The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


ECHR: CASE OF SOLOMOU v. TURKEY

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:07 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Your trying to provoke in order to get an answer this is more a reflection of your own inadaquecy to influence people as they do not value your opinion or input as you are 100% biased towards the GCs.


Therefore you have no BALLS to answer my question, but instead you want to disguise your inadequacies by using your old tired "your GC point of view" remarks to me which no one else views it as such, so you better find something else to "beat the drums with". I had asked you a straight forward question that had nothing to do with politics, but just you as a Human Being.

Viewpoint wrote:I would have avoided being in that situation like the plague as I could easily anticipate the danger I would be putting myself in.


You are still not answering the question. Jesus VP, how many times do I need to repeat the same damn question for you.??


Try reading my response and taking it in, its an answer to your question the second question was not for me but BigAl.


I've read your NO ANSWER answer VP, therefore my answer to you stands as is.!!


Thats all you are going to get and deserve.
User avatar
Viewpoint
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 25214
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:48 pm
Location: Nicosia/Lefkosa

Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:14 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Was Soloman guilty of going up the pole or entering a buffer zone with intent to infiltrate into the TRNC?

Was the punishment in line with the crime? from a GC perspective or a TC perspective?

What do you think VP ??
Infiltrate you say ? I would have thought that the only infiltrators were and still are the 40 thousand foreign troops occupying the north of Cyprus !
ps. This is how the International community , United Nations , Europe etc view the Turkish army in Cyprus .


""""FRENCH Prime Minister Francois Fillon yesterday said his country could not accept into the EU a country that has occupying forces in another European state.

"We are observing with great care the completion of the commitments Turkey has taken on, but I would like to say that we simply cannot accept into the EU a country, which has occupying troops in another European country," stated the French Prime Minister """
User avatar
miltiades
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 19837
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:01 pm

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:56 pm

miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Was Soloman guilty of going up the pole or entering a buffer zone with intent to infiltrate into the TRNC?

Was the punishment in line with the crime? from a GC perspective or a TC perspective?

What do you think VP ??
Infiltrate you say ? I would have thought that the only infiltrators were and still are the 40 thousand foreign troops occupying the north of Cyprus !
ps. This is how the International community , United Nations , Europe etc view the Turkish army in Cyprus .


""""FRENCH Prime Minister Francois Fillon yesterday said his country could not accept into the EU a country that has occupying forces in another European state.

"We are observing with great care the completion of the commitments Turkey has taken on, but I would like to say that we simply cannot accept into the EU a country, which has occupying troops in another European country," stated the French Prime Minister """


My answer would be yes to both questions.

As for Turkey entering the EU imo it is a long shot and as Turkey realizes its chances will diminish turning into a speical partnership deal, this will of course remove GC leverage over the EU to force Turkey to make concessions. Who do you think will ultimately lose?
User avatar
Viewpoint
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 25214
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:48 pm
Location: Nicosia/Lefkosa

Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:01 pm

Our loss VP , yours and mine , we both know that the day Turkey joins the EU it will be the BIGGEST ever event in the history of this troubled part of the globe. I support Turkeys efforts in joining the EU I hope she does however realize there are sacrifices to make for the sake of the future generations to come .
User avatar
miltiades
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 19837
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:01 pm

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:05 pm

miltiades wrote:Our loss VP , yours and mine , we both know that the day Turkey joins the EU it will be the BIGGEST ever event in the history of this troubled part of the globe. I support Turkeys efforts in joining the EU I hope she does however realize there are sacrifices to make for the sake of the future generations to come .


I am not as optimistic as you because I really do not believe Turkey is a European nation, she suffers from an identity crisis and should decide whether she would rather be bottom of the league in the EU or top of the league in the middle east.

Where would rthat leave the GCs up the river without a paddle imo as they will have no leverage over Turkey and subsequently the TCs. What do you think the result of the referendum woudl have been if the GCs answer was the deciding factor to them entering?
User avatar
Viewpoint
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 25214
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:48 pm
Location: Nicosia/Lefkosa

Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:12 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:Our loss VP , yours and mine , we both know that the day Turkey joins the EU it will be the BIGGEST ever event in the history of this troubled part of the globe. I support Turkeys efforts in joining the EU I hope she does however realize there are sacrifices to make for the sake of the future generations to come .


I am not as optimistic as you because I really do not believe Turkey is a European nation, she suffers from an identity crisis and should decide whether she would rather be bottom of the league in the EU or top of the league in the middle east.

Where would rthat leave the GCs up the river without a paddle imo as they will have no leverage over Turkey and subsequently the TCs. What do you think the result of the referendum woudl have been if the GCs answer was the deciding factor to them entering?

Turkey is indeed undergoing an identity crisis torn between this and that ::
Image
Which do you chose VP and in so doing are you not disregarding the democratic rights of those that want to see Turkey as an Islamic fundamentalist nation ??


Image
User avatar
miltiades
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 19837
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:01 pm

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:17 pm

I have no say in which way Turkey goes, the TRNC is whats important for me and if we cannot reach a solution we feel comfortbale with we will be absorbed by Turkey this we came to terms with many years ago.
User avatar
Viewpoint
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 25214
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:48 pm
Location: Nicosia/Lefkosa

Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I have no say in which way Turkey goes, the TRNC is whats important for me and if we cannot reach a solution we feel comfortbale with we will be absorbed by Turkey this we came to terms with many years ago.

And that would be a catastrophe of immeasurable consequences. The Cypriot people will NEVER accept part of their country under Turkish occupation for ever , Turkey can not possibly take this lightly .
The T/Cs will rebel , make no mistake the T/Cs know which image they would like to project to the world and it is not going to be one of being a part of Turkey , outside the EU and faced with the prospect of going back in time .
Turkey will sooner rather than later be held accountable for all the unrest that will follow in the occupied part of Cyprus. Casinos and prostitution dont exactly go hand in hand with Islamic principles do they VP .
User avatar
miltiades
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 19837
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:01 pm

Postby Brittania » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:23 am

Viewpoint wrote:Was Soloman guilty of going up the pole or entering a buffer zone with intent to infiltrate into the TRNC?

Was the punishment in line with the crime? from a GC perspective or a TC perspective?


Was the punishment in line withthe crime? Please answer.

Also please do the same for Isaak and the other poor soul who got shot a few months earlier for gathering snails. His head wound was created by a point blank shot while he was on his knees.

And please stick to the subject. This is a thread about the cold blooded execution of a citizen of the Republic of Cyprus by foreign troops.
User avatar
Brittania
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 366
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:04 pm

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:27 am

Viewpoint wrote:Was Soloman guilty of going up the pole or entering a buffer zone with intent to infiltrate into the TRNC?

Was the punishment in line with the crime? from a GC perspective or a TC perspective?


What offence was stated on the charge sheet or indictment?
User avatar
Tim Drayton
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 8799
Joined: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:32 am
Location: Limassol/Lemesos

PreviousNext

Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests