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[insan]

I am not saying that TCs should get what Kurds get in Turkey. What I am saying is that TCs should realize that they have the 18% share of Cyprus, and not the 50%.

And I say TCs should have %18 share of Cyprus but %50 voting power in Senate and Judicial system to protect their %18 share in all areas; economic, cultural, educational, religious, foreign affairs, defense etc.

[Piratis]

Is there any ethnic groups on entire world that ruled a geographical area for 400 years than became a minority?

You doubt?

Just as it is one thing to talk of numerical minorities and another thing to talk of political minorities.

I am talking about ethnic minorities which is something very well defined. Where is your definition for what you call "political minority"?

Turkish Cypriots are an ethnic minority in Cyprus, this is crystal clear.

P.S The web has billions of websites and everybody can publish anything that he wants. So sorry but I do not waste my time with non authoritative websites.

[insan]

Does wealthiest GC minority own %70 of the Soth Cyprus? Why?

[Piratis]

And I say TCs should have %18 share of Cyprus but %50 voting power in Senate and Judicial system to protect their %18 share in all areas; economic, cultural, educational, religious, foreign affairs, defense etc.

If you have 50% power, how is your share 18%? Why the Kurds in Turkey, or the Blacks in USA do not have 50% voting power?

[Piratis]

Does wealthiest GC minority own %70 of the Soth Cyprus? Why?

If this is the case, is it fair? Do you think that some people voluntarily gave up their belonging to make some others richer because they thought that this kind of wealth distribution is fair?

[insan]

And I say TCs should have %18 share of Cyprus but %50 voting power in Senate and Judicial system to protect their %18 share in all areas; economic, cultural, educational, religious, foreign affairs, defense etc.

If you have 50% power, how is your share 18%? Why the Kurds in Turkey, or the Blacks in USA do not have 50% voting power?

It's their problem. Let them struggle for what they want. Overwhelming majority of 20 million Kurds are happy living in Turkey and having got equal rights like every Turkish citizens have.

TCs will use their effective political power to keep their share at 18% in all areas. %18 in tourism industry, %18 in agricaltural areas, %18 of ministries, %18 of land, %18 of annual investments, %18 of budget, %18 of tax etc etc.; as long as otherwise is needed.

Let's say a tsunami hit the South Coasts of Cyprus and caused billions of pounds damage. TCs will be more than happy to allocate %95 of budget rebuilding the affected areas and rehabilitation of the affected GCs.

[erolz]

I am talking about ethnic minorities which is something very well defined. Where is your definition for what you call "political minority"?

The defintion of 'political minority' and 'political equality' are equally well defined. As far as RoC has equality with other states in the EU (or UN) it is a political equal of these other states. As far as it has represntation proportional to its numbers it is a political minority. These are easy and clear concepts that most 7 years olds would be able to grasp.

Turkish Cypriots are an ethnic minority in Cyprus, this is crystal clear.

Yes this is crytal clear. What is not crystal clear is the extent to which we should be a political minority or not in Cyprus. If this was crytal clear there would be no Cyprus problem today or ever.

P.S The web has billions of websites and everybody can publish anything that he wants. So sorry but I do not waste my time with non authoritative websites.

Well if you did take the time to read either of these you would see that they support your position in many ways. However you assumption that they are non authorative and my motivation in posting them is to present or support my own view is a reflection of yourself, not me. My objective is to better understand and in that process I seek out and consider all views as part of the process of forming my own - authoritive or not. I suspect your approach is more based on finding ways to support your own pre concieved views rather than better understanding the issue and modifying them - hence your reluctance to read anything you do not know before hand will serve this purpose (the support of your pre concieved notions).
In any case the psoting of these links is no waste of your time, only mine. You do not have to read them if you do not want too. The assumption that it is only you and your time that is relvant inherent in your response smacks of arrogance. You may not wish to read them. Others may. So shall I stop posting such links because you have no interest in them?

[Piratis]

The defintion of 'political minority' and 'political equality' are equally well defined. As far as RoC has equality with other states in the EU (or UN) it is a political equal of these other states. As far as it has represntation proportional to its numbers it is a political minority. These are easy and clear concepts that most 7 years olds would be able to grasp.

I gave you a definition of what "ethnic minority" is, which beyond any doubt shows that TCs are an ethnic minority.

Now can you give me a definition of "political minority" that will make the Turks in Bulgaria and the Kurds in Turkey a political minority and the TCs in Cyprus not a political minority? (e.g. "Political minority: Political minorities exist only in countries over 10,000sq kilometers ...")

What I am saying is that you are a political minority also, just like the other examples I gave you.

If this was crytal clear there would be no Cyprus problem today or ever.

If Turkey didn't have her Tanks occuping Cyprus there wouldn't be a Cyprus problem today.

hence your reluctance to read anything you do not know before hand will serve this purpose

You are wrong. I simply do not waste my time with non-authorative sites, thats all. What they write is just another opinion, nothing more than that. Go to a university and make a research and then site as an important source an "angelfire" or "geocities" website and see what they will tell you.

[garbitsch]

If Turkey didn't have her Tanks occuping Cyprus there wouldn't be a Cyprus problem today.

Yes you are right in this point Piratis. If Turkey didnt have her Tanks occupying Cyprus, there won't be a Cyprus problem, because under the rule of Sampson the T.Cs would either be perished or forced to emigrate to other countries. The result would be unification of Cyprus with Greece and continual rule of Junta. Zhtw Enosis!

[Piratis]

garbitsch, thats your theory. It is like a murder saying that if he didn't kill a child this child would grow to be a second Hitler.

Your theory is way exaggerated. The coup and Junta ended in 1974. If the aim of the invasion was to simply stop those things then Cyprus would not be occupied 30 years after. This shows that the whole protection of the TCs theory was just the excuse for Turkey and not her real reason.