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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:56 pm

Bill wrote:
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Can you please tell me Jerry if I should use Chlorination for my back yard pool or should I use salt?



Why not ask oracle after all she is the font of all knowledge. :roll:

The constant degrading of posts that start off as absolutely nothing to do with the Cyprus problem and turning them into Turk hating propaganda is unnecessary and is oracles main failing .

Her recent vicious attack on Connors post was disgusting and getting very personal with her outrageous claims ~ not the sort of response I would expect from a supposed intelligent woman.

Her apparent hatred of anything British even though enjoying a ( so we are told ) excellent and obviously well paid job and claiming "the British love me for what I have done for them" is quite honestly unbelievable

Personally I think she is playing you all for fools

GR I have no problems with except his apparent solution to the Cyprus problem and find a lot of his posts very interesting BUT it's painfully obvious that he has been encouraged / egged on to a even more militant stance than usual by our lovely oracle .

To be honest she is a nasty piece of work that has spent the last 40 plus years enjoying the safety of the UK whilst you were suffering the indignities of the Turkish invasion ~ now she comes back here to defend Cyprus :roll: ~ read her posts ~ it's not hard to do the maths and figure out where she was during the troubles .

She has in effect got most of you spell bound with her apparent recent patriotism ~ I haven't heard her say how she had to dodge the bombs whilst fleeing for her life from say Famagusta like others I know had to ~ it's pretty safe watching it on TV in the UK.

Now you all are talking about the terrible two being banned ~ as far as I've read Admin have suspended GR for a "few days" and oracle for two weeks to let them cool down .

As for this forum ~ I believe it was a Cyprus forum that dealt with all the aspects of Cyprus life and not exclusively for the Cyprus problem although sadly it has crept into even the most innocent threads .

I enjoyed the mixture of both the political aspect and the various other parts of the forum but I'm afraid that many prospective forum members have been put off joining due to the apparent single mindedness of the political aspect being discussed in every thread

I'm surprised Admin waited so long as some of the comments have been well over the top ~ in fact I'm quite suspicious that oracle tiring of the forum has engineered her departure in the most spectacular fashion ~ thus leaving her followers aghast at their apparent loss ~ clever woman with out a doubt.

Bill


I wish to take you to task at your insinuation that she is a Turk hating woman. Her language, whilst strong, is purely an expression of her opposition to 37% of her country being occupied by a foreign aggressor. Oracle and all Cypriots have the right to be pissed off with this and express their views as desired. Free speech and democracy is paramount.

Her views against Connor were posed as they seemed to sabotage efforts for justice by our President X. Connors seemed to target our President in a most malicious manner at a time when he had more pressing issues to deal with, such as address the return of 200,000 GC refugees to their homes. Perhaps Connor should have aired his claims by seeking legal avenues and to not distract our President from these more serious issues.

Her opposition to the British Governemnts, who have orchestrated the islands demise from 1955 is evident. This opposition does not apply to the British people, in my opinion. Oracle does however defend herself vigorously against those that provoke her and take great pleasure in provoking her as they would inevitably have to endure her reaction. These individuals, such as yourself are nothing more than attention seeking, something that underlines your apparent infatuation of her by seeking to cause her harm. Happily, I take comfort that you are not strong enough to cause Oracle any despair in any exchange, so the only thing that you have left is to rely on Admin suspending her. This say's more about your lack of character and conviction, and your lack of credibility by investing in the illegal "trnc". Shame on you.

On the contrary, it is the silencing of both GR and Oracle which will result in less members signing up to the CF, as they are both 2 of the most interesting contributors to the forum.

PS. I had to post my reply in a new thread due to the closure of the other thread.
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:01 pm

May I also ask that members refrain from posting character damaging posts to those that are not able to defend themselves. Thanks.

It is not my job to defend Oracle or Gr. So I ask that members respect the above and await for their return so that they may personally counter these character attacks.
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Re: Answer to Bill

Postby Jerry » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:35 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Bill wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Can you please tell me Jerry if I should use Chlorination for my back yard pool or should I use salt?



Why not ask oracle after all she is the font of all knowledge. :roll:

The constant degrading of posts that start off as absolutely nothing to do with the Cyprus problem and turning them into Turk hating propaganda is unnecessary and is oracles main failing .

Her recent vicious attack on Connors post was disgusting and getting very personal with her outrageous claims ~ not the sort of response I would expect from a supposed intelligent woman.

Her apparent hatred of anything British even though enjoying a ( so we are told ) excellent and obviously well paid job and claiming "the British love me for what I have done for them" is quite honestly unbelievable

Personally I think she is playing you all for fools

GR I have no problems with except his apparent solution to the Cyprus problem and find a lot of his posts very interesting BUT it's painfully obvious that he has been encouraged / egged on to a even more militant stance than usual by our lovely oracle .

To be honest she is a nasty piece of work that has spent the last 40 plus years enjoying the safety of the UK whilst you were suffering the indignities of the Turkish invasion ~ now she comes back here to defend Cyprus :roll: ~ read her posts ~ it's not hard to do the maths and figure out where she was during the troubles .

She has in effect got most of you spell bound with her apparent recent patriotism ~ I haven't heard her say how she had to dodge the bombs whilst fleeing for her life from say Famagusta like others I know had to ~ it's pretty safe watching it on TV in the UK.

Now you all are talking about the terrible two being banned ~ as far as I've read Admin have suspended GR for a "few days" and oracle for two weeks to let them cool down .

As for this forum ~ I believe it was a Cyprus forum that dealt with all the aspects of Cyprus life and not exclusively for the Cyprus problem although sadly it has crept into even the most innocent threads .

I enjoyed the mixture of both the political aspect and the various other parts of the forum but I'm afraid that many prospective forum members have been put off joining due to the apparent single mindedness of the political aspect being discussed in every thread

I'm surprised Admin waited so long as some of the comments have been well over the top ~ in fact I'm quite suspicious that oracle tiring of the forum has engineered her departure in the most spectacular fashion ~ thus leaving her followers aghast at their apparent loss ~ clever woman with out a doubt.

Bill


I wish to take you to task at your insinuation that she is a Turk hating woman. Her language, whilst strong, is purely an expression of her opposition to 37% of her country being occupied by a foreign aggressor. Oracle and all Cypriots have the right to be pissed off with this and express their views as desired. Free speech and democracy is paramount.

Her views against Connor were posed as they seemed to sabotage efforts for justice by our President X. Connors seemed to target our President in a most malicious manner at a time when he had more pressing issues to deal with, such as address the return of 200,000 GC refugees to their homes. Perhaps Connor should have aired his claims by seeking legal avenues and to not distract our President from these more serious issues.

Her opposition to the British Governemnts, who have orchestrated the islands demise from 1955 is evident. This opposition does not apply to the British people, in my opinion. Oracle does however defend herself vigorously against those that provoke her and take great pleasure in provoking her as they would inevitably have to endure her reaction. These individuals, such as yourself are nothing more than attention seeking, something that underlines your apparent infatuation of her by seeking to cause her harm. Happily, I take comfort that you are not strong enough to cause Oracle any despair in any exchange, so the only thing that you have left is to rely on Admin suspending her. This say's more about your lack of character and conviction, and your lack of credibility by investing in the illegal "trnc". Shame on you.

On the contrary, it is the silencing of both GR and Oracle which will result in less members signing up to the CF, as they are both 2 of the most interesting contributors to the forum.

PS. I had to post my reply in a new thread due to the closure of the other thread.


Paphitis if I had the time and inclination I would disprove most of you "defence" of Oracle, quite frankly I can't be bothered. You have made a completely erroneous assumption about Bill that suggests you are not to be taken seriously on this forum.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:36 pm

For now -

Subjected to self-imposed censorship.

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Postby Eliko » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:May I also ask that members refrain from posting character damaging posts to those that are not able to defend themselves. Thanks.

It is not my job to defend Oracle or Gr. So I ask that members respect the above and await for their return so that they may personally counter these character attacks.



Paphitis, may I also add weight to your request ?, I did mention this precise point in a response I made to miltiades earlier, since I did suffer some verbal attacks (in my absence) some time ago the result of which led to another member (who defended me) leaving the forum in disgust.

Such attacks are cowardly and unacceptable.

In my humble opinion. :wink:
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:46 pm

Eliko wrote:
Paphitis wrote:May I also ask that members refrain from posting character damaging posts to those that are not able to defend themselves. Thanks.

It is not my job to defend Oracle or Gr. So I ask that members respect the above and await for their return so that they may personally counter these character attacks.



Paphitis, may I also add weight to your request ?, I did mention this precise point in a response I made to miltiades earlier, since I did suffer some verbal attacks (in my absence) some time ago the result of which led to another member (who defended me) leaving the forum in disgust.

Such attacks are cowardly and unacceptable.

In my humble opinion. :wink:


That is most sad news dear Eliko. May I ask which member has left the forum in disgust? :cry:

May I say that this forumer is yet another victim of censorship and the arrogance of Miltiades.

A very sad day for free speech and the CF. :cry:
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Postby Niki » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:49 pm

In my humble opinion, and after all all posts are simply opinions, people are taking this too seriously. It is a forum! Just a forum, not a serious political arena.

People come and go and things move on so wait for O and GR to end their suspension or never deign to step keyboard in the forum again and lets all move on! :roll:
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Postby RichardB » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:53 pm

Niki wrote:In my humble opinion, and after all all posts are simply opinions, people are taking this too seriously. It is a forum! Just a forum, not a serious political arena.

People come and go and things move on so wait for O and GR to end their suspension or never deign to step keyboard in the forum again and lets all move on! :roll:


The thing is niki its not just about GR and O its about the right to post your opinions whether or not they are concieved as right or wrong by others.
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Postby Jerry » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:56 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Eliko wrote:
Paphitis wrote:May I also ask that members refrain from posting character damaging posts to those that are not able to defend themselves. Thanks.

It is not my job to defend Oracle or Gr. So I ask that members respect the above and await for their return so that they may personally counter these character attacks.



Paphitis, may I also add weight to your request ?, I did mention this precise point in a response I made to miltiades earlier, since I did suffer some verbal attacks (in my absence) some time ago the result of which led to another member (who defended me) leaving the forum in disgust.

Such attacks are cowardly and unacceptable.

In my humble opinion. :wink:


That is most sad news dear Eliko. May I ask which member has left the forum in disgust? :cry:

May I say that this forumer is yet another victim of censorship and the arrogance of Miltiades.

A very sad day for free speech and the CF. :cry:


You may be right, but some would argue that free speech includes the right to critisize another who has been banned, or, as it appears in this case, requested that all her posts be deleted from the forum. Sounds like Bill was right.
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Postby Jerry » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:59 pm

RichardB wrote:
Niki wrote:In my humble opinion, and after all all posts are simply opinions, people are taking this too seriously. It is a forum! Just a forum, not a serious political arena.

People come and go and things move on so wait for O and GR to end their suspension or never deign to step keyboard in the forum again and lets all move on! :roll:


The thing is niki its not just about GR and O its about the right to post your opinions whether or not they are concieved as right or wrong by others.


No Richard, I disagree. It's about HOW you express your opinion and how you respect others by not personally abusing them.
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