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Christofiyas appears to have gone back on his word of 2 consituent founding states with equal polticial weight in a new republic and is reverting to a papadop style appraoch we need plenty of preparation before talks may start.

[Brittania]

Is this something he's told you in the cabinet meeting? Is it something you have a hunch about? Did you wake up today and say...hmmm that rascal is gonna back peddle today, the seagulls are flying upside down. Or is this just an attempt to hide your shameful behaviour in the solomou thread?

[Viewpoint]

Is this something he's told you in the cabinet meeting? Is it something you have a hunch about? Did you wake up today and say...hmmm that rascal is gonna back peddle today, the seagulls are flying upside down. Or is this just an attempt to hide your shameful behaviour in the solomou thread?

It was in our newspapers yesterday, that Christofiyas is slowly becoming another Papdop and even started to say the same things. We had high hope for this guy I hope he doesn't turn out like the rest of your leaders arrogant and one sided.

[Bananiot]

Christofias got told off by Papadopoulos after he met with Talat. He made amends with the Memorandum he signed with GB and his critics were silenced. He is probably doing a balancing act at the moment but his real intentions will be seen when the negotiations start. The same applies to Talat. I think these two will have to hurry up because this small window will probably close in 2009 just prior to the elections in the north which Talat is tipped to lose.

[Viewpoint]

Bananiot any other leader that Talat and you can kiss a solution goodbye, the alternatives are not even worth considering.

[pantheman]

Bananiot any other leader that Talat and you can kiss a solution goodbye, the alternatives are not even worth considering.

Firstly, to go in feet first and make agreements without proper consideration is just asking for real trouble. Come on, you have to at least agree that the problem is sufficiently complex to warrent in depth study before things are signed for?

This is just a tactic to push the GC side into something they may not really be happy with and its not a bloody car deal we are talking about, we are talk a nation here. VP even you much appreciate that.

I would be happy to wait for proper consultations and proper agreements BEFORE signatures fall otherwise we couldn't afford the consequences neither the GC nor the TC communities, there is alot riding on this.

As for Talat, well I don't think it will make any difference honestly as he is not the one making decisions anyway. Turkey is calling the shots here is is just the puppet (no disrespect to him, he cannot do anything different anyway). Threats of leadership change, losing windows of opportunities is just sales talk and that won't wash with anyone.

Everyone wants a solution, but as I have said before, I don't want just any solution I want the right solution for all for ever. period.

[Kikapu]

Is this something he's told you in the cabinet meeting? Is it something you have a hunch about? Did you wake up today and say...hmmm that rascal is gonna back peddle today, the seagulls are flying upside down. Or is this just an attempt to hide your shameful behaviour in the solomou thread?

It was in our newspapers yesterday, that Christofiyas is slowly becoming another Papdop and even started to say the same things. We had high hope for this guy I hope he doesn't turn out like the rest of your leaders arrogant and one sided.

Christofias is only offering what is agreed at the UN resolutions and nothing more, and if you read anything else to the contrary, it is only your 2004 Annan Plan dreams.

Haven't you woken up to the reality yet.?

It has been 4 years already since the 2004 AP.

It is time you have gotten over it just like any other "broken heart relationships" and search for a new one.

[Viewpoint]

Bananiot any other leader that Talat and you can kiss a solution goodbye, the alternatives are not even worth considering.

Firstly, to go in feet first and make agreements without proper consideration is just asking for real trouble. Come on, you have to at least agree that the problem is sufficiently complex to warrent in depth study before things are signed for?

This is just a tactic to push the GC side into something they may not really be happy with and its not a bloody car deal we are talking about, we are talk a nation here. VP even you much appreciate that.

I would be happy to wait for proper consultations and proper agreements BEFORE signatures fall otherwise we couldn't afford the consequences neither the GC nor the TC communities, there is alot riding on this.

As for Talat, well I don't think it will make any difference honestly as he is not the one making decisions anyway. Turkey is calling the shots here is is just the puppet (no disrespect to him, he cannot do anything different anyway). Threats of leadership change, losing windows of opportunities is just sales talk and that won't wash with anyone.

Everyone wants a solution, but as I have said before, I don't want just any solution I want the right solution for all for ever. period.

You are being very naive if you have not considered the fact of replacing Talat with someone who is not interested in a solution and the negative impact it would have on negotiations and influencing Turkey.

I'm glad you said for all, because that I take it includes us and as long as we are not happy with whats been put in front of us we have just as much right as you to say no.

[Kikapu]

Christofias got told off by Papadopoulos after he met with Talat. He made amends with the Memorandum he signed with GB and his critics were silenced. He is probably doing a balancing act at the moment but his real intentions will be seen when the negotiations start. The same applies to Talat. I think these two will have to hurry up because this small window will probably close in 2009 just prior to the elections in the north which Talat is tipped to lose.

So Bananiot, what ever happened to "we need to find a settlement by the end of 2008, or else" threats from Talat and the Gang.

Poor Paaul12 even opened a thread on the subject;

"2008 a Good year 4 the TRNC"
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15681

Why do you think Talat and the Gang decided to extend the "deadline" for the "or else" threats by 100%. I don't understand all this stuff, so perhaps you or VP can feel the gaps for us...........thanks.!

I just feel sorry for Paaul12, that he has been let down again for his victory party he was planning at the end of 2008. Poor bastard will have to wait until the end of 2009 now.

I tell you, there's no justice in this world, to make poor Paaul12 suffer like that.!!

[Kifeas]

Bananiot any other leader that Talat and you can kiss a solution goodbye, the alternatives are not even worth considering.

VP, if you think we are to be blackmailed that if Talat goes, any others to follow will be even more intransigent and unreasonable in their demands, then you are doing a terrible mistake! The victims in such an eventuality will mostly be the members of your community, as well as the future of your "beloved motherland!" As I so many times already explained to you, you are deluded to believe that you have even one chance in a million to attain recognition, and in my view trying to blackmail the GCs on this basis is tantamount to what poor karagioz used to do, before and after each time he was beaten up!

I suggest you come to your long forgotten senses, as soon as possible, and stop dreaming that you will ever get the GCs to sign you off the best half of our country, and then accept you as our equal partners on this basis! You are just being ridiculous to think you can have such a kind of an unreasonable solution outcome, in the expense of the GCs!