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[Feisty]

fiesty you fake don't ever call me a liar. i'm not a racist , i have mixed race nephews and nieces,you claim to know the laws on libel and slander so be very carefull.

Nothing is libel or slander if it can be proved to be true.
I proved you to be a liar above so can call you one with gay abandon. Now could you just ignore me the same way I ignore you?
Mind you, one wonders what I am supposed to be a fake in.

[perdike]

Hi Feisty! Where you been?

[Feisty]

Well I've taken my 80 year old mum out to buy some new furniture, had lunch out and now just come back to start stripping the wallpaper before I decorate for her. I'm just having a cuppa and my daily dip into the forum while I drink it.
Is that a detailed enough itinerary for you?

[bill cobbett]

We don't seem to have considered the situation re FofS in Turkey and in its colony of the Occupied Territories of CY.

Here is the link to the wiki on the infamous Article 301 of that foul state's penal code:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_30 ... al_code%29

...and here is an extract from there (there are some refs to amendments - these are pretty minor amendments. In essence it restricts F of S in Turkey by saying:-


" A person who publicly denigrates Turkishness, the Republic or the Grand National Assembly of Turkey, shall be punishable by imprisonment of between six months and three years.

A person who publicly denigrates the Government of the Republic of Turkey, the judicial institutions of the State, the military or security organizations shall be punishable by imprisonment of between six months and two years.

In cases where denigration of Turkishness is committed by a Turkish citizen in another country the punishment shall be increased by one third.

Expressions of thought intended to criticize shall not constitute a crime. "

Don't think I'd like to live there.

[roseandchan]

fiesty you proved nothing. anyone who knows me will tell you i'm not a racist! you are only on this forum because of your so called business investments.its clear from other posts that you don't want to live here. its all about making money. i'm sure now with markets falling you would be better to invest elsewhere and do cyprus a favour.maybe indian or africa,have been told north korea is the new hotspot. i feel for all the greek cypriots who have to suffer idiots like you. please keep her in the south. there is no place here in the north for people like you.

[bill cobbett]

Here is a one-line quotation from the French philosopher Voltaire:-

" Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write. "

Voltaire, letter to M. le Riche, February 6, 1770

[Feisty]

We don't seem to have considered the situation re FofS in Turkey and in its colony of the Occupied Territories of CY.

Here is the link to the wiki on the infamous Article 301 of that foul state's penal code:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_30 ... al_code%29

...and here is an extract from there (there are some refs to amendments - these are pretty minor amendments. In essence it restricts F of S in Turkey by saying:-


" A person who publicly denigrates Turkishness, the Republic or the Grand National Assembly of Turkey, shall be punishable by imprisonment of between six months and three years.

A person who publicly denigrates the Government of the Republic of Turkey, the judicial institutions of the State, the military or security organizations shall be punishable by imprisonment of between six months and two years.

In cases where denigration of Turkishness is committed by a Turkish citizen in another country the punishment shall be increased by one third.

Expressions of thought intended to criticize shall not constitute a crime. "

Don't think I'd like to live there.

Don't know about living there Bill, I certainly would not even visit an illegally occupied country but that is purely a personal view. I've only visited Nicosia once and found the large Turkish flag in the hillside as I approached extremely offensive so how it makes Cypriots feel I cannot begin to imagine.

[bill cobbett]

We don't seem to have considered the situation re FofS in Turkey and in its colony of the Occupied Territories of CY.

Here is the link to the wiki on the infamous Article 301 of that foul state's penal code:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_30 ... al_code%29

...and here is an extract from there (there are some refs to amendments - these are pretty minor amendments. In essence it restricts F of S in Turkey by saying:-


" A person who publicly denigrates Turkishness, the Republic or the Grand National Assembly of Turkey, shall be punishable by imprisonment of between six months and three years.

A person who publicly denigrates the Government of the Republic of Turkey, the judicial institutions of the State, the military or security organizations shall be punishable by imprisonment of between six months and two years.

In cases where denigration of Turkishness is committed by a Turkish citizen in another country the punishment shall be increased by one third.

Expressions of thought intended to criticize shall not constitute a crime. "

Don't think I'd like to live there.

Don't know about living there Bill, I certainly would not even visit an illegally occupied country but that is purely a personal view. I've only visited Nicosia once and found the large Turkish flag in the hillside as I approached extremely offensive so how it makes Cypriots feel I cannot begin to imagine.

Hi Feisty our dear.

I suppose we have to consider the right of our northern brothers and sisters to collective political self-expression (or gestures!) countered by the views of others which definitely include the offence to which you refer.

We may also consider the unnecessary environmental degradation which has ruined what used to be a very fine landscape feature. That is, when travelling from the south, when you saw the capital city of the Cypriots framed by the northern mountains. It used to be such a beautiful, near inspirational, sight.

[Feisty]

I'm afraid that at the end of the day no one can ever do right for doing wrong.
Take the UK and other troops in Afghanistan. Some approve, some not.
Before the intervention women were not allowed to be educated. Now girls go to school. Who can disapprove of that, but once again I don't know enough about it to be able to argue the situation. I'm sure several will be quick to criticise me for this but again I'd say I'm not a politician and I'd defy anyone to know a lot about world affairs if it is not their job.

[Magnus]

In cases where denigration of Turkishness is committed by a Turkish citizen in another country the punishment shall be increased by one third.

This might be a stupid question, but if it happens in another country then how can the Turkish government punish the person?

Also, lets say someone makes a joke about being Turkish (assuming there is such a thing as self-deprecating humour in Turkish) does that constitute 'denigration of Turkishness'?