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[denizaksulu]

Watching the Nelson Mandela concert in London , Annie Lenox has paid him the greatest accolade , she said , Nelson Mandela the greatest Human on this Planet .
Where is Eliko ??

I am watching too. I just put Eliko to bed. He has an early wakeup call - 4.30 am.

I am waiting for Amy Winehouse.

Nice coffee today my friend.

Cheers

Gordon Brown on Mandela : The greatest human of our generation .

Amie Wine...House The greatest singer of my life at least , Love her Adore her voice , one of the greatests along Billie Holiday , Dinah Washington , Ella the Queen Fitzgerald , Nina Simone , Julie London , any one heard of them !!!
"""This Bitter Earth "", the greatest ever song ,for me , who sung it , anyone knows ??

They are all my old favorites.

Dinah Washington sang the 'The bitter earth'.

[miltiades]

Beautiful song , listening to it right now !

[perdike]

A bit off thread - Dinah Washington died of drug/alcohol overdose aged 39, after SEVEN marriages. The girl must have had hope unlimited! She is a great singer.
I too have love and respect for the humanity and courage of Nelson Mandela. I took my very young children to see him, when he visited London in 1997 (I think). He looked like a small doll standing in the balcony of the South African Embassy, but there was no doubting the voice broadcast around Trafalgar Square. It was an occasion when one could truly feel happy to acknowledege the presence of a great human (as opposed to the parade of awfulness we meet via news media everyday). I also think Bishop Desmond Tutu is a courageous and good man.

[BOF]

I will never meet Nelson Mandela, which to me will be the main unfulfilled thing i wished i did in my life. Mahatma Ghandi was a great pacifist
but to endure what Mandela did at the hands of a brutal neo nazi government and come out and not seek or exact revenge is truly to turn the other cheek.
A great list of singers there miltiades, but i have to disagree about Amy Whinehouse...good yes but not in the list of greats you mention.....
Ella or Julie London singing Cry me a river...........unbeatable.!
BOF

[Damsi]

June 19, 2008
WASHINGTON - Some U.S. lawmakers are trying to pass legislation to remove former South African President Nelson Mandela from a U.S. list of terrorists by his 90th birthday next month, officials said on Thursday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25272057/

"The 1960 UN Declaration on Decolonisation granted peoples the right to self-determination if they did not have their own state or were under colonial domination, alien occupation or racist rule. This right did not automatically legitimise violent means (or even secession), but subsequent UN General Assembly resolutions and declarations did condone the waging of armed struggles by recognised liberation movements. The UN also granted observer status to a number of liberation movements in the General Assembly.

Defining terrorism is more problematic. Despite several international conventions against terrorism, there is, as yet, no agreement on what the term refers to. Scholars have found no less than 109 definitions used from 1936 to 1981. The one used by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, for example, contains three elements: illegal use of force; intention to intimidate or coerce; and underlying political or social motives.

Apply this definition to the ANC or Zanu-PF and the difficulty of distinguishing between terrorist groups and liberation movements becomes apparent.

The Security Council has never legitimised the use of force by any liberation movement, but it does have the authority to decide when force is legal under international law. Even then, however, not all acts committed in the course of an internationally recognised armed struggle would automatically be acceptable. Freedom fighters waging just wars still commit atrocities. Does that make them terrorists?

Legally, no. But practically, the answer often depends on who holds the power to affix the label. - Michael van Winden"

[miltiades]

8) I will never meet Nelson Mandela, which to me will be the main unfulfilled thing i wished i did in my life. Mahatma Ghandi was a great pacifist
but to endure what Mandela did at the hands of a brutal neo nazi government and come out and not seek or exact revenge is truly to turn the other cheek.
A great list of singers there miltiades, but i have to disagree about Amy Whinehouse...good yes but not in the list of greats you mention.....
Ella or Julie London singing Cry me a river...........unbeatable.!
BOF

I have somehow taken Amy on board as I think she has the greatest voice of the last 10 or so years.
Enormous talent shame about the rest.
cry me a river , my favourite interpretation Julie London , what a great song.

[perdike]

Hello Miltiades! You like such lovely but such sad songs . . . don't tell me you still carry a torch for someone????? (Your secret is safe with me!)

[Eliko]

I see it has just been announced that the name of 'Nelson Mandela' and his A.N.C. party are to be erased from the 'Terror Watch List' of the USA.

Apparently 'Old George' wants it all signed up and delivered in time for Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday.

Funny old game 'Politics'.

[denizaksulu]

8) I will never meet Nelson Mandela, which to me will be the main unfulfilled thing i wished i did in my life. Mahatma Ghandi was a great pacifist
but to endure what Mandela did at the hands of a brutal neo nazi government and come out and not seek or exact revenge is truly to turn the other cheek.
A great list of singers there miltiades, but i have to disagree about Amy Whinehouse...good yes but not in the list of greats you mention.....
Ella or Julie London singing Cry me a river...........unbeatable.!
BOF

I have somehow taken Amy on board as I think she has the greatest voice of the last 10 or so years.
Enormous talent shame about the rest.
cry me a river , my favourite interpretation Julie London , what a great song.

Amy Winehouse will sing at Glastonbury tonight. Set your recorders. Lovely girl. I'd shoot the dealers though.