most of the time think emotionally and not reasonably.
What the public thinks is not always correct , otherwise no country should have had leaders or even parties.
Real Leaders are required to give direction , to empower people , to take hard decisions when it is needed , to accept responsibilities , to guide people. People are not always correct and they are not involved with politics . They are working for their private life . How should they be aware what is happening in International Politics . It is the Politicians responsibility this and not the Ordinary citisen. Citisens most of the time think emotionally and not reasonably.
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by mehmet » Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:06 pm
Where did I say that Greek Cypriots were misinformed?
If two parties agree on a process, which was clearly set out with dates and arrangements for the involvement of others if need be, I repeat if two parties agree to this, surely the least you can expect is that come the time you say what you think to the people. What Christofias is saying is we need more time to consider the plan and persuade people. Why wasn't AKEL trying to persuade people before? Not everything is new in Annan 5. Why only now with refereundum so close they sa they need more time? Either AKEL is for or against, why not say so now so we know where they stand, this is not a time to be sitting on the fence.
If two parties agree on a process, which was clearly set out with dates and arrangements for the involvement of others if need be, I repeat if two parties agree to this, surely the least you can expect is that come the time you say what you think to the people. What Christofias is saying is we need more time to consider the plan and persuade people. Why wasn't AKEL trying to persuade people before? Not everything is new in Annan 5. Why only now with refereundum so close they sa they need more time? Either AKEL is for or against, why not say so now so we know where they stand, this is not a time to be sitting on the fence.
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by Piratis » Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:22 pm
Ok, to answer your question directly:
1) Some of AKEL leaders could accept the plan (but not all). They made polls among their members and found out that 75% of them would vote "no" irrespective of AKEL's direction. Only about 7% said they would vote "yes". Therefore, AKEL came to the conclusion that if they supported the Annan plan (along with Disy) the result in the referendum would just be a weaker "no". So between a weaker "no" and a stronger "no" they choose the stronger "no".
2)Their members (in a secret vote) would not approve a "yes" vote.
1) Some of AKEL leaders could accept the plan (but not all). They made polls among their members and found out that 75% of them would vote "no" irrespective of AKEL's direction. Only about 7% said they would vote "yes". Therefore, AKEL came to the conclusion that if they supported the Annan plan (along with Disy) the result in the referendum would just be a weaker "no". So between a weaker "no" and a stronger "no" they choose the stronger "no".
2)Their members (in a secret vote) would not approve a "yes" vote.
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