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[GAVCARoCOM]

GREEK COMMANDOES KILLED THE TURKISH SOLDIER"

The Stohos Newspaper published in Greece issued a declaration
noting that the Elen Brigade, consisting of Greek commandoes,
killed Turkish soldier, Allahverdi Kilic. Upon the decleration
published in the Stohos Newspaper which is financially supported
by Greek Foreign Ministry and various institutions, Andreas
Milonas (Greek Cypriot, 41) has been arrested and a Greek retired
major general Yanis Hacistavru, a member of the organization, is
being investigated.

Meanwhile, following the fire which broke out involving Greek
Cypriot soldiers who fired at a Turkish Cypriot sentry-box in
Lefke the previous evening, nearly 50 acres of the Turkish
Cypriot territory were burnt out.

[CopperLine]

Is it too much to acknowledge that police forces and armed forces around the world have shot and killed, detained and tortured, thousands of innocent people ? I can't see much point in the nationalist one-upmanship in this thread that tries to defend the indefensible of one's own police/army's actions only to decry the actions of the other side's police/army.

The issue is surely whether there is accountability which can lead to some sort of justice - that's what the ECHR case is about.

[GAVCARoCOM]

thats happening all over the world

look

[Kikapu]

Is it too much to acknowledge that police forces and armed forces around the world have shot and killed, detained and tortured, thousands of innocent people ? I can't see much point in the nationalist one-upmanship in this thread that tries to defend the indefensible of one's own police/army's actions only to decry the actions of the other side's police/army.

The issue is surely whether there is accountability which can lead to some sort of justice - that's what the ECHR case is about.

I can't see much point in the nationalist one-upmanship in this thread that tries to defend the indefensible of one's own police/army's actions only to decry the actions of the other side's police/army.

My point exactly CopperLine.!!

[Kikapu]

thats not an accident . its not same thing . u have to admit UN didnt do enough . it was a mistake and as you can see turkey will pay for the penalty . but why everyone scared to see the UN foult ??? how people dont wanna see that uk planes help todays cyprus problem happen . you have to look wide

I rest my case with you Gav. You are thick as two planks.!!

look kikapu you are nice person . but then how will you explain the murder of Allahverdi Kilic which the GCs passed and shoot him to death in Derynia ???? and they shoot him more then 18 times. and the other guy get disabled after attack . but you know who we blame mainly . the UN which they let them to pass he was 20 years old

I'm only nice to sensible and reasonable people, and not to those who are acting like idiots.

As CopperLine stated, it is no point bringing other cases forward to try and justify what we are talking about now. We are talking about these two cases, because the courts have given their verdict, therefore we know the facts. When we learn the facts of other cases you want to talk about, we will talk about them at that time.

[GAVCARoCOM]

the case is closed and turkey newspapers shows that they are going to pay the fine . 339.000 euro

[growuptcs]

GAV:
look kikapu you are nice person . but then how will you explain the murder of Allahverdi Kilic which the GCs passed and shoot him to death in Derynia ???? and they shoot him more then 18 times. and the other guy get disabled after attack . but you know who we blame mainly . the UN which they let them to pass he was 20 years old

Gav, when you get cornered(which is 95% of the time), stop asking for explantions with so and so's death. GROW UP MAN. Do GC's bring up the past with deaths and negativity? No. You just don't know how else to react because your idiotic beliefs take over your stupidity. Didn't your mama ever teach you IF YOU HAVE NOTHING POSITIVE TO SAY, dont say anything. I would prefer if you stay off these boards and work a little bit for your own sanity. Stop blaming everyone else for your own misery.

[GAVCARoCOM]

Many post on this topic insulting TCs . whay talking about past !!!!!! speacially in this time . i even posted seperate topic for that and it seems everyone wanna talk about past

[growuptcs]

Gav, when GC's talk about the past, its to take off where Turkey left us last. 1974. You know that time where you thought you were right and cleansed people from their homes. Well nows its time for the GC's to be heard, and dealt with. Can't throw us under a carpet, so now what, just keep ignoring Turkeys violations? Mind me asking, but did you finish high school? Because your comprehensive skills are that of a 10 year old.

[Kikapu]

Gav, stop protecting the guilty and stop trying to put the blame on others, because all you are doing is making justification for the Cold Blooded Murderers who are wondering amongst you in the north. When you do not condemn these brutal killings, you might as well condone them. When you don't demand justice to be served on these Cold Blooded Murderers, then you are protecting them. These were nothing more than a barbaric acts at it's worse, and every TC who has not condemned such acts, are guilty by association by allowing these animals to live amongst them in their community, specially when they are identified as the ones who had committed these crimes against the unarmed individuals. So once again, stop looking for excuses and blaming others and start condemning these Cold Blooded Murderers. If not, you are only hurting the TC community in the long run.

He should, not have been anywhere near that pole end of story, if you are warned not to run into a field full mines and ignore all the warnings then whos to blame?

The above post also applies to you VP. Stop making excuses, because that's all you two are doing. You and Gav both are acting like agents in defending these Cold Blooded Murderers. Stop making useless analogies with the burning house or how sacred the damn flag is. There cannot be anything more sacred than Human Life. It's about time you got your god damn priorities straight.

Are you going to condemn these murdering animals or not.???

Looks like VP has run up to his bed, so not to answer my question.!!

Not to worry, I'll get him in the morning.