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EU to relax restrictions on Turkish Cyprus

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby RichardB » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:07 pm

miltiades wrote:
humanist wrote:as a Greek speaking Cypriot, rightly or wrongly I believe that may be a new name needs to be given in case of unification, one that is free of Turkey and Greece in any way shape or form. How about the Peoples Republic of Cyprus

THE PRC already taken by a tiny nation , China !!


Whats wrong with Republic of Cyprus
As it stands the countries name has no reference to Turkey or Greece

But I Guess even if you changed the name to Klefticoland you'd still have people calling themselves TKs and GKs or whatever :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:33 pm

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No VP, you have got me all wrong again, and yourself also, if I may say so.!!


No you may not, you have no right to tell me I am wrong and you are right, playing judge, jury yet again.

I want nothing but the best for the TC's, but in the country of Cyprus and not on stolen land that the "trnc" is based on ethnic cleansing, killings and rapes, specially when the owners of the homes and land that you want to make it into your "new country" will never in a million years will let you have a comfortable sleep at nights, because they will wait for the right moment and take it back the same way it was taken away from them, because they are only "stone throw away" from you, so this is what I do not want to see happen, but you seem to be happy to take your chances, just because you think you have the upper hand now over the GC's.


What about our sufferings? what about our losses? try arguing our corner for a change prove you are unbiased. If we cannot find a solution they can wait as much as they wish nothing will change. I will take my chances as the alternative is not desirable and I will fight for survival if attacked but I will never be the attacker. Thank you for your concern about my sleep but its never been better especially after 1974 I have 40.000 soldiers protecting me.

In my way of thinking, the GC's have not shown any sign of aggression for the past 30+ years towards the TC's, is not just because of the Turkish Army, but because in the hopes of reuniting the island at some point. If that option is once and for all taken away from them by force, then you would have created the same situation as it exists in Israel today and for the last 60 years. So stop being too cocky thinking you have gotten away with the bounty, because you have not. Don't forget, "Time Does Not Stand Still". Believe it or not, I'm looking after your best interest at heart and all Cypriots accordingly.


The isolations are aggression to try and force me to accept GC demands, if in 45 years they have realized this more fool them. Its exacly the reason why they cannot try any physical aggression becuase they are shit scared of the Turkish army thats the only language they understand to stop them from treating us as second class citizens.

I have gotten away with my own safe haven from a community that has a very bad track record by were isolating, persecuting and killing my community, you best interests are the same as the GCs not the TCs you have declared whoes side you are on and its not the TCs.

Now, lets get back to your "Disneyland Dreams" that you have gotten it so wrong...........again..


Who are you to tell me I have it wrong? dont over rate your self importance.

The EU has just increased the amount of how much trade in value goes across the "Green Line" to ease the isolation of the Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots.!!!


Turkish Cypriots are the TRNC, I know you hate this reality but it doesnt change anything.

Take note VP, I did the above (Turkish Cypriots) deliberately and it was not a computer error. Did you read anywhere that the EU or anyone else for that matter, has ever said to help with the isolation of the "TRNC".??? NO they have not, because the "TRNC" does not exist as a country for them, but only the ROC, therefore no isolation can be lifted to help the "TRNC". They are ONLY helping to ease the isolation on the Turkish Cypriots, because they see the TC's as Cypriots and nothing more, who have been self isolated to the northern part of Cyprus because of the Turkish Occupation. If the above was not true, they would just grant the "TRNC" a full recognition and then there will not be any need for lifting any isolation. Common sense, wouldn't you agree.??


Where do the TCs live? where will they be when this isolation is removed? where will they enjoy the benefits? the TRNC.

Recognition will only come in light of GC intrangience, rejection of the AP by the GCs was the biggest pro recognition move you could have taken, feel free to reject the next plan, go ahead, feel free why not gamble recognition? reject every plan that comes you way..the worlds patience is waering thin with you guys and just when you least expect it recognition will come.


So VP, I'm very sorry that you feel very gutted with the above truth and holding your hopes on things that will not come true, except of course in the "Magic Kingdom" which I had displayed for you, but you must understand, that those dreams that come true are for the little boys and girls are only in their fantasies, and it is not meant for grown up individuals like yourself. Perhaps this is a good time to tell you VP, but Disneyland is nothing but a Fantasy, same as your wish with the "Green Line borders gone today and the World's tomorrow" is only a Fantasy and not a Reality. I know you feel gutted hearing this from me, and I feel gutted telling you the truth, but little boy or girl you are not anymore, so I hope you will be able to handle it...........................I'm so sorry to be the one to tell it to you straight.


No problem, no damage done we know what we are and I know this makes you sick, what we have now with all its faults is far better and preferred to capitulating to GCs and becoming a minority in a GC state run by GCs.


VP,

I don't want to respond to all your other answers, except the one below, because you are not willing to face reality and are willing to say anything to try and smear my arguments as being biased, but the truth is in the open for all to see, which you cannot hide no matter how you try to do so, therefore I'll let you continue to have a good time in your "Fantasyland".!!

Where do the TCs live? where will they be when this isolation is removed? where will they enjoy the benefits? the TRNC.


As far as the UN, the EU, the RoC and pretty much the rest of the world is concerned and rightfully all agree, that the TC's are living in northern part of Republic of Cyprus that is occupied by the Turkish Army, where the authority of the RoC is denied in these areas due to the occupation, but at no time, is the northern part of Cyprus is removed from the RoC to be deemed to be another sovereign land (country) no matter what name you want to give to it. The "trnc" has been declared an illegal entity, therefore it can only be in existence due to the Turkish Occupation, and the fact that you need the 40,000 Turkish Troops there to help you hold on to it, proves my point without any doubt.

I hope I was some help to you to help you realise finally where it is that you are living.!!

Of course, that is when you are not living the rest of your time in Fantasyland, that is.!!


The above response is just another weak argument, reality hit you in the face everytime, name it TRNC or fantasyland its an area where we live work and play and that makes you sick. Is it perfect far from it but nowhere in the world is, as long as there is no solution the EU has taken it upon itself to remove the isolation which you claim does not exist, the benefits will be enjoyed by the TCs in the TRNC again I know this makes you physically sick to think the the level playing field is being created. The world will no longer tollerate the intrangience, delays or rejection of plans by GCs put forward by the UN, feel free to try their patience but the consequencies this time will be much more negative than ever before.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:53 pm

miltiades wrote:
humanist wrote:as a Greek speaking Cypriot, rightly or wrongly I believe that may be a new name needs to be given in case of unification, one that is free of Turkey and Greece in any way shape or form. How about the Peoples Republic of Cyprus

THE PRC already taken by a tiny nation , China !!



PRA = Peoples Republic of Alasia.

Lets bury Cyprus.
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