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[Eliko]

I am sure there must be a political solution avoiding the need of bloodshed...

Yes there is . Abide by the election results !!

Would those election results you allude to , have been conducted in the same fashion as were those in Iraq ?, where a GANG of warlords have been paid by your 'Mentors' to pave the way for the nation to be also sucked into the abyss of (what we are gulled into believing is) 'Democracy' ?.

OR (if you insist on abiding by election results) WHY is it that 'Hamas' is not recognized as the rightful political party in it's own land ?.

Oh, that is an easy question to answer, Bush, Blair and Olmert did not approve did they ?, sorry, I forgot that bit.

Incidentally, whilst on the subject of Olmert, I do believe the 'Gentleman' is currently embroiled in some kind of 'Legal Process' as a result of dishonesty, perhaps YOU (being such an admirer of whatever he does) could give him a few pointers on how to wriggle out of his dilemma.

One at a time mate, one at a time, no point in upsetting you, you may become abusive.

Sill waiting for a statement from 'Our Learne'd Friend' on THIS issue, perhaps (like the others) he is hoping it will go away.

Good morning miltiades, I hope you are well.

[miltiades]

I am sure there must be a political solution avoiding the need of bloodshed...

Yes there is . Abide by the election results !!

Would those election results you allude to , have been conducted in the same fashion as were those in Iraq ?, where a GANG of warlords have been paid by your 'Mentors' to pave the way for the nation to be also sucked into the abyss of (what we are gulled into believing is) 'Democracy' ?.

OR (if you insist on abiding by election results) WHY is it that 'Hamas' is not recognized as the rightful political party in it's own land ?.

Oh, that is an easy question to answer, Bush, Blair and Olmert did not approve did they ?, sorry, I forgot that bit.

Incidentally, whilst on the subject of Olmert, I do believe the 'Gentleman' is currently embroiled in some kind of 'Legal Process' as a result of dishonesty, perhaps YOU (being such an admirer of whatever he does) could give him a few pointers on how to wriggle out of his dilemma.

One at a time mate, one at a time, no point in upsetting you, you may become abusive.

Sill waiting for a statement from 'Our Learne'd Friend' on THIS issue, perhaps (like the others) he is hoping it will go away.

Good morning miltiades, I hope you are well.

And a very good morning to you Eliko , what statement are you anxiously awaiting for Eliko ? I have already expanded on your "macaronic " ideas . You are absolutely wrong according to : UN , EU , NELSON MANDELA , SOUTH AFRICA , MOST AFRICAN NATIONS , USA , BRITTAIN AND THE REST OF THE WORLD.
So here we have our super hero Eliko taking on the entire world !!
Eliko you are a very lucky man because I like you , I know that sooner or later we are destined to meet , can you suggest something that we may both have , or rather that you would have , a common ground. Let us see , I think I have read somewhere that the world is round , or that the USA is somewhere between Cyprus and the M.East !!!!
I know what , what about the Flintstones which is your favourite character !!!
WRONG WRONG WRONG !!!
ps. You are again wrong in branding me a traitor !!!

[Eliko]

Concerned member, by your own words you have exposed your innermost feelings, you have quite clearly indicated that you are in favour of removing Robert Mugabe from office 'By any Means'. (such is your implication)

Since the 'Means' employed by your 'Mentors' has been the usual underhanded tactics of subterfuge, infiltration, lies (a plenty) and general chicanery at every possible level, coupled with aggressive and forceful measures which culminated in violence and destruction, starvation and deprivation, death and disease, YOU have placed yourself (and YOUR opinions) in a position firmly in support of them and whatever murderous actions they may propose next.

There is little point in trying to 'Wriggle out' of your 'Clear' opinions on this issue, you may now look forward to the further sanctions YOUR 'Heroes' are about to impose on the innocents of Zimbabwe.

For as much as Robert Mugabe may be hated, he has shown himself to be a man who stands by his principles (which in this case means that he is strong in defiance of every hardship and underhanded trick YOUR 'Mentors' have used in an effort to depose him).

If you care to examine those who have recently joined forces against Robert Mugabe, you will no doubt notice that they are ALL of the same ilk, 'Minions of YOUR Mentors'.

In my humble opinion of course.

Events developing around Mugabe with South Africa strongly condemning Mugabe , the UN coming out to strongly condemn this tyrant the only one still supporting and adoring Mugabe is YOU . NO ONE ELSE .
WHAT A BLOODY WASTE OF AN EDUCATION !!!
Your humble opinion is crap , shit , dung , bullshit and more . You are a total nutcase mate , you are clueless of what is going on in the world today , you have lost your marbles Eliko , just go to bed and dont make a fool of your self any more , at least this evening !! Sweet dreams General Mugabe , Idi Amin, Sadam Husein , Bin Laden and Asklani Hotza !!!
And to top it all you think that I'm a traitor !! Shame on you !!!

Whatever YOU may consider MY views to be of YOUR character is of no consequence in the matter under discussion.

What YOU have revealed about YOURSELF is.

Interesting that you should end your comments with the words:- "Shame on you !!!"

Perhaps a little THOUGHT might help you decide where the "Shame" really belongs.

Eliko , have you read anywhere that a single African leader or any leader for that matter has put the blame for the mess in Zimbabwe on the doorstep of the West or on the doorstep of any other country other than exclusively the tyrannical methods of this dictator ?
Apart from you having these "macaronic" , or in your case " aggouria xidata " ideas about Robert Mugabe is there any one else around the globe that shares your ideas. All African leaders have now condemned this brutal dictator and are asking him to go.
You' re mixed up Eliko , just look at your avatar choice mate

America has just announced that it intends to increase the pressure (through it's position in the U.N.) and consider yet more ways to inflict suffering on the people of Zimbabwe.

Surely, if the welfare of the people is of paramount importance (as we are led to believe) the imposition of greater hardships is NOT the way to ease their sufferings.

As to your question regarding the support Robert Mugabe is receiving from other African nations (and elsewhere) it is a moot point since the same sources as report on the situation, only release information which bolsters their own interests.

Naturally there would be very few in the world that would agree with the atrocious sufferings inflicted on the people of Zimbabwe, you may count Eliko among those many millions who are in despair of such 'Sanctions' that have created the problems.

Robert Mugabe is NOT imposing 'Sanctions', his opponents ARE !.

YOU (by your own admissions) are one of those who DO support 'Sanctions' and the aftermath of them which places YOU in the position YOU have indicated conforms to the views YOU (and your 'Mentors') favour.

Murder, death by starvation and lack of medical care, rape, torture, deprivation and a host of other afflictions which are the direct result of such 'Sanctions'

NOT an enviable position to be in miltiades.

In my humble opinion.

[Eliko]

miltiades, the issue I refer to is (as posted severally) your comment RE:- 'Abiding by results'.

I wonder if you would care to respond to my enquiry on THAT subject ?.

[Eliko]

I am sure there must be a political solution avoiding the need of bloodshed...

Yes there is . Abide by the election results !!

Would those election results you allude to , have been conducted in the same fashion as were those in Iraq ?, where a GANG of warlords have been paid by your 'Mentors' to pave the way for the nation to be also sucked into the abyss of (what we are gulled into believing is) 'Democracy' ?.

OR (if you insist on abiding by election results) WHY is it that 'Hamas' is not recognized as the rightful political party in it's own land ?.

Oh, that is an easy question to answer, Bush, Blair and Olmert did not approve did they ?, sorry, I forgot that bit.

Incidentally, whilst on the subject of Olmert, I do believe the 'Gentleman' is currently embroiled in some kind of 'Legal Process' as a result of dishonesty, perhaps YOU (being such an admirer of whatever he does) could give him a few pointers on how to wriggle out of his dilemma.

One at a time mate, one at a time, no point in upsetting you, you may become abusive.

Sill waiting for a statement from 'Our Learne'd Friend' on THIS issue, perhaps (like the others) he is hoping it will go away.

[miltiades]

I am sure there must be a political solution avoiding the need of bloodshed...

Yes there is . Abide by the election results !!

Would those election results you allude to , have been conducted in the same fashion as were those in Iraq ?, where a GANG of warlords have been paid by your 'Mentors' to pave the way for the nation to be also sucked into the abyss of (what we are gulled into believing is) 'Democracy' ?.

OR (if you insist on abiding by election results) WHY is it that 'Hamas' is not recognized as the rightful political party in it's own land ?.

Oh, that is an easy question to answer, Bush, Blair and Olmert did not approve did they ?, sorry, I forgot that bit.

Incidentally, whilst on the subject of Olmert, I do believe the 'Gentleman' is currently embroiled in some kind of 'Legal Process' as a result of dishonesty, perhaps YOU (being such an admirer of whatever he does) could give him a few pointers on how to wriggle out of his dilemma.

One at a time mate, one at a time, no point in upsetting you, you may become abusive.

Sill waiting for a statement from 'Our Learne'd Friend' on THIS issue, perhaps (like the others) he is hoping it will go away.

Eliko , I have decided to not enter onto any debates with you as from now , because its like debating with an 11 year old .! You are desperately embarissingly wrong on perhaps every single International event as well as also wrong on the best means for obtaining a solution to the Cyprus problem.
The whole bloody world is up in arms against Mugabe and here is Brains supporting him !!!
End of the matter !

[Eliko]

miltiades, in other words, you are unable to qualify your statements.

I must say I am not surprised, you DID paint yourself into a corner.

Nonetheless, I wish you and your family well.

Best Wishes,

Eliko.

[Aargent]

I have just joined this forum, but if this is the level of debate that is normal here I shall not be back.

[bill cobbett]

I have just joined this forum, but if this is the level of debate that is normal here I shall not be back.

Come on A. Don't dismiss us like that. Trust me there's a lot to be gained and contributed here. Welcome and come back. Introduce yourself in the general chat section. Here I'll prepare a section for you.

[RichardB]

There you go