soyer wrote: TRNC will be for ever.
When you wish upon a star...
soyer wrote:miltiades wrote:Division of Cyprus ain't your business foreigner !!
You have every right to call me foreiner, because you are South Cyprus citizen. Sure i am a foreigner to you and you are to me.
We have been foreigner to each other for 34 years now. I don't know how you feel about you citizenship, but i am proud with my TRNC citizenship.
May i ask why you bring this common knowledge up always.
Kikapu wrote:soyer wrote:Turkish Cypriots=TRNC
TRNC=Turkish Cypriots
Turkish Cypriots=TRNC
TRNC=Turkish Cypriots
Turkish Cypriots=TRNC
TRNC=Turkish Cypriots
Turkish Cypriots=TRNC
TRNC=Turkish Cypriots
Turkish Cypriots=TRNC
TRNC=Turkish Cypriots
WE ARE MAJORITY IN OUR COUNTRY IN TRNC. WE NEVER GONE BE MINORITY IN WHOLE CYPRUS.
YOU HAD THAT CHANCE ONCE AND YOU BLOW IT BY ENOSIS DEMAND.
G/Cs can have compensation for they property in TRNC and T/Cs will have compensation for they property in South.
If you go down and do away with RoC in order accept Greek Fedaral State of South Cyprus and likewise we accept to go down from TRNC to Turkish Fedaral State of North Cyprus.
TRNC will be for ever.
YAWN, YAWN, YAWN, YAWN, YAWN, YAWN, YAWN, YAWN!!
First of all, learn who is who on this forum as far as their ethnicity goes, or else you just look like a BIG JACKASS.!!
Secondly, there is no such thing as a country called "TRNC". If the "TRNC" was a country, why would you want to throw away your sovereign country to become just a lousy "Turkish Federal State of North Cyprus".
Thirdly, the TC's were minorities in whole of Cyprus before, as they are now, even in their own " country TRNC" with the Turkish Settlers.
I wonder why this foreigner had the need to repeat so many times the same thing , then he admits that he is a foreigner since every one knows that the T/Cs are the minority and the mainland foreigners , like him , the majority.
I wonder if he will now inform us that the T/Cs are NOT CYPRIOTS but foreigners like him !!!
You are a foreigner mate , your avatar says so , Cyprus North South East and West ain't Turkey it is CYPRUS. No part of Cyprus can be a part of a foreign country . Capitchi !!!
ps.have you applied for your ROC passport , doubt it very much you would not qualify unlike the 60 or so thousand of T/Cs . !!
I know, it's must be a curse from the gods.!!
soyer wrote:miltiades wrote:Division of Cyprus ain't your business foreigner !!
You have every right to call me foreiner, because you are South Cyprus citizen. Sure i am a foreigner to you and you are to me.
We have been foreigner to each other for 34 years now. I don't know how you feel about you citizenship, but i am proud with my TRNC citizenship.
May i ask why you bring this common knowledge up always.
soyer wrote:This is what i write before. believe you need to visit your optician.
If you go down and do away with RoC in order accept Greek Fedaral State of South Cyprus and likewise we accept to go down from TRNC to Turkish Fedaral State of North Cyprus.
My very first was British Cyprus passport which it was a family passport i am sure you never had one at that time.
TRNC will be for ever.
No VP, you have got me all wrong again, and yourself also, if I may say so.!!
I want nothing but the best for the TC's, but in the country of Cyprus and not on stolen land that the "trnc" is based on ethnic cleansing, killings and rapes, specially when the owners of the homes and land that you want to make it into your "new country" will never in a million years will let you have a comfortable sleep at nights, because they will wait for the right moment and take it back the same way it was taken away from them, because they are only "stone throw away" from you, so this is what I do not want to see happen, but you seem to be happy to take your chances, just because you think you have the upper hand now over the GC's.
In my way of thinking, the GC's have not shown any sign of aggression for the past 30+ years towards the TC's, is not just because of the Turkish Army, but because in the hopes of reuniting the island at some point. If that option is once and for all taken away from them by force, then you would have created the same situation as it exists in Israel today and for the last 60 years. So stop being too cocky thinking you have gotten away with the bounty, because you have not. Don't forget, "Time Does Not Stand Still". Believe it or not, I'm looking after your best interest at heart and all Cypriots accordingly.
Now, lets get back to your "Disneyland Dreams" that you have gotten it so wrong...........again..
The EU has just increased the amount of how much trade in value goes across the "Green Line" to ease the isolation of the Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots.!!!
Take note VP, I did the above (Turkish Cypriots) deliberately and it was not a computer error. Did you read anywhere that the EU or anyone else for that matter, has ever said to help with the isolation of the "TRNC".??? NO they have not, because the "TRNC" does not exist as a country for them, but only the ROC, therefore no isolation can be lifted to help the "TRNC". They are ONLY helping to ease the isolation on the Turkish Cypriots, because they see the TC's as Cypriots and nothing more, who have been self isolated to the northern part of Cyprus because of the Turkish Occupation. If the above was not true, they would just grant the "TRNC" a full recognition and then there will not be any need for lifting any isolation. Common sense, wouldn't you agree.??
So VP, I'm very sorry that you feel very gutted with the above truth and holding your hopes on things that will not come true, except of course in the "Magic Kingdom" which I had displayed for you, but you must understand, that those dreams that come true are for the little boys and girls are only in their fantasies, and it is not meant for grown up individuals like yourself. Perhaps this is a good time to tell you VP, but Disneyland is nothing but a Fantasy, same as your wish with the "Green Line borders gone today and the World's tomorrow" is only a Fantasy and not a Reality. I know you feel gutted hearing this from me, and I feel gutted telling you the truth, but little boy or girl you are not anymore, so I hope you will be able to handle it...........................I'm so sorry to be the one to tell it to you straight.
Viewpoint wrote:KikapuNo VP, you have got me all wrong again, and yourself also, if I may say so.!!
No you may not, you have no right to tell me I am wrong and you are right, playing judge, jury yet again.I want nothing but the best for the TC's, but in the country of Cyprus and not on stolen land that the "trnc" is based on ethnic cleansing, killings and rapes, specially when the owners of the homes and land that you want to make it into your "new country" will never in a million years will let you have a comfortable sleep at nights, because they will wait for the right moment and take it back the same way it was taken away from them, because they are only "stone throw away" from you, so this is what I do not want to see happen, but you seem to be happy to take your chances, just because you think you have the upper hand now over the GC's.
What about our sufferings? what about our losses? try arguing our corner for a change prove you are unbiased. If we cannot find a solution they can wait as much as they wish nothing will change. I will take my chances as the alternative is not desirable and I will fight for survival if attacked but I will never be the attacker. Thank you for your concern about my sleep but its never been better especially after 1974 I have 40.000 soldiers protecting me.In my way of thinking, the GC's have not shown any sign of aggression for the past 30+ years towards the TC's, is not just because of the Turkish Army, but because in the hopes of reuniting the island at some point. If that option is once and for all taken away from them by force, then you would have created the same situation as it exists in Israel today and for the last 60 years. So stop being too cocky thinking you have gotten away with the bounty, because you have not. Don't forget, "Time Does Not Stand Still". Believe it or not, I'm looking after your best interest at heart and all Cypriots accordingly.
The isolations are aggression to try and force me to accept GC demands, if in 45 years they have realized this more fool them. Its exacly the reason why they cannot try any physical aggression becuase they are shit scared of the Turkish army thats the only language they understand to stop them from treating us as second class citizens.
I have gotten away with my own safe haven from a community that has a very bad track record by were isolating, persecuting and killing my community, you best interests are the same as the GCs not the TCs you have declared whoes side you are on and its not the TCs.Now, lets get back to your "Disneyland Dreams" that you have gotten it so wrong...........again..
Who are you to tell me I have it wrong? dont over rate your self importance.The EU has just increased the amount of how much trade in value goes across the "Green Line" to ease the isolation of the Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots.!!!
Turkish Cypriots are the TRNC, I know you hate this reality but it doesnt change anything.Take note VP, I did the above (Turkish Cypriots) deliberately and it was not a computer error. Did you read anywhere that the EU or anyone else for that matter, has ever said to help with the isolation of the "TRNC".??? NO they have not, because the "TRNC" does not exist as a country for them, but only the ROC, therefore no isolation can be lifted to help the "TRNC". They are ONLY helping to ease the isolation on the Turkish Cypriots, because they see the TC's as Cypriots and nothing more, who have been self isolated to the northern part of Cyprus because of the Turkish Occupation. If the above was not true, they would just grant the "TRNC" a full recognition and then there will not be any need for lifting any isolation. Common sense, wouldn't you agree.??
Where do the TCs live? where will they be when this isolation is removed? where will they enjoy the benefits? the TRNC.
Recognition will only come in light of GC intrangience, rejection of the AP by the GCs was the biggest pro recognition move you could have taken, feel free to reject the next plan, go ahead, feel free why not gamble recognition? reject every plan that comes you way..the worlds patience is waering thin with you guys and just when you least expect it recognition will come.So VP, I'm very sorry that you feel very gutted with the above truth and holding your hopes on things that will not come true, except of course in the "Magic Kingdom" which I had displayed for you, but you must understand, that those dreams that come true are for the little boys and girls are only in their fantasies, and it is not meant for grown up individuals like yourself. Perhaps this is a good time to tell you VP, but Disneyland is nothing but a Fantasy, same as your wish with the "Green Line borders gone today and the World's tomorrow" is only a Fantasy and not a Reality. I know you feel gutted hearing this from me, and I feel gutted telling you the truth, but little boy or girl you are not anymore, so I hope you will be able to handle it...........................I'm so sorry to be the one to tell it to you straight.
No problem, no damage done we know what we are and I know this makes you sick, what we have now with all its faults is far better and preferred to capitulating to GCs and becoming a minority in a GC state run by GCs.
Where do the TCs live? where will they be when this isolation is removed? where will they enjoy the benefits? the TRNC.
humanist wrote:as a Greek speaking Cypriot, rightly or wrongly I believe that may be a new name needs to be given in case of unification, one that is free of Turkey and Greece in any way shape or form. How about the Peoples Republic of Cyprus
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