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[Piratis]

Good gracious - he's put on a bit of weight then!!!!!

Yes that too. Shocking video so far. This guy has got a big heart for making this. I bet he got more death threats, than the Ref in the last Polish game @euro 2k8.

If he was a Turk he wouldn't just get death threats. He would be dead already. Remember Hrant Dink and the 1000s of other people that were murdered or send to jail in Turkey for daring to mention the crimes that Turks committed?

Not a clue what your talking about, sorry.You got a linky I can look at?

So you have no clue about the murder of Hrant Dink that was all over the news and you want a link for it, but still you knew all about the movie of somebody totally unknown out of Cyprus and you managed to find it without any link given to you?

What you said you are? Spanish?

No I hadn't. But i had a look now( no thanks to you, ive also lost my connection to ITV formula 1 qualifying coverage, as my Firefox looses its mind if I google when watching! Which is why I asked you for a link) & the guy you mentioned was assassinated by another guy. Which ofcourse is deplorable, but in no means grounds for condemning a whole country.As his views were about Armenia & the genocide, what has this got to do with the above? I remember when that Jewish fella shot the Israeli president! Does that mean that all Israelis are President hating murderers?
I knew about the Video because I came across its part 2 yesterday & when I read it in the OP's post I decided to watch it.(Before you accuse me of lying its on pause about 3/4 of the way through, while I watch Lewis make a mess of qualifying.)

I'm Spanish my mother is Castilian, my dad Catalan.His parents are both Catalans & my grandfather on my mothers side was from Galicia, grandmother Castillian. That makes me Spanish.Both my Parents live in Nicosia, among other country's, including Dubai, England & obviously Spain, (Toledo, Salamanca, Noia & Figueres.) I don't give flying rats fuck, if you believe me or not, it's what I am.

Instead of trying to change the subject how about you provide a link to 1000's of deaths you talk about.Or don't , I couldn't give a shit anymore.

Tip to admin: a "wanker" smiley would be a good addition to this forum.

So a Spanish with a pro-Turkish agenda ah? OK ..

The same way you did a search for Hrant Dink make a search for political prisoners, assassinations and the article 301.

Here is one example to get you started:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/nov/17/gender.uk

[CanDiaz]

So a Spanish with a pro-Turkish agenda ah? OK ..

Mary mother of God!

A Spaniard from Toledo with a pro-Turkish(hence anti Greek)agenda?

1 name for you, maybe you will start to understand me a little better.( & then hopefully never speak to me again)

Doménicos Theotokópoulos.

[Piratis]

Good gracious - he's put on a bit of weight then!!!!!

Yes that too. Shocking video so far. This guy has got a big heart for making this. I bet he got more death threats, than the Ref in the last Polish game @euro 2k8.

If he was a Turk he wouldn't just get death threats. He would be dead already. Remember Hrant Dink and the 1000s of other people that were murdered or send to jail in Turkey for daring to mention the crimes that Turks committed?

Not a clue what your talking about, sorry.You got a linky I can look at?

Here is a link that you requested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrant_Dink

The more you post, the more I am beginning to think that you are not Spanish but a Turk masquerading as a Spaniard.

For now I will give you the benefit of doubt.

Dont bother, I couldn't care less.

Why is that then, because i wont swallow your " 1/4 of the population, significantly less armed than us created ALL the problems on Cyprus" nonsense & instead I go looking for answer's myself. Primarily because my parents have spent the best part of 2 million Euros on a house, in a country full of racist fantasiser's?

You stick your "benefit of the doubt" up your coit.

Mate, the conflicts were started by the Turks as a whole. Turks are 70 million, VS the less than a million Cypriots. Yet in the conflict between Cyprus and Turkey you "swallow" the Turkish propaganda that it is Cyprus fault.

It is the Turks who kept invading our island, we never ventured out of our island to harm anybody.

If Turks were not the aggressors then there wouldn't be any Turks in Cyprus to begin with. But even if later the Turks had accepted that their minority in Cyprus would be just like every other minority in the whole world then problems would be solved. However Turkey continues to use their minority on our island as an excuse to occupy the north part of our country.

[Paphitis]

Good gracious - he's put on a bit of weight then!!!!!

Yes that too. Shocking video so far. This guy has got a big heart for making this. I bet he got more death threats, than the Ref in the last Polish game @euro 2k8.

If he was a Turk he wouldn't just get death threats. He would be dead already. Remember Hrant Dink and the 1000s of other people that were murdered or send to jail in Turkey for daring to mention the crimes that Turks committed?

Not a clue what your talking about, sorry.You got a linky I can look at?

Here is a link that you requested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrant_Dink

The more you post, the more I am beginning to think that you are not Spanish but a Turk masquerading as a Spaniard.

For now I will give you the benefit of doubt.

Dont bother, I couldn't care less.

Why is that then, because i wont swallow your " 1/4 of the population, significantly less armed than us created ALL the problems on Cyprus" nonsense & instead I go looking for answer's myself. Primarily because my parents have spent the best part of 2 million Euros on a house, in a country full of racist fantasiser's?

You stick your "benefit of the doubt" up your coit.

So you are Spanish. But you appear to have swallowed a fair bit of the Turkish propoganda.

I strongly do urge and encourage you to do some more research not because we want to convince you but because the grim facts are very simple.

Turkey has invaded our island and has continued to occupy our island for the last 34 years. It has ethnically cleansed the occupied areas and changed it's demographics.

The Greek Cypriots are no threat to the TCs or Turkey. Sure, some mistakes were made in the past which has caused some suffering to both communities but there was absolutely no genocide. There have only been a few hundred TC victims since the late 50s whereas the GC casualties number around 10,000.

The continued occupation of Cyprus is condemned by all nations, including Spain and the UN.

Very simple outline, but I encourage you to venture out and piece together a bit more of the puzzle. If you live in Cyprus, I also urge you to visit the "trnc" and take a tour of our Greek Churches, Cemeteries and Monasteries. What you will see will most certainly shock you.

[Viewpoint]

CanDiaz dont take Piratis to seriously hes someone who thinks we are responsible for what the Ottamans did 500 years ago yet does not acknowledge his own wrong doing of only 40 years, he belittle our suffering and mistreatment at the hands of ruthless GCs and elevates his own suffering which Turkey stepped in to bring a balance to this island, the fact that we have been unable to resolve our problems is not one sided and GCs shoudl realize that TCs are partners and not just another minority for them to sweep under the carpet, like they did in the past.

[Paphitis]

CanDiaz dont take Piratis to seriously hes someone who thinks we are responsible for what the Ottamans did 500 years ago yet does not acknowledge his own wrong doing of only 40 years, he belittle our suffering and mistreatment at the hands of ruthless GCs and elevates his own suffering which Turkey stepped in to bring a balance to this island, the fact that we have been unable to resolve our problems is not one sided and GCs shoudl realize that TCs are partners and not just another minority for them to sweep under the carpet, like they did in the past.

You stepped in when coerced by the British during the 1955-1959 independence movement. Cypriots revolted against the British for self determination, and we had every right to do so. The TCs sided with the British and received unfair rewards under the 1959 Zurich Agreements, which later caused the constitutional crisis in 1963. You once again desire to negotiate an even more unfair settlement in the current peace talks which would lead to more of the same. The Turkish plans for partition were first penned in 1958 with the formation of the infamous TMT which terrorised Greek Cypriots. This inevitably led to EOKA reacting to your recalcitrance, purely for the fact that you aligned your selves with the British oppressors. EOKA was not formed to target the TCs, but it is the TCs that made themselves a target.

[Piratis]

CanDiaz dont take Piratis to seriously hes someone who thinks we are responsible for what the Ottamans did 500 years ago yet does not acknowledge his own wrong doing of only 40 years, he belittle our suffering and mistreatment at the hands of ruthless GCs and elevates his own suffering which Turkey stepped in to bring a balance to this island, the fact that we have been unable to resolve our problems is not one sided and GCs shoudl realize that TCs are partners and not just another minority for them to sweep under the carpet, like they did in the past.

VP, 500 years ago there were no Turks in Cyprus. Your crimes against us started 437 years ago and they continue until TODAY.

If it was just one event 500 years ago then nobody would have a problem today. The problem is that you have not changed since then, and you continue to try to impose your rule by force over Cyprus.

And of course I acknowledge our wrong doings 40 years ago. When did I claim the opposite? But do you acknowledge your own wrong doings during the exact same period, do you acknowledge your wrong doings before that period, and do you acknowledge your wrong doings after that period that continue until today?

You ignore the 99.5% of the events, even the crimes you commit as we speak, and you exaggerate your comparatively way less suffering of the past looking for excuses to commit yet more crimes against us today and in the future.

The TCs ARE just another minority like every other minority in the world, but Turkey is trying to use them in order to keep our island under their control. I tell you what, give to the Greek minority that lives in Turkey 1/3rd of Turkey and make them "partners" in running Turkey, and then come to ask the same for your minority in Cyprus.

[soyer]

Here is not just a copy of a document signed by some nick name, but actual video (British made):

Look at the end of it about how the Turkish Foreign minister talks about partition.

And if you want a document you can get the one made by the Turkish Cypriot leader Fazil Kucuk "The Cyprus Question: A Permanent Solution" written in 1957 where he talks about the partition of Cyprus at the 35° parallel.

You are living in denial, or you are intentionally trying to lie, if you do not accept the fact that Turkey and TCs had partition as their aim since the 50s, something that involved the annihilation of Greek Cypriots from half of their island.

Talks about the partition one thing politicians always do. You must be very young not to remember, beginning of Cyprus problem start when Greek Cypriots call for ENOSIS to join they motherland by ignoreing Turkish Cypriots also had motherland result of this answer to ENOSIS was TAKSIM mean partition nothing like "plan to annihilate all Greek" believe me if it was no call for ENOSIS outside powers had no chance to interfere, we never see 1963 or 1974 and thousands of CYPRIOTS lifes never to be wasted.






My blame towards whole of those who demand ENOSIS pri-1955

[CanDiaz]

If you also missed the Qualification for the French Grand Prix, you can watch it now on ITV/catchup.If you need a UK proxy PM me.But do it quick, I'm off home in 10 mins.

@ the Aussie bloke, sorry about the up your coit, thing but I'm rather fond of Aussies & what you said rubbed me the wrong way.

[Paphitis]

If you also missed the Qualification for the French Grand Prix, you can watch it now on ITV/catchup.If you need a UK proxy PM me.But do it quick, I'm off home in 10 mins.

@ the Aussie bloke, sorry about the up your coit, thing but I'm rather fond of Aussies & what you said rubbed me the wrong way.

No need for apologies. I can take criticism like "water of a duck's back".

Just remember that we are not trying to convince you one way or the other. The truth is out there and you should seek it. When you have done so, I have no doubt that you will then understand who the real aggressor is in Cyprus and who the real victims are.

Have a nice day Cobber.