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[Piratis]

same tango started again .....

1960 ................ ROC....................1963-1974 Brainless in action............

!974............2008 Brainless did not understand it yet

I think it is very obvious who is the brainless here Halil. I didn't want to offend you but I think you should have a deep look in your own (non) intelligence before you come here to give lessons to others.

There is nothing "brainless" in asking for democracy, human rights and the freedom of Cyprus from foreign troops that are here to impose their will against the wishes of the Cypriot people.

[Piratis]

So no one blames the Turkish Cypriots? so dont you think its time to remove the isolation just as the EU supports.

I didn't vote in the poll yet. Do you want me to vote for "TCs" in the way you voted for GCs so to shoot your argument down?

Of course most TCs in here voted "GCs" in the poll, since Turkey and UK and their partners in crime and they wouldn't vote for them.

Most GCs on the other hand voted for Turkey and UK, not because TCs have no blame, but because obviously UK and Turkey are the ones who have the power to enforce what they wanted in Cyprus. TCs were just their puppets who were used by UK and Turkey so they could get what they wanted from our island.

[ttoli]

Had the GC community decided against acting on the idea of Enosis there would never have been a problem in Cyprus, its very simple. All roads lead back to the fact that GC's had a fantasy which they tried to enact and it backfired terribly for them.

The idea of "enosis" was the same idea that all Greeks had in all Hellenic islands and territories that were under foreign rule. Actually is the same idea that all those nations that were under a foreign empire had: To liberate themselves and create their own free state.

This idea started in Cyprus at exactly the same time it started in all other Hellenic territories:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

So are you now going to tell me that the "problem" was that Cypriots, along with the rest of Greeks and every other Nation under some oppressive empire, wanted their freedom and self-determination?

Are you going to tell me that there was no problem that Cypriots were the slaves of Turks and later the British, but the problem was that Cypriots wanted their freedom? So it was fine and no problem for Cyprus to be under Turkish and British empires against the will of Cypriots, but it was not fine and a problem if Cyprus was part of a free Greek state which is what the overwhelming majority of Cypriots themselves wanted?

Who is responsible for the Cyprus problem are those foreign powers that wanted and continue to want to impose their rule over our island and keep their troops here. That has always been our problem, and our (Cypriots) problem is the Cyprus Problem.

The Cyprus problem will be solved only when all foreign troops leave from our island and abandon their efforts to exercise control over Cyprus, either by direct military force, or by using the TC minority on the island to deny to the Cypriot people democracy and human rights.

Democracy for whom? dont you mean democracy for GCs so they can do whatever they wish to turn this island into a Greek island with or without its TC population.

Democracy as it factions in all other countries. In Turkey do they ask separetely their ethnic minorities about what Turkey should do? And why did the Turks named Asia Minor as "Turkey" when 20% of the population are not Turks? Did they ask them if they agreed? (actually when the Turks declared Asia Minor as Turkey, the minorities there where even more numerous)

Cyprus has been a Hellenic island for 1000s of years. Because your minority was forcefully created on our island some time ago this doesn't mean it stopped being Hellenic. The Ottomans did the same with almost all territories they once occupied. So what? If you didn't like what Cyprus is and the Cypriots, then you shouldn't have come to our island in the first place.

We have no problem with your minority staying on this island and enjoying your human and democratic rights like a 100% equal Cypriot and EU citizens. but you have no right to undemocratically force your will on Cyprus any more. We are not living in the era of the Ottoman empire.

Does Switzerland or Belgium have democracy, there are many versions throughout the world but you problem is sharing on an equal footing, you still have problems accepting we are indigenous on this island and feel that being here longer should give you the right to steam roll over us and create a GC state run by GCs, that will never happen the sooner you realize this the better.

In Belgium and Switzerland what you have are separate cantons/states. This separation of the population was somehting that preexisted the states, it was not something created by illegal means of invasion and ethnic cleansing. What you have to realize is that the 80 of the population of north Cyprus are Greek Cypriots and you can not have a separate state on land that belongs by 80% to us.

You make as much sense as you do on topix.net

[halil]

There was a ROC............ BANG ...BANG ....Bang ...........bangggggggggggggg ......................zzzzzz

YE There was a democracy !!!!!

No one forced you or me ....... İf they did ...İf you like your country .You shouldn't believe them .You shouldn't take the guns into your hand go to mountains or frontiers .

This is our true story and we are the players .

we shouldn't play this game ....Don't talk about democracy man .... these are only excuses .... misdirecting .... and cheap words .... we are full up with this nice words .

Cyprus History is started at 1960 . İ don't care what was all about before .

but it did have only 3 years .... we .the TC's and GC's are distorted it .Simple as this ...and i will say it everyday and every minute ....


Hİ world wake up . we the Cypriots are destroyed it.

[Piratis]

You make as much sense as you do on topix.net

I don't know what this "topic.net" is.

If you can not make sense of what I say then the problem is with your own intelligence.

[Piratis]

There was a ROC............ BANG ...BANG ....Bang ...........bangggggggggggggg ......................zzzzzz

YE There was a democracy !!!!!

No one forced you or me ....... İf they did ...İf you like your country .You shouldn't believe them .You shouldn't take the guns into your hand go to mountains or frontiers .

This is our true story and we are the players .

we shouldn't play this game ....Don't talk about democracy man .... these are only excuses .... misdirecting .... and cheap words .... we are full up with this nice words .

Cyprus History is started at 1960 . İ don't care what was all about before .

but it did have only 3 years .... we .the TC's and GC's are distorted it .Simple as this ...and i will say it everyday and every minute ....


Hİ world wake up . we the Cypriots are destroyed it.

Cyprus history does not start in 1960 but many 1000s years earlier, and Democracy and human rights are not "cheap words".

You can repeat your slogans as long as you want. But empty slogans can not defeat the valid arguments I made earlier.

[paliometoxo]

turkey only

[pantheman]

Gav you missed the USA in this poll. They are heavily involved in this shit. Architects of all evil.

[Piratis]

Gav you missed the USA in this poll. They are heavily involved in this shit. Architects of all evil.

The USA did play a role, but they were not the architects and they were not actively involved until the last decades.

[soyer]

turkey only

Yes Turkey only