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[Eliko]

go fuck yourself Eliko


fucking idiot sending post against other forummembers. you coward disrespeted piece of shit

never send my posts that stupid gooooolies thing u stupid jerk

MOD - Given my new found sensitivity to anything that smells remotely of unbridled free speech I have found this post very upsetting and offensive. It is so bad I need to sit down.

I too bill this kind of posting relly upsets me also

Unwarranted swearing really gets up my goat

GAVCARoCOM's outburst was in retaliation to (what he perceived to be an insult) a stupid distortion of his own word.

I accept that he did not appreciate the humour due the fact that he did not understand it (he does now) and I have apologized to him and he to me.

No harm done, I should have known better, I do now.

[miltiades]

Our champion of the oppressed, upholder of all that is just (or so he would have us believe) has finally revealed the sinister mind that dwells behind his every post !!.

BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, he has indicated that he is in support of mass murder, imposed starvation, persecution of innocent people and young children (babies even), and torture.

He says that he is in support of ANY method employed in the ousting of Robert Mugabe after reading of precisely the 'Political Distortions' which are effectively BEING employed (and likely to escalate) in Zimbabwe.

Since such atrocities ARE being employed by those in opposition to Robert Mugabe (the Ex- Colonial Powers) and since this member is such a fervent supporter of their every murderous move, it is perfectly logical to conclude that he is in total agreement with such devices.

THIS admission from a man who constantly berates any who submit opinions contrary to his own and has severally accused ME of supporting atrocities.

This member has been informed on many occasions that 'The Lord Moves in Mysterious Ways' (or Allah) take your pick.

Let us now see how he will wriggle out of the corner he has painted himself into, ALL his political knowhow will be required to extricate himself from the inference of 'HIS OWN WORDS'

Meanwhile, let us all 'Keep an eye on HIM' (since He likes to keep one on US).

In my humble opinion of course.

I'm now back at home in front of my computer , utterly confounded , stunned beyond endurance , in a daze that such an educated individual could possibly post such absurd rubbish and not a single member on this forum has taken him to task over such ludicrous outrages bullshit .
This is what he says of Mugabe , a man whose resolve and tenacity Eliko admires !! Just look at this nonsense : ""Since such atrocities ARE being employed by those in opposition to Robert Mugabe (the Ex- Colonial Powers) and since this member is such a fervent supporter of their every murderous move, it is perfectly logical to conclude that he is in total agreement wih such devices.""""

This rather well educated individual actually states that those committing atrocities in Zimbabwe are none other than Britain and America !!
The fact that the ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITIES , from the UN to the EU are now threatening , following the withdrawal from the forthcoming "elections" of the opposition leader and subsequently taking refuge at the Dutch Embassy, NOT TO RECOGNISE Zimbabwe , and yet , ( ADMIN GO AHEAD AND BAN ME ) this educated dimwit claims that I SUPPORT :: BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, he has indicated that he is in support of mass murder, imposed starvation, persecution of innocent people and young children (babies even), and torture. """
All I can say is what a bloody waste of an education, you dare accuse me of supporting murder , persecution of children and even babies ??Are so infatuated by the scientist whose avatar you have now taken on that you post such nonsense ?

Mugabe has ruined Zimbabwe . has starved his people , inflation runs at 24000 % pa (government figures give 8000% !! ) has deprived his people of their democratic rights , has used his killing machines to spray havoc , destroy whole villages , and yet this autocratic tyrant splashes out on Crystal Champagne and caviar , as he recently did when in Rome , yet his people are dying of starvation.
Eliko , I have much more reformatory words in my vocabulary than you may think , I'm however exercising restrain against such flagrant displays of incompetent political assessment , but there again you have supported many profane acts in the past .
Good bye and come back when you have grown a brain !!

Just a short summary : You have called me a supporter of mass murder , persecuting young children and babies , A MAN WITH SINISTER IDEAS!!! I take objection to these accusations and view them with total and utter disbelief !

[Eliko]

In order to condense the issues our member has indicated he is about to comment on, I will expose MY views on them.

The Ex-Colonial powers are circulating as much bad publicity as possible in order to discredit Robert Mugabe, so successful have they been in their campaigns against him that he is widely regarded as a monster.

Strangely enough, it is only those who are already allied to the Ex-Colonials that regard him as such and it begs the question WHY ?.

It may be that as a result of being kicked out of power in Zimbabwe, they are seeking to regain control and have devised certain strategies to do so.

One such Strategy may well be to infiltrate the electoral process by installing one of there own selected candidates to oppose Robert Mugabe, the President's remark that 'Britain should mind it's own business', may well be the result of him becoming aware of their intentions and would explain much about his adamant resistance to such infiltrations.

We know for a fact that certain 'Diplomats' have been rounded up and discouraged from supporting the opposition party in Zimbabwe, rightly so, since they are neither candidates nor Zimbabweans and therefore SHOULD 'Mind their own Business.'

We are informed of how the Ex-Colonials are concerned with the welfare of the people of Zimbabwe, so concerned are they that they have done everything in their power to ensure that the people (particularly those who support Robert Mugabe) are now facing deprivation and starvation AND, since even that hasn't achieved the results anticipated, they are now proposing to inflict even more suffering on the people by increasing sanctions AND denying them electricity. (a simple matter of switching off the supply as one Minister puts it, Ex-Colonial of course).

Robert Mugabe has stated quite clearly that he does not want his successor to become a 'Puppet' and has vowed to resist any attempt by the Ex-Colonials to create/install one, he has threatened to use military force if necessary and as leader of his nation, he is entitled to adopt such a stance.

So what is an Ex-Colonial to do ?, 'EASY', stir up civil unrest, show favour to some of the population, ignore the most needy and they will be at each other's throats soon enough, a well tried and tested method used many times in the past.

All fatalities will be attributed to Robert Mugabe, the people will be informed that everything will be fine once they have got rid of their monstrous leader.

Seems like we've heard all this before somewhere.

Actually, the solution to Zimbabwe's problems are very simple, instead of increasing pressure on the people, release it.

Assist the Zimbabweans in agriculture and manufacture, teach them the technologies required to become self sufficient and leave them to develop in the way THEY choose, not as the Ex-Colonials would like them to.

And now to the matter of killings, rapes, starvation and many other atrocities reported to us on an almost daily basis.

They are the SOLE RESPONSIBILITY of those who created the situations which spawned such events, the blame lies on he same doorsteps of those who are in the process of destroying other nations and we should know it.

Support for such actions is tantamount to engaging in them and any who can justify those actions are truly a credit to the politicians that (through the media) have managed to leave them devoid of common sense.

In the case of our particular member, he upholds every atrocity committed by the powers he so admires, he accepts unconditionally whatever lies they may tell him and displays not one iota of doubt about the consequences of their actions.

A sad case of complete brainwashing. In my humble opinion.

[Eliko]

miltiades, sadly you have neglected to voice your opinion on the comparisons I made regarding elections.

You would wish the people of Zimbabwe to abide by the result of the fiasco that took place there.

You support the 'Gangs' installed in Iraq (paid and supported by your 'Mentors') posing as a legitimate Government.

Yet dismiss the elected Government of 'Hamas' merely because it does not suit Bush, Blair and Olmert ?.

A strange combination indeed, I wonder did you READ the comments made on that subject.?

[Eliko]

I am sure there must be a political solution avoiding the need of bloodshed...

Yes there is . Abide by the election results !!

Would those election results you allude to , have been conducted in the same fashion as were those in Iraq ?, where a GANG of warlords have been paid by your 'Mentors' to pave the way for the nation to be also sucked into the abyss of (what we are gulled into believing is) 'Democracy' ?.

OR (if you insist on abiding by election results) WHY is it that 'Hamas' is not recognized as the rightful political party in it's own land ?.

Oh, that is an easy question to answer, Bush, Blair and Olmert did not approve did they ?, sorry, I forgot that bit.

Incidentally, whilst on the subject of Olmert, I do believe the 'Gentleman' is currently embroiled in some kind of 'Legal Process' as a result of dishonesty, perhaps YOU (being such an admirer of whatever he does) could give him a few pointers on how to wriggle out of his dilemma.

One at a time mate, one at a time, no point in upsetting you, you may become abusive.

[Rebel.Without.A.Pause]

Miltiades,

Remember the media in the countries that condemn Mugabe are also the same media that once said EOKA, or even Nelson Mandela, were terrorists.

Moral of the story is, dont believe everything you hear in the media because we really dont know the truth what is going in Zimbabwe.

[miltiades]

In order to condense the issues our member has indicated he is about to comment on, I will expose MY views on them.

The Ex-Colonial powers are circulating as much bad publicity as possible in order to discredit Robert Mugabe, so successful have they been in their campaigns against him that he is widely regarded as a monster.

Strangely enough, it is only those who are already allied to the Ex-Colonials that regard him as such and it begs the question WHY ?.

It may be that as a result of being kicked out of power in Zimbabwe, they are seeking to regain control and have devised certain strategies to do so.

One such Strategy may well be to infiltrate the electoral process by installing one of there own selected candidates to oppose Robert Mugabe, the President's remark that 'Britain should mind it's own business', may well be the result of him becoming aware of their intentions and would explain much about his adamant resistance to such infiltrations.

We know for a fact that certain 'Diplomats' have been rounded up and discouraged from supporting the opposition party in Zimbabwe, rightly so, since they are neither candidates nor Zimbabweans and therefore SHOULD 'Mind their own Business.'

We are informed of how the Ex-Colonials are concerned with the welfare of the people of Zimbabwe, so concerned are they that they have done everything in their power to ensure that the people (particularly those who support Robert Mugabe) are now facing deprivation and starvation AND, since even that hasn't achieved the results anticipated, they are now proposing to inflict even more suffering on the people by increasing sanctions AND denying them electricity. (a simple matter of switching off the supply as one Minister puts it, Ex-Colonial of course).

Robert Mugabe has stated quite clearly that he does not want his successor to become a 'Puppet' and has vowed to resist any attempt by the Ex-Colonials to create/install one, he has threatened to use military force if necessary and as leader of his nation, he is entitled to adopt such a stance.

So what is an Ex-Colonial to do ?, 'EASY', stir up civil unrest, show favour to some of the population, ignore the most needy and they will be at each other's throats soon enough, a well tried and tested method used many times in the past.

All fatalities will be attributed to Robert Mugabe, the people will be informed that everything will be fine once they have got rid of their monstrous leader.

Seems like we've heard all this before somewhere.

Actually, the solution to Zimbabwe's problems are very simple, instead of increasing pressure on the people, release it.

Assist the Zimbabweans in agriculture and manufacture, teach them the technologies required to become self sufficient and leave them to develop in the way THEY choose, not as the Ex-Colonials would like them to.

And now to the matter of killings, rapes, starvation and many other atrocities reported to us on an almost daily basis.

They are the SOLE RESPONSIBILITY of those who created the situations which spawned such events, the blame lies on he same doorsteps of those who are in the process of destroying other nations and we should know it.

Support for such actions is tantamount to engaging in them and any who can justify those actions are truly a credit to the politicians that (through the media) have managed to leave them devoid of common sense.

In the case of our particular member, he upholds every atrocity committed by the powers he so admires, he accepts unconditionally whatever lies they may tell him and displays not one iota of doubt about the consequences of their actions.

A sad case of complete brainwashing. In my humble opinion.

Kid , I know what you are up to , post as much crap as possible get Miltiades going and bingo he is banned .No Sir , you are talking absolute garbage , where on earth do you get your perverted views on Mugabe I will never know. You know as much about Zimbabwe and for that matter other International events as my 4 year old granddaughter . Never in my life have I ever encountered such nonsense as the ones you have posted. The ENTIRE world is up in arms over the disgusting and bloodthirsty fashion that this tyrant is contacting himself , and you , an educated misfit finds accolades for this brutal murderer.I understand that you have to direct your immense hatred of the West at someone well this someone thinks your full of stars and stripes if you know what I mean.
May I SAY THAT I FIND YOUR VIEWS ON THIS ISSUE DEPLORABLE AND CONTRARY TO HUMAN DECENCY .
Check out what the Eurpean Humanitarian agencies are saying about this dreadful man before posting such despicable nonsense.
I rest my case but here is what the opposition are saying. "HARARE, Zimbabwe (CNN) -- Zimbabwe opposition candidate Morgan Tsvangirai said Sunday he would not participate in Friday's presidential runoff, provoking dismay from international observers and handing an apparent victory to President Robert Mugabe.


Robert Mugabe has said that voting for the opposition MDC next week will be like "going back to colonialism"

1 of 2 Tsvangirai said his Movement for Democratic Change party decided to pull out of the vote because of violence and arrests targeting his party and its supporters.

"A free and fair election is impossible," Tsvangirai told reporters Sunday. "We in the MDC have resolved that we will no longer participate in this violent, illegitimate ... sham of an election process."

[miltiades]

Miltiades,

Remember the media in the countries that condemn Mugabe are also the same media that once said EOKA, or even Nelson Mandela, were terrorists.

Moral of the story is, dont believe everything you hear in the media because we really dont know the truth what is going in Zimbabwe.

Neither Britain nor America are ruling Zimbabwe and neither has anything to gain by not supporting Mugabe .No comparison what so ever with EOKA or Nelson Mandela. Mugabe is a tyrant , a ruthless dictator with an insatiable appetite for corrupt power. He has ruined Zimbabwe and has made the life of his people hell . No one can stand by and watch this man totaly destroy this nation. He is a menace not only to his country but to all of Africa and the sooner he goes the better for the people of Zimbabwe.

[Eliko]

miltiades, you have hit the nail right on the head (unwittingly I'm sure) when you quoted Robert Mugabe as saying :-

"Voting for the MDC will be like going back to Colonialism !"

Absolutely miltiades, that is precisely the problem (explained fully in my post if you took the trouble to READ it)

[Rebel.Without.A.Pause]

Neither Britain nor America are ruling Zimbabwe and neither has anything to gain by not supporting Mugabe .No comparison what so ever with EOKA or Nelson Mandela. Mugabe is a tyrant , a ruthless dictator with an insatiable appetite for corrupt power.

How can you say 'no comparison' - Zimbabwe was a British colony. Do you think, even after it had gained its independance, that Britain would act like a friend?? The white farm owners in Zimbabwe received their land in exactly the sameway the Ottoman Turks received their land when they arrived in Cyprus - by stealing it. Its all colonialism and all relevant.

Mugabe may well be a tyrant and a corrupt dictator but PLEASE dont tell me you think you know this for certain just because you read the western media.

He has ruined Zimbabwe and has made the life of his people hell . No one can stand by and watch this man totaly destroy this nation. He is a menace not only to his country but to all of Africa and the sooner he goes the better for the people of Zimbabwe.

Again you dont know this for certain - have you spoken to Mugabe's followers? I dont think so. There are two sides to every story like we see in this forum right here with regards to Cyprus.

...and how can you talk for the whole of Africa?? How is he a menace to Africa. Have you spoken to African people or researched the views of their leaders?? The BIGGER and BIGGEST menace to Africa has been colonialism and I can almost guarantee any African in their right mind will tell you that.