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Pride/embarrassment for one's country?

Postby perdike » Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:41 pm

There are currently two topics asking about the things one is proud of or the things which embarrass us about our countries. I have a problem with this. I am willing to be proud of something to which I have contributed, or given consent. Ditto embarrassed.

I can wish certain things were not the way they are, and endeavour to alter them in any way I can make a contribution, but why should I take responsibilty for things to which I have made no input/contribution?

This is particularly pertinent in countries where an indigenous or earlier population has benn unfairly treated. I am not prepared to apologise for events which happened before I was born and over which I had no say.

What I am committed to doing is to ensure I treat everyone I encounter in as fair a way as possible and to vote in such a way as to ensure that
any present injustices are eradicated/prevented from being enacted.
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Postby Raymanoff » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:00 pm

I am proud of my Country as it brought the best musician on the face of earth: Bob Marley... but i am also embarrassed by corruption and poverty.
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Postby perdike » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:09 pm

Raymanoff wrote:I am proud of my Country as it brought the best musician on the face of earth: Bob Marley... but i am also embarrassed by corruption and poverty.

Shouldn't this be under the other threads, Raymanoff? What exactly did you contribute to Bob Marley's music??

Anyway, I thought you are Russian!! A RUSSIAN RASTA??? Now would be something.
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Postby perdike » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:10 pm

Whoops, that second bit is from me, its not a quote. Sorry . . .
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Postby Feisty » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:27 pm

Raymanoff wrote:I am proud of my Country as it brought the best musician on the face of earth: Bob Marley.


You should be embarrassed of that opinion wherever you are ;)
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Postby perdike » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:31 pm

Feisty wrote:
Raymanoff wrote:I am proud of my Country as it brought the best musician on the face of earth: Bob Marley.


You should be embarrassed of that opinion wherever you are ;)


I don't follow your logic Feisty. I dont agree with Raymanoff, but why "embarrassed"?
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Postby Feisty » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:35 pm

Just being light-hearted Perdike.
There's so much seriousness (made up word) around I thought I'd wind Ray up.
I do however think Bob Marley is/was crap.
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Postby perdike » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:47 pm

Hi Feisty,

Well taste in muic is such a personal thing isn't it? I enjoyed a lot ot Bob Marley's music, but he was never a god to me.

As for Raymanoff, I thought he is Russian, so whats he on about? Maybe he took Bob's words too seriously and his state of mind is a bit 'weedy' ?

All of which is quite off thread.
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Postby Raymanoff » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:07 pm

sence of hunor: ON... ?

:D

not a fan of Bob Marley... just ***ing with ya :)
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Postby RichardB » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:46 pm

Raymanoff wrote:sence of hunor: ON... ?

:D

not a fan of Bob Marley... just ***ing with ya :)


He' been like this ever since he watched 'Robbie' on Saturday :lol:

Multitasking my arse :lol: :lol:
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