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[GAVCARoCOM]

I voted for all three gav old boy.

(PS. Is there something wrong with your keyboard?)

cool correct answer

[Magnus]

I put all three but I would have added the Americans too if it was an option, so all four.

[bill cobbett]

I put all three but I would have added the Americans too if it was an option, so all four.

Yes really I wanted to vote for all 4 as well but we didn't have the choice.
Must have been gav's dodgy keyboard.

[Big Al]

Had the GC community decided against acting on the idea of Enosis there would never have been a problem in Cyprus, its very simple. All roads lead back to the fact that GC's had a fantasy which they tried to enact and it backfired terribly for them.

[Issy1956]

Agreed.

[halil]

I did'nt vote .

we all TC's and GCs has got responsible for Cyprus problem .

İf we were honest and we were caring about Cyprus .we wouldn't listen what others were saying .We wouldn't take our guns and open frontiers .
we wouldn't listen what our leaders were saying . we wouldn't support EOKA or TMT .

İt is our fault and today we are paying for it .

İ hope we can get good lessones from our mistakes .

Don't blame the others .

İt's all our fault .........................................................

[Kikapu]

I did'nt vote .

we all TC's and GCs has got responsible for Cyprus problem .

İf we were honest and we were caring about Cyprus .we wouldn't listen what others were saying .We wouldn't take our guns and open frontiers .
we wouldn't listen what our leaders were saying . we wouldn't support EOKA or TMT .

İt is our fault and today we are paying for it .

İ hope we can get good lessones from our mistakes .

Don't blame the others .

İt's all our fault .........................................................

I support your post Halil.

[Tim Drayton]

Why is the USA in general, and Henry Kissinger in particular, not given as an option?

The main thesis of the respected book "The Cyprus Conspiracy" by Brendan O'Malley and Ian Craig is that they are to blame.

I am unable to choose any one of these options. Too much generalisation is required. There were many actors, and they all share in the culpability.

[Piratis]

Had the GC community decided against acting on the idea of Enosis there would never have been a problem in Cyprus, its very simple. All roads lead back to the fact that GC's had a fantasy which they tried to enact and it backfired terribly for them.

The idea of "enosis" was the same idea that all Greeks had in all Hellenic islands and territories that were under foreign rule. Actually is the same idea that all those nations that were under a foreign empire had: To liberate themselves and create their own free state.

This idea started in Cyprus at exactly the same time it started in all other Hellenic territories:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

So are you now going to tell me that the "problem" was that Cypriots, along with the rest of Greeks and every other Nation under some oppressive empire, wanted their freedom and self-determination?

Are you going to tell me that there was no problem that Cypriots were the slaves of Turks and later the British, but the problem was that Cypriots wanted their freedom? So it was fine and no problem for Cyprus to be under Turkish and British empires against the will of Cypriots, but it was not fine and a problem if Cyprus was part of a free Greek state which is what the overwhelming majority of Cypriots themselves wanted?

Who is responsible for the Cyprus problem are those foreign powers that wanted and continue to want to impose their rule over our island and keep their troops here. That has always been our problem, and our (Cypriots) problem is the Cyprus Problem.

The Cyprus problem will be solved only when all foreign troops leave from our island and abandon their efforts to exercise control over Cyprus, either by direct military force, or by using the TC minority on the island to deny to the Cypriot people democracy and human rights.

[Viewpoint]

Had the GC community decided against acting on the idea of Enosis there would never have been a problem in Cyprus, its very simple. All roads lead back to the fact that GC's had a fantasy which they tried to enact and it backfired terribly for them.

The idea of "enosis" was the same idea that all Greeks had in all Hellenic islands and territories that were under foreign rule. Actually is the same idea that all those nations that were under a foreign empire had: To liberate themselves and create their own free state.

This idea started in Cyprus at exactly the same time it started in all other Hellenic territories:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

So are you now going to tell me that the "problem" was that Cypriots, along with the rest of Greeks and every other Nation under some oppressive empire, wanted their freedom and self-determination?

Are you going to tell me that there was no problem that Cypriots were the slaves of Turks and later the British, but the problem was that Cypriots wanted their freedom? So it was fine and no problem for Cyprus to be under Turkish and British empires against the will of Cypriots, but it was not fine and a problem if Cyprus was part of a free Greek state which is what the overwhelming majority of Cypriots themselves wanted?

Who is responsible for the Cyprus problem are those foreign powers that wanted and continue to want to impose their rule over our island and keep their troops here. That has always been our problem, and our (Cypriots) problem is the Cyprus Problem.

The Cyprus problem will be solved only when all foreign troops leave from our island and abandon their efforts to exercise control over Cyprus, either by direct military force, or by using the TC minority on the island to deny to the Cypriot people democracy and human rights.

Democracy for whom? dont you mean democracy for GCs so they can do whatever they wish to turn this island into a Greek island with or without its TC population.