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Postby Eliko » Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:38 pm

RichardB, the words are part of a song taken from "the Ballad of Joe McDonell" which you may like to view via 'Google'.

It is sung by 'The Wolfe Tones' and I recommend that you should view it. :wink:
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Re: Words of TRUTH.

Postby Eliko » Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:43 pm

bigdog wrote:
Eliko wrote:It struck me that these words (extracted from a 'Partisan's song') could be used in many areas of conflict these days.

Those who oppressed the nation which produced the man that composed the song, are the SAME that are now engaged in oppression elsewhere.


"And you dare to call ME a 'Terrorist' whilst YOU look down your gun,

When I think of all the deeds that YOU have done.

YOU have plundered many nations,

Divided many lands,

YOU have 'Terrorized' the people, ruled with an iron hand,

YOU have brought this reign of 'Terror' to MY land !".

The people who write words such as these are the TRUE 'Patriots' of their nations, they are prepared to give their lives in defiance of subjugation and they do so without being 'Ordered To' by their masters. :wink:



Sounds like IRA shit to me :twisted:




bigdog, we are more concerned with the contents of the song than the politics behind them.

The situation that this particular song was referring to, needs no explaining from the likes of I. :wink:
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Postby bigdog » Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:52 pm

Eliko wrote:RichardB, the words are part of a song taken from "the Ballad of Joe McDonell" which you may like to view via 'Google'.

It is sung by 'The Wolfe Tones' and I recommend that you should view it. :wink:


Wolfe Tones :roll:

View it if you are interested in watching a bunch of wankers who glorify terrorism
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Postby Eliko » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:00 pm

bigdog, I interpreted the meaning of the song to be in condemnation of 'Terrorism'. :wink:
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Postby bigdog » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:14 pm

May God shine on you Bobby Sands for the courage you have shown


Do you know his phone number ?


80808080 :D
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Postby RichardB » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:19 pm

The words can be interpreted in a myriad of ways depending on your political views BigDog

For example ..If they had been written by a prominant nationalist then you would probably be posting here now how true they are are to your beliefs that they are condenming the IRA

In my opinion it is the words that are important as much as the reasons

Eliko thanks for the link I will look and absorb tomorrow
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Postby Eliko » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:28 pm

RichardB...................Enjoy !. :wink:
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Postby bigdog » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:35 pm

RichardB wrote:The words can be interpreted in a myriad of ways depending on your political views BigDog

For example ..If they had been written by a prominant nationalist then you would probably be posting here now how true they are are to your beliefs that they are condenming the IRA

In my opinion it is the words that are important as much as the reasons

Eliko thanks for the link I will look and absorb tomorrow


Hi Richard
If you google this band , group or whatever they call themselves you will see that almost every song they preform supports murder and terrorism

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Postby Eliko » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:47 pm

bigdog, disregarding the 'Politics' of the action and looking at the action itself, would you not agree that it would take considerable courage for a man to consciously starve himself to death ?.

Would not such an action emphasize that such a person MUST have great faith in the validity of his cause ?.

Can you think of any circumstance which would commit you to such drastic action ?. :wink:
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Postby RichardB » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:59 pm

bigdog wrote:
RichardB wrote:The words can be interpreted in a myriad of ways depending on your political views BigDog

For example ..If they had been written by a prominant nationalist then you would probably be posting here now how true they are are to your beliefs that they are condenming the IRA

In my opinion it is the words that are important as much as the reasons

Eliko thanks for the link I will look and absorb tomorrow


Hi Richard
If you google this band , group or whatever they call themselves you will see that almost every song they preform supports murder and terrorism

Alan


BigDog as I said to me it is the words that matter not the reason.

I will take a look tomorrow and post my views

I dont know if you have come across an American singer/songwriter called Phil Ochs who was very profilic il the 60s/very early 70s (I think he died in 1974)

He wrote many songs in support of the unions in the USA and was a prominent anti vietnam campaigner.

Well theis man had the CIA, FBI and just about every one on his case so I guess you could call him very anti establishment but if you listen to the lyrics then you could relate them to just about any situation you choose

As a 17/18 year old in the 70s I played in a band and we used the basis of his words for a lot of our songs (I know we would probably be hounded for royalties now) Which were anti government of the day, ( I was in the service of HM the Q at the time so it didnt go down too well)
But we interpreted these words with slight name and place changes to our particular(at the Time) needs

I mention this to reinforce my point that I believe the words are more important than the reason

Well that was a long load of verbals so I'll say goodnight

regards to you

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