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Postby Piratis » Mon May 02, 2005 4:00 pm

Erolz, will you delete your post? TCs posted way over the allowed 50% here. You should wait until an equal number of GCs reply first.

then presumably you would be happy with a straight numerical vote of existing members on such rule changes, even if there were more TC members.


I agree. Will you accept the same for Cyprus?

By the way, the Admin of this forum is GC. I assume you must feel very dominated when posting here :lol:
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Postby insan » Mon May 02, 2005 4:06 pm

I see no reason to restrict the number of posts based on ethnicity/nationality. It's irrelevant!

We have never talked about restrictions on freedom of speech in a united Cyprus. :lol: But I think Piratis means that if freedom of movement can be restricted for stability and viability of bi-zonal, bi-communal federation; why don't we restrict the freedom of speech, according to ethnicity just for self-amusement of Piratis likes. :lol: :lol:
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Postby erolz » Mon May 02, 2005 4:21 pm

Piratis wrote:Erolz, will you delete your post? TCs posted way over the allowed 50% here. You should wait until an equal number of GCs reply first.


Sorry Piratis but in a democratic system you can not simply declare a law and then start insiting this new law should be enforced without it first being made into law. You alone deciding what is law or not is the GC Cyprus of the 63 - that we are told could never happen again. Is this the GC way? You decide the law. You do the counting of the post and you decide what needs to be removed. All we have to do or are permitted to do is obey you. Yep sounds about right for a Piratis version of democratic principals :)

Piratis wrote:I agree. Will you accept the same for Cyprus?


No. I do not think such a system is right here and I do not think such a system is right in Cyprus. Let a TC majority here actually limit GC freedoms and rights here for 11 years first and then tell me you do not want seperate consent from each community.

Piratis wrote:By the way, the Admin of this forum is GC. I assume you must feel very dominated when posting here :lol:


No I do not but if you or TP was the sole admin of this forum no doubt I soon would feel this way and withdraw from the forum - like I guess you hope we will withdraw from Cyprus?
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Postby erolz » Mon May 02, 2005 4:37 pm

Here is another one for you.

I have decided that Cyprus-Forum is going to joined and submerged into Turkish-Forum. We have more TC forum members here than not, and they al agree with me for the ENOSIS of Cyprus-forum to Turkish-forum. Of course you will agree with this majorites will. Look forward to your particpation in Turkish- Forum in the future ;)
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Postby gabaston » Mon May 02, 2005 4:38 pm

Sorry i cant answer or express any further opinions on the matter since i've already exceeded my quota.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Mon May 02, 2005 5:03 pm

Theres no doubt there is some sort of "equality" in this forum however some "elitists" like Piratis and Cannedmoose can have their own nice looking avatars, whereas ordinary folks like me and Insan gardash can only chose to have ugly avatars or naked women ones to look like "idiots".

Who created the "members" section of avatars that did not exist 10 days ago, why there are no instructions how to add our avatars in there, and why "ordinary" folks were not even informed? For example the avatar of Magicthrill is in there, however he himself was never informed!!
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Postby garbitsch » Mon May 02, 2005 5:48 pm

Shall I choose Magik's picture as my new avatar? :lol: :lol:
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Postby MicAtCyp » Mon May 02, 2005 8:30 pm

Obviously yes Kazantzakis but would "his body" be yours? :wink:
PS. So when in the past I called you "garbage" I actually found something about your nick right? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

By the way do any of or G, GC friends know that Kazantzakis name is actually Turkish?
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Postby magikthrill » Mon May 02, 2005 9:46 pm

insan wrote:I see no reason to restrict the number of posts based on ethnicity/nationality. It's irrelevant!

We have never talked about restrictions on freedom of speech in a united Cyprus. :lol: But I think Piratis means that if freedom of movement can be restricted for stability and viability of bi-zonal, bi-communal federation; why don't we restrict the freedom of speech, according to ethnicity just for self-amusement of Piratis likes. :lol: :lol:


insan,

my restrictng freedomon of movement you are not stabilizing a federation but a confederation.

you claim, it is not fair for TCs to not have politica equality in their own country.

but you dont think it is unfair for a GC not be able to live anywhere in his own country?

if you think that way, then this thread of piratis makes more sense than you!
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Postby insan » Mon May 02, 2005 10:17 pm

magikthrill wrote:
insan wrote:I see no reason to restrict the number of posts based on ethnicity/nationality. It's irrelevant!

We have never talked about restrictions on freedom of speech in a united Cyprus. :lol: But I think Piratis means that if freedom of movement can be restricted for stability and viability of bi-zonal, bi-communal federation; why don't we restrict the freedom of speech, according to ethnicity just for self-amusement of Piratis likes. :lol: :lol:


insan,

my restrictng freedomon of movement you are not stabilizing a federation but a confederation.

you claim, it is not fair for TCs to not have politica equality in their own country.

but you dont think it is unfair for a GC not be able to live anywhere in his own country?

if you think that way, then this thread of piratis makes more sense than you!



And by not restricting the freedom of movement, you are not stabilizing either federation or confederation but you are creating a TC minority in a GC state.
Imagine a mixed federation with no restrictions on anything. Everyone has full human rights. The number of GC citizens of so-called TC constituent state reached 450.000 in 15 years and number of TC citizens of TCCS reached 350.000.

Senate of GCCS composes of 21 GCs+3 TCs
Senate of TCCS composes of 15 GCs+9 TCs

Political structure based on political equality of two component states instead of political equality of two communities.

Here it is: The so-called bi-communal Federal Republic of Cyprus. Is this waht you want? If so, why don't you tell it directly? But do know that it does not make any sence to overwhelming majority of TCs.
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