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Postby insan » Tue May 03, 2005 11:41 am

This minority can have special political rights as in the 1960 constitution This way the ultimate demands of TCs and GCs.


This is your expression. TCs neither want to be a minority nor a so-called privileaged minority. What TCs want is very clear: Political equality on all legislative and judicial matters.
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Postby garbitsch » Tue May 03, 2005 11:43 am

Piratis wrote:So obviously TCs accept 50%-50% only when it suits them.

Freedom of speach is no more important than voting rights for citizens. And they insist that they should have 4.5 times more voting power than GCs. Double standards as usual.


That's your assumption. We are not obliged to buy it dude :)
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Postby magikthrill » Tue May 03, 2005 11:47 am

insan wrote:
This minority can have special political rights as in the 1960 constitution This way the ultimate demands of TCs and GCs.


This is your expression. TCs neither want to be a minority nor a so-called privileaged minority. What TCs want is very clear: Political equality on all legislative and judicial matters.


Again you dillusional man. TCs are a minority. And unless they start breeding like rabbits thats how things are going to be for a while.

And yes they special rights for a minority are granted under the 1960 constitution.
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Postby brother » Tue May 03, 2005 11:50 am

TCs are a minority. And unless they start breeding like rabbits thats how things are going to be for a while.




:lol: right going to do my bit for country and get out there and breed like a rabbit, me already got baby mother number one and two time to start concentrating on number three. :wink: :lol: :lol:
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Postby magikthrill » Tue May 03, 2005 11:53 am

brother wrote:
:lol: right going to do my bit for country and get out there and breed like a rabbit, me already got baby mother number one and two time to start concentrating on number three. :wink: :lol: :lol:


lol
Maybe you can ask insan for some tips. Apparently in his fictional world the rabbit like breeding has begun :-D
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Postby brother » Tue May 03, 2005 11:56 am

lol
Maybe you can ask insan for some tips. Apparently in his fictional world the rabbit like breeding has begun


Ohhh no, what i have missed the boat already :cry:
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Postby gabaston » Tue May 03, 2005 12:01 pm

Guys

Leaving politics aside for one minute.

Happy Easter
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Postby gabaston » Tue May 03, 2005 12:04 pm

If breeding like rabbits is the sullution to peace and equallity............
hey let's start eating carrots
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Postby brother » Tue May 03, 2005 12:05 pm

HAPPY EASTER TO ALL ....................and don't let the kids eat too much chocolate it will make them sick :wink: :lol:
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Postby erolz » Tue May 03, 2005 12:18 pm

Piratis wrote:TCs want 50% only when it suits them.
When it is against their interests it is ridiculous to talk about 50%. When it is for their interests they don't see that is equally ridiculous to ask for 50%.


What is ridiculous is the idea that free speech can be 50% or 18% or any other fraction. You either have free speech or you do not. Political representation on the other hand is a matter of degrees. If you can not see and understand this then I can not help you.

Will you also be calling for strcit equality in births and deaths of TC vs GC - demanding that any TC who are born over this quota are killed and old people who do not die soon enough are likewise killed - and if we say this is ridiculous you will claim it's is proof of TC hypocrasy?

Your arguments are ridiculous and clearly so. What is of concern however is not your arguments (in this thread) but your seeming ability to believe and promote the ridiculous as 'logic' in your pursuit of your agenda. Such thinking can only spell disaster for Cyprus.

Piratis wrote:If EU and a country can be compared, then so is voting power VS posting in this forum. You are the one who chooses to compare apples and oranges, you want exclusive rights for it?


If the argument is about democratic principals then examples from ANY democratic system have a relevance. If the argument is that democratic principals are different within a nation sate than elsewhere then examples form nation states are relevant. If the argument is democratic principals are different within a nation state than elsewhere and different in a federal nation state when the component state has an ethnic element to is than when it does not, then you are no longer talking aboiut democratic principals, but specific application of democracy in specfic circumsatnces each to be assesed on its own mertis and comparisons with other places are of limited relevance.

Piratis wrote:And before you make your absolutely ridiculous claim that TCs are not an ethnic minority here is the definition again:


Round and round we go. TC are a numerical (ethnic based) minority in Cyprus as a whole. That is a fact. That this is a fact does not mean it is also a fact that TC can not have any political representation or rights within in their own homeland than that of a political minority. It is you opinion that it means they can not and should not have any greater political represntation and rights, just as it is mine that it does not mean this.

You are entitled to your opinion . Howeve when you start to insist that your opinion is not an opinion but a matter of fact and god given rightness and as imutable as the laws of nature you only weaken your position and your credibility - in my very humble opinion.
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