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by **greggy** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:45 am

He was imprisoned because he was a terrorist. The ANC and its military wing Mkonto isiswe were terrorist. When you have had a bomb go off next to you and seen the carnage and bloodshed first hand, then you have earned the right to comment. When you have seen someone burned alive for opposing the movement, then you have earned the right to comment. If youre going to quote history, then look into the whole thing, not just whats convenient to your argument

by **miltiades** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:18 am

greggy wrote:He was imprisoned because he was a terrorist. The ANC and its military wing Mkonto isiswe were terrorist. When you have had a bomb go off next to you and seen the carnage and bloodshed first hand, then you have earned the right to comment. When you have seen someone burned alive for opposing the movement, then you have earned the right to comment. If youre going to quote history, then look into the whole thing, not just whats convenient to your argument

Why is respecting the greatest African ever be convenient to my argument. !! Besides what did you expect the people of South Africa to do . Carry on being exploited ridiculed , kept as slaves to the Afrikaners and enjoy apartheid ? So you are suggesting that the only time I or anyone else has the right to comment is when a bomb goes off next to me ! Wouldn't I be dead then ? Mate what DID you have for breakfast !!

May I know which history books on South Africa you recommend I read !

by **Eliko** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:23 am

greggy wrote:He was imprisoned because he was a terrorist. The ANC and its military wing Mkonto isiswe were terrorist. When you have had a bomb go off next to you and seen the carnage and bloodshed first hand, then you have earned the right to comment. When you have seen someone burned alive for opposing the movement, then you have earned the right to comment. If youre going to quote history, then look into the whole thing, not just whats convenient to your argument

greggy, "I hear you mate !" :wink:

by **greggy** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:29 am

Maltiades i think you need to learn the definition of a slave. No where in SA did i ever see a black man or woman chained and forced to work for no money. They were paid a minimum wage defined by government (which is a lot more than can be said for the sri lankan and filippino maids in cyprus)
If it was a struggle for freedom against aparthied why were more black killed by blacks in the 43 years of aparthied. I think you need to educate yourself on the subject before speaking shit

by **miltiades** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:39 am

greggy wrote:Maltiades i think you need to learn the definition of a slave. No where in SA did i ever see a black man or woman chained and forced to work for no money. They were paid a minimum wage defined by government (which is a lot more than can be said for the sri lankan and filippino maids in cyprus)
If it was a struggle for freedom against aparthied why were more black killed by blacks in the 43 years of apartheid. I think you need to educate yourself on the subject before speaking shit

This thread is about one man , the greatest African ever. It is not about the merits of independence , how much the blacks werepaid or how many blacks were killed by blacks. THE MAN came out of prison having served 19 years , He does not seek revenge He seeks reconciliation He leads his people into a peaceful transition from apartheid to democracy , this is why HE is the greatest .
I asked what you ate for breakfast , the only response was shit !!

by **greggy** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:45 am

Mate where on earth do you see peaceful transition in SA. You need to lose you island mentality and educate yourself on worldly matters. Keep hosing your driveway down dude and leave the politics to those who know

by **denizaksulu** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:56 am

miltiades wrote:
Eliko wrote:miltiades, I strongly suspect that Nelson Mandela is also the greatest of all the African 'Puppets' ?.

I do not suppose you will agree with such a statement though.

Eliko , may I respectfully ask you to piss off !!

Miltiades, cool it. Eliko is not the same Eliko of the past. Cold Turkey comes to mind. :wink:

by **Eliko** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:04 am

denizaksulu wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Eliko wrote:miltiades, I strongly suspect that Nelson Mandela is also the greatest of all the African 'Puppets' ?.

I do not suppose you will agree with such a statement though.

Eliko , may I respectfully ask you to piss off !!

Miltiades, cool it. Eliko is not the same Eliko of the past. Cold Turkey comes to mind.

Deniz, not sure I understand the significance of your remarks, kindly elucidate. :lol:

by **denizaksulu** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:09 am

Eliko wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Eliko wrote:miltiades, I strongly suspect that Nelson Mandela is also the greatest of all the African 'Puppets' ?.

I do not suppose you will agree with such a statement though.

Eliko , may I respectfully ask you to piss off !!

Miltiades, cool it. Eliko is not the same Eliko of the past. Cold Turkey comes to mind.

Deniz, not sure I understand the significance of your remarks, kindly elucidate.

Your suspicions are suspect. Perhaps you ought to have expanded more on the great man in the first place. Then, my remark would need no 'elucidation'.

Thank you

by **miltiades** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:09 am

greggy wrote:Mate where on earth do you see peaceful transition in SA. You need to lose you island mentality and educate yourself on worldly matters. Keep hosing your driveway down dude and leave the politics to those who know

Leave the politics to you , I presume you mean you ?
May I ask what has your "education " in worldly matters achieved for you "dude " !!! I have never been called a dude by anyone .
ps .Which island mentality ought I lose ?

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